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Topic: Seething Love for SCG
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Volcanon
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posted March 07, 2014 02:46 PM
      
The other post is a bit unfair, so I'll come out and say I like SCG. They are one of the better online stores. I'd totally sell to them if I was in the US and they had a good buy price - they often do on esoteric stuff like P3K junk uncommons. The only reason I don't is prohibitive shipping costs. Some day I hope to be a customer of theirs.Now that there's no Scrye or whatever, my local store sells singles at the SCG price, except in Canadian dollars w/o exchange rate adjustment and no shipping. And no waiting. So it's still higher than ebay but not that much higher. Awesome. (And SCG tends not to price things highly just because they might be good, so I bought about 40 Prophets of Kruphix at a buck a piece before they went up). They've also done a lot of work for Legacy (though again, it's getting way too expensive). For those of us who *have* Legacy staples, it's basically free cash in your pocket. And if there's more Legacy players, there's probably also more players in formats I actually play and enjoy, like EDH/Cube/Draft. Now, there is a bit of possible shenanigans going on regarding bannings (they seem to have been told beforehand, which is in theory illegal), but hey.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Volcanon on March 07, 2014]
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hilikuS
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posted March 07, 2014 02:50 PM
 
5000 players for GP Richmond X $40 = $200,000That seems legit.
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spike777
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posted March 07, 2014 04:32 PM
I'm admittedly not a frequent buyer (read: once), but they do a ton for the legacy tournament scene. If that means prices go up because people are actually playing legacy (read: demand for cards), I'm that much happier.Also, nothing like this scenario would happen buying from them: I just bought 3 Wurmcoil engine from a seller off TCG Player with quite a bit of feedback. I received 3 prerelease promos instead of set non-foils. Now I have to fight with them about it. With SCG, it likely would never have even happened in the first place, and if it did, they'd probably just drop 3 set non-foils in the mail and tell me to keep the others. Now that's a customer service business model I can support.
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dwiz
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posted March 07, 2014 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by spike777:
I'm admittedly not a frequent buyer (read: once), but they do a ton for the legacy tournament scene. If that means prices go up because people are actually playing legacy (read: demand for cards), I'm that much happier.Also, nothing like this scenario would happen buying from them: I just bought 3 Wurmcoil engine from a seller off TCG Player with quite a bit of feedback. I received 3 prerelease promos instead of set non-foils. Now I have to fight with them about it. With SCG, it likely would never have even happened in the first place, and if it did, they'd probably just drop 3 set non-foils in the mail and tell me to keep the others. Now that's a customer service business model I can support.
For every made up scenario like the one you proposed, 20 people can give real scenarios where the cards they purchased went up in price and SCG cancelled their order so they didn't lose money.
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junichi
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posted March 07, 2014 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
For every made up scenario like the one you proposed, 20 people can give real scenarios where the cards they purchased went up in price and SCG cancelled their order so they didn't lose money.
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paragondave
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posted March 07, 2014 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
For every made up scenario like the one you proposed, 20 people can give real scenarios where the cards they purchased went up in price and SCG cancelled their order so they didn't lose money.
Wrong thread. This is the love SCG thread. See the hate SCG thread.
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Volcanon
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posted March 07, 2014 08:27 PM
It's owner also has an alliterative name. How can you not like that?
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KIP_NZ
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posted March 07, 2014 10:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
For every made up scenario like the one you proposed, 20 people can give real scenarios where the cards they purchased went up in price and SCG cancelled their order so they didn't lose money.
I'm 100% calling you out on this, stump email proof or be dismissed as an idiot. I know 50+ order history's including me that swing the other way. SCG deliver when you order pay for a card, that's why many of us like them.
I bought 2 Bitterblossoms at $20 after the unbanning (their last 2), LemonM bought 35 foil snapcasters as they were spiking and both orders were delivered as promised. __________________
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Sovarius
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posted March 08, 2014 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by spike777:
they'd probably just drop 3 set non-foils in the mail and tell me to keep the others. Now that's a customer service business model I can support.
They would just GIVE you $60 worth of cards for a simple mistake like that? (Or $90 if you go by SCG values, lol)
How can you know something like that if you only ordered from them once? quote:
Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
I bought 2 Bitterblossoms at $20 after the unbanning (their last 2), LemonM bought 35 foil snapcasters as they were spiking and both orders were delivered as promised.
Weren't the values of Blossom spiking before the unbanning? Namely, SCG almost pretty obviously knew it was about to be unbanned? I don't understand how they would have been $20 AFTER the unbanning? Also you are a crazy person if you think they didn't pull any stock to sell at higher prices a few short days later. If i were a conspiracy theorist i would guess they wanted you to think you got the last two at their low price honorably, so you might defend them on an internet forum later 
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Bagbokk
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posted March 08, 2014 08:41 AM
It's entirely possible that SCG doesn't list every copy of a card they have just in case a huge explosion happens, but I don't see how that changes anything. I think they honor orders because they're large enough to not care about small "losses" while other stores balks at losing $200-300 because that amount matters to them. But doesn't change the fact that they honor orders and are consistently good about things. Their buylist prices are usually crap (other than for obscure stuff) but their buyers at events are also really nice about stuff.
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted March 08, 2014 10:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
For every made up scenario like the one you proposed, 20 people can give real scenarios where the cards they purchased went up in price and SCG cancelled their order so they didn't lose money.
SCG doesn't cancel sales like that, as far as I know. Pretty much all the other stores do. __________________
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caquaa
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posted March 08, 2014 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Weren't the values of Blossom spiking before the unbanning? Namely, SCG almost pretty obviously knew it was about to be unbanned? I don't understand how they would have been $20 AFTER the unbanning?
yah, I'd certainly need some actual proof. While I know SCG will deliver if you've paid, I also know bitterblossom was well over $20 before the announcement.... I went shopping a few hours prior and couldn't find anything reasonable.
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psyduck_dude12
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posted March 08, 2014 11:21 AM
I can vouch for them always shipping:Pyromancer ascension bout at 3.49 restocked at 10 (8 copies)
Restoration angel 3.49 restocked at 6.99 (12 copies)
Birthing pod 9.99 restocked at 14.99 (8 copies) If their prices are reasonably close to the bottom I would prefer to buy from them (and CFB). I don't have to worry about getting cancelled or cards not arriving in the right condition (happened only once at CFB and the gave me the difference between nm and sp on a 100$ card) Don't get me wrong I'm not a 100% loyal to any of them but on a 100$ order if the cards are .10 more I'd rather buy from one of the big stores
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KIP_NZ
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posted March 08, 2014 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Weren't the values of Blossom spiking before the unbanning? Namely, SCG almost pretty obviously knew it was about to be unbanned? I don't understand how they would have been $20 AFTER the unbanning?Also you are a crazy person if you think they didn't pull any stock to sell at higher prices a few short days later. If i were a conspiracy theorist i would guess they wanted you to think you got the last two at their low price honorably, so you might defend them on an internet forum later
Yes on other sites the prices of BB had risen a day or 2 before the announcement, SCG had 20+ listed for $20 for a week before, when the announcement happened they sold out in 20 minutes. coolio & I were chatting in MOTL as it happened and watched the stock levels dropping, I jumped on the last couple cause I might actually want them for other things. SCG did restock some the next day at a higher price which also sold through in a matter of minutes.
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jbark
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posted March 08, 2014 03:30 PM
Even if SCG doesn't catch on to new influxes in values they still make money. Keep in mind they still bought the cards much lower. If they sell out at $20 after buying at $10. And then the value goes to $40 theyd gladly buy at $20 and sell at $40. They are sometimes too big to catch changes that happen in hours. But they do honor almost all sales which is exceptional.
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jb231
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posted March 08, 2014 11:35 PM
I buy from them from time to time and they've always honored my deals so far. I've noticed with some hot ticket cards they'll only list like maybe 8 copies of that card in stock to ensure they don't miss the boat and get bought out. I remember buying a set of Liliana of the Veil recently for 45$/each and like an hour after I bought them they restocked right back to 45/each at only 4 copies. I bought another set and they did the same thing again only this time they raised the price up (and were happy enough to honor the price I got them at before the increase).
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WeedIan
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posted March 09, 2014 04:59 AM
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ryanghall
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posted March 09, 2014 11:59 AM
They have reasonable shipping as long as you don't go over a certain amount, I think it's around $150. If you do, you get dinged with border fees that are absolute insanity.
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Default User
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posted March 10, 2014 03:17 AM
SCG might have cancelled something five or six years back, but for the last several years they have been one of the best and most reliable sellers around.If SCG has cards on sale on some price, they will respect the price and ship them. Or for some reason SCG is the only store whose buyers who get screwed don't come out and complain. I personally know that they will go the extra mail to get the cards the cutomers ask and will try to fix all problems that crop up. And I did buy them out of alpha and beta duals 2009, when they were just beginning to jump. So nm alpha Tropicals for 220$, SP Tundras for 200$ and non-blue ones from 120-160$. All sent out with no hesitation. Shipping those cards got them their profit from the buy-in price, but I still like the way they act.
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Kwas
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posted March 10, 2014 03:28 AM
I am 100% certain, that if SCG started to cancel orders because cards spike, they'd be out of business in an instant.
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hilikuS
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posted March 10, 2014 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Kwas:
I am 100% certain, that if SCG started to cancel orders because cards spike, they'd be out of business in an instant.
I dunno about all that. A lot other sites have similar prices, are seemingly less efficient from what others say about SCG's business model, and do cancel orders based on price spikes. They are alive and kicking too. MTG Fanatic is still a thing, right?
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walkerdog
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posted March 10, 2014 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
They would just GIVE you $60 worth of cards for a simple mistake like that? (Or $90 if you go by SCG values, lol)
How can you know something like that if you only ordered from them once?Weren't the values of Blossom spiking before the unbanning? Namely, SCG almost pretty obviously knew it was about to be unbanned? I don't understand how they would have been $20 AFTER the unbanning? Also you are a crazy person if you think they didn't pull any stock to sell at higher prices a few short days later. If i were a conspiracy theorist i would guess they wanted you to think you got the last two at their low price honorably, so you might defend them on an internet forum later
You do not pay attention to BB prices except when it's convenient then. BB spiked before almost every B/R announcement in anticipation that it would occur. I do think SCG gets inside info at times. I don't think this is good evidence of them getting inside info (and previously, their inside info was often based on what their team was playing, not on Wizards-reliant information).
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fluffycow
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posted March 10, 2014 09:19 AM
SCG is one of the best sites and what they have done for this game is amazing. I have bought thousands of dollars from them and I will continue to do so. Like others have said, their customer service is top notch, they have incredible delivery time and if you have a problem, they will try their best to make sure you are satisfied. Anyone who I have met in person that believes SCG is an evil engine of horribleness is because of 2 mains reasons:
1. they made a mistake of selling cards too early and now regret it
2. they wanted to buy a card but waited too long and is now too high for them to get Both of these problems can be solved by having more disposable income, and no one should realistically blame SCG for that
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sdarmst107
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posted March 10, 2014 01:58 PM
supply and demand is a fickle thing, scg i think is fair for the most part, then again i dont usually go for legacy staples as they are outside my price range, and make me pine for a simpler time when i didnt have to worry about bills...lolalso, can i make a "Seething IMPASSIVENESS for SCG" thread?:P
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daner
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posted March 10, 2014 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
LemonM bought 35 foil snapcasters as they were spiking and both orders were delivered as promised.
I'd love to see proof of this order going through....bc I've been denied the purchase of more than 4x of a card from their website before.
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