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thror
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posted March 10, 2014 08:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for thror Send a private message to thror Click to send thror an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by daner:
I'd love to see proof of this order going through....bc I've been denied the purchase of more than 4x of a card from their website before.

ask lemon? anyone that was in the IRC chat at the time knows of it.

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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
I'd love to see proof of this order going through....bc I've been denied the purchase of more than 4x of a card from their website before.

from starcity? how long ago? 4+ yrs ago? yeah, they've done that in the past.. eons ago, every site has.. in the last 4 yrs? no chance.. proof of them denying purchase, or email stating they're not gonna ship beyond 4x or whatever.. otherwise, i call bull****

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daner
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posted March 11, 2014 12:32 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by coolio:
from starcity? how long ago? 4+ yrs ago? yeah, they've done that in the past.. eons ago, every site has.. in the last 4 yrs? no chance.. proof of them denying purchase, or email stating they're not gonna ship beyond 4x or whatever.. otherwise, i call bull****

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Longer than 4 years. To be exact, it was during Time Spiral Block.

Not only was I denied, but also a friend of mine who at the time was a premium article writer(well featured, they didn't charge back then I believe).

We made a broken Wild Pair deck, which I believe said friend even wrote an article about it after we both tried to win some massive online event. I finished 9th on breakers losing in the last round to the only deck either of us lost to that day.....I was X-2, my firend was X-3 losing in top 8 to Slivers...which handed us our 5 combined losses.

We tried to buy out Wild Pair, Radha(sp) and New Akroma.....they stopped us at 4.


Call bs all you want, this happened back in 2007. If you want me to go dig I might, MIGHT, be able to find the email. But if you say they have changed their ways since then, then you are probably right, after that I've never bought from them again. I've also been denied from Gamingetc, and ChannelFireball. All the more reason why I stopped trying to buy from these websites years ago and strickly buy from people I trust on MOTL or my local LGS who does hook me up.

 
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posted March 11, 2014 06:34 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
I think the most awkward part about the whole SCG thing, at least around here is that every store uses it for prices. They do that, but some don't like... grade the cards. So often times people just buy MP copies of a card for the NM price, and it's actually a higher price than SCG.


At that point, save the gas (shop is like 20-30 miles from the city), and spend the shipping. I don't know how they get away with it.

 
Majin Sigma
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posted March 11, 2014 06:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Majin Sigma Send a private message to Majin Sigma Click to send Majin Sigma an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Are the prices at SCG high? Yes. Is their customer satisfaction high? Yes. They always deliver, in a very timely manner. I made a purchase on TCG on 2-25-14, I have yet to receive it. It took the seller 4 days to get back to me. They are now offering a full refund or re-sending my order with a $20 credit. While this is generous, if it was SCG, I would have had the cards on March 2nd. Theres no real reason to hate them. Everyone tries to get every dollar they can out of every card they sell.
 
mcelraca
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posted March 11, 2014 07:09 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mcelraca Click Here to Email mcelraca Send a private message to mcelraca Click to send mcelraca an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I was just sitting here thinking about SCG and the market in general. I feel most people dislike SCG because they seem to have monopolized the secondary market.

I don't believe this is true, but I think that's where all of the hate comes from.

When I have purchased from them, I've been very satisifed and their customer service is very good. I also frequent ABU games which has always been good to me as well.

 
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posted March 11, 2014 07:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
I think the most awkward part about the whole SCG thing, at least around here is that every store uses it for prices. They do that, but some don't like... grade the cards. So often times people just buy MP copies of a card for the NM price, and it's actually a higher price than SCG.


At that point, save the gas (shop is like 20-30 miles from the city), and spend the shipping. I don't know how they get away with it.


Generally when a store tries to hit me with SCG prices I either ask when they got acquired or I sell them things on SCG's buylist they are overpaying for.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Generally when a store tries to hit me with SCG prices I either ask when they got acquired or I sell them things on SCG's buylist they are overpaying for.

Yeah these guys only take trades in at buylist. Otherwise I wouldn't have any Griselbrands left.

 
WeedIan
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Longer than 4 years. To be exact, it was during Time Spiral Block.

Not only was I denied, but also a friend of mine who at the time was a premium article writer(well featured, they didn't charge back then I believe).

We made a broken Wild Pair deck, which I believe said friend even wrote an article about it after we both tried to win some massive online event. I finished 9th on breakers losing in the last round to the only deck either of us lost to that day.....I was X-2, my firend was X-3 losing in top 8 to Slivers...which handed us our 5 combined losses.

We tried to buy out Wild Pair, Radha(sp) and New Akroma.....they stopped us at 4.


Call bs all you want, this happened back in 2007. If you want me to go dig I might, MIGHT, be able to find the email. But if you say they have changed their ways since then, then you are probably right, after that I've never bought from them again. I've also been denied from Gamingetc, and ChannelFireball. All the more reason why I stopped trying to buy from these websites years ago and strickly buy from people I trust on MOTL or my local LGS who does hook me up.


That's nearly 7 years ago and the business has changed quite a bit since then.

I understand your stance though I'd take a similar one.

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malzra
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posted March 19, 2014 05:44 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for malzra Click Here to Email malzra Send a private message to malzra Click to send malzra an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
SCG doesn't cancel sales like that, as far as I know. Pretty much all the other stores do.


Ideal808 is really good about not canceling and is good about shipping. They always get my stuff from Hawaii to Florida in 6-7 days. One guy in Italy got his stuff in like 7 days. Also their grading is spot on. I'm a hard grader and I'm always happy with their grading.

On topic: SCG is good on those occasions that something is spiking or is about to spike as they don't always quickly adjust their sales prices. I've picked up several cards from them that were in the process of spiking or were about to in the following 12 hours at good prices and they didn't cancel on me.

 
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posted March 20, 2014 04:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Soldier Boi Click Here to Email Soldier Boi Send a private message to Soldier Boi Click to send Soldier Boi an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I have bought a few cards from SCG before a spike and they always delivered.
 
mcelraca
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posted March 20, 2014 09:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mcelraca Click Here to Email mcelraca Send a private message to mcelraca Click to send mcelraca an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Longer than 4 years. To be exact, it was during Time Spiral Block.

Not only was I denied, but also a friend of mine who at the time was a premium article writer(well featured, they didn't charge back then I believe).

We made a broken Wild Pair deck, which I believe said friend even wrote an article about it after we both tried to win some massive online event. I finished 9th on breakers losing in the last round to the only deck either of us lost to that day.....I was X-2, my firend was X-3 losing in top 8 to Slivers...which handed us our 5 combined losses.

We tried to buy out Wild Pair, Radha(sp) and New Akroma.....they stopped us at 4.


Call bs all you want, this happened back in 2007. If you want me to go dig I might, MIGHT, be able to find the email. But if you say they have changed their ways since then, then you are probably right, after that I've never bought from them again. I've also been denied from Gamingetc, and ChannelFireball. All the more reason why I stopped trying to buy from these websites years ago and strickly buy from people I trust on MOTL or my local LGS who does hook me up.


Not trying to convince you otherwise, everyone should shop where they want


BUT, I am confused why them limiting you to 4 each is a problem. I understand that it's a problem for you, but if we're discussing good business practice... I'm happy they limited you to four, there were more for me and my friends to buy ;-). And, I think SCG was probably happy they made 4 new customers and only lost 2. Further, it sounds like you were trying to turn a profit. If that's your goal then stop whining and acting like you're entitled to something.

Like you, I vote with my dollar, if I don't like how a store does business; I won't purchase anything at their store.

Keeping that in mind I try to take into account everyone's interests not simply my own when evaluating businesses.



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posted March 20, 2014 10:43 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JesusChristMD Click Here to Email JesusChristMD Send a private message to JesusChristMD Click to send JesusChristMD an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Majin Sigma:
Are the prices at SCG high? Yes. Is their customer satisfaction high? Yes. They always deliver, in a very timely manner. I made a purchase on TCG on 2-25-14, I have yet to receive it. It took the seller 4 days to get back to me. They are now offering a full refund or re-sending my order with a $20 credit. While this is generous, if it was SCG, I would have had the cards on March 2nd. Theres no real reason to hate them. Everyone tries to get every dollar they can out of every card they sell.


20$ seems like a very fair compromise as there was clearly something going on in the seller's life.

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daner
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posted March 20, 2014 01:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mcelraca:
Not trying to convince you otherwise, everyone should shop where they want


BUT, I am confused why them limiting you to 4 each is a problem. I understand that it's a problem for you, but if we're discussing good business practice... I'm happy they limited you to four, there were more for me and my friends to buy ;-). And, I think SCG was probably happy they made 4 new customers and only lost 2. Further, it sounds like you were trying to turn a profit. If that's your goal then stop whining and acting like you're entitled to something.

Like you, I vote with my dollar, if I don't like how a store does business; I won't purchase anything at their store.

Keeping that in mind I try to take into account everyone's interests not simply my own when evaluating businesses.


It's a LOT more to it than just that though....my friend and I tried to buy them out, but he was in the process of writing an article about the deck for Time Spiral Block constructed. My friend was an actual writer/contributor to the site....we basically gave them free information, and then they denied us from buying the cards in the amount we wanted.

Where we trying to turn a profit? Yes. Still the point is we could have EASLIY tried to buy the cards pre-article submission. The fact that on top of them denying us they also knew about the deck because WE TOLD THEM is the real shady part.

If you want to make an argument to limiting a person to 4x copies of a card well go ahead. I think it's stupid. Why would you NOT want to sell everything? Even if we bought them out of every card in their stock they still made a profit, because they more than likely bought their original stock at a lower price. They were just afraid they would miss the opportunity to turn a bigger profit than the profit that was in front of them....that's REAL SHADY as well if you ask me.

As stated above in numerous posts SCG seems to have changed their ways, and overall I'd probably direct someone to them if they were looking for cards as they are the best online shop. Still...that left a sour taste in my mouth and change of policy or not I wont deal with them(or a lot of other sites for that matter bc or problems I've ran into) especially when I have other options.

My local LGS is not only a great card store but also I'd consider a friend. I'd rather support his store and buy from him, and also the fact that he takes care of me bc I try to take care of him. That also applies to a few MOTL members as well. If you know me at all I'll do anything for people that don't try to screw me over, and I'll be a very pleasant loyal customer...that said if you burn me I don't care what you do to try and win me back you won't see a dime come out of my wallet in your direction even if it meant saving your life.

 

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