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Topic: Drafting Vintage Masters
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James_Hetfield2
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posted June 14, 2014 01:32 PM
      
Figured we could use a post to talk about Vintage Masters limited strategy (or maybe just to brag about pulling that foil Black Lotus  ).I've had the most luck with aggressive R/B decks, there is just so much good removal/burn. Shadow creatures, 2/2s for 1 and sometimes lots of Goblins. The other deck I like is U/G (or B/G) madness decks. Lots of way to discard into good stuff. Wild Mongrel for example is pretty good. What to take here?  https://www.flickr.com/photos/45329373@N03/14398679206/
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wayne
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posted June 14, 2014 02:42 PM
 
I would advocate sealed instead since we keep what we open. It would be so painful to pass a dual land, since they are not first-pick worthy.
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dfitzg88
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posted June 14, 2014 06:43 PM
I haven't drafted yet, but I love the sealed. You get to do some sick things. I just opened 2 Yawgmoth's Will and Tendrils in the same sealed pool. I never thought in a million years I would Tendrils for 14 in a sealed event.Wizards definitely made this environment awesome. I've been destroyed by some busted Goblin decks, I've gotten to abuse Recurring Nightmare, and I killed myself with Necropotence by accidentally triggering it too many times. Loving every second.
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wayne
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posted June 15, 2014 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
I haven't drafted yet, but I love the sealed. You get to do some sick things. I just opened 2 Yawgmoth's Will and Tendrils in the same sealed pool. I never thought in a million years I would Tendrils for 14 in a sealed event.Wizards definitely made this environment awesome. I've been destroyed by some busted Goblin decks, I've gotten to abuse Recurring Nightmare, and I killed myself with Necropotence by accidentally triggering it too many times. Loving every second.
Totally, so much more powerful and fun than the standard crap sealeds.
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daner
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posted June 15, 2014 11:22 AM
I'm 6-0 in draft....I'm 3-1 in sealed.Draft, to me, is VERY easy. I've drafted twice so far, and will draft again, and probably won't lose considering NOBODY has went UG tempo like me. My last draft I got lucky and opened 2x Force of Will but here were the other contents of my deck... 2x Wild Mongrel
3x Arrogant Wurm
2x Circular Logic
2x Deep Analysis
1x Man o' War
1x Yavimaya Elder
1x Basking Rootwalla
1x Simian Grunts
2x Aether Mutation
2x Repel
1x Fyndhorn Elf
1x Rescind
1x Elephant Guid
1x Aven(forget name 2/3 w Cycling)
1x Krosan Vorean(sp? 3/2 w provoke) 1x U/G CIPT pain from Tempest
1x Strip Mine
7x Forest
7x Island
The only hard pick I made all draft was deciding between Arrogant Wurm #3 or Roar of the Wurm #1. I choose Arrogant Wurm. Still don't know if that's right...
The draft before wasn't nearly as broken of a UG tempo/madness deck....but I do remember having 3x Wild Mongrel, 2x Arrogant Wurm, 2x Roar of the Wurm and 3x Man o' War along with the usual Logic/Mutation/Repel/Rescind package of about one each, and subtract the 2x FoW for 3x Counterspell.
Wild Mongrel is common......Arrogant Wurm is common.....Circular Logic is uncommon.....pretty much the entire package of UG madness exists with other broken tempo cards. You won't get me to draft anything else...ESPECIALLY when people insist passing Wild Mongrel 7th pick in pack 1.
EDIT: my sealed pool wasn't UG madness tempo oriented but it was a U/G deck with multiple counterspells and a lot of tempo cards. I only lost to a completely broken Naya Deck in sealed that I played where games 1 and 3 on the play my opponent played turn 1 Mana Crypt AND Mana Vault. Those aren't fun games...almost won one of them too....I only call it NAYA because he played RGW but it was a broken ramp deck with just about every good spell you could have.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by daner on June 15, 2014]
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mtglover
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posted June 15, 2014 01:58 PM
I prefer to not play the seal one. Although the value is in it, twice I have to go into the 3rd color (not just splashing) because none of the colors were deep enough for me to make a decent deck. My strongest dual color were black/white and it has a total of only 10 creatures.
Update, darn. I just passed my 1st money card, a bazaar of baghdad
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Volcanon
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posted June 15, 2014 06:40 PM
Hopefully this set won't devalue all of the T1 staples I've been sitting on from the master's edition sets and old set re-releases.
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted June 15, 2014 08:21 PM
From what I've heard, that stuff is tanking.__________________
Selling all my cards. Want anything?
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Volcanon
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posted June 15, 2014 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
From what I've heard, that stuff is tanking.
Well, just gotta hang on it for another five years then.
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caquaa
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posted June 16, 2014 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Well, just gotta hang on it for another five years then.
depends, they seem to be cycling through reprints often enough to keep them semi low. Cards will creep back up and when they start to get expensive I'd start to get worried... see dual lands.
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daner
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posted June 16, 2014 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
From what I've heard, that stuff is tanking.
Yes...FOW and LED were solid 100 tix not too long ago, this set now has them @ 20-25 range. Duals got whacked for about 60-70% of their value. Sea's going from upwards of 45 down to 18-20. The only cards that are worth it right now are the power pieces, yet IDK exactly how long they are gonna have this stuff for draft/sealed on Modo. Also depends how many times they bring it back like they do with older draft formats. I wouldn't sell any power if I opened it, I'd wait for a while and the prices will go up whenever this format becomes unavailable. However, I would sell it at some point sooner rather than later. If they DO plan on making Vintage a real thing on Modo I would imagine that you will see this set brought back a LOT. They'll have to to keep Vintage running.
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James_Hetfield2
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posted June 16, 2014 06:33 AM
White just seems so bad, anyone have any luck with white?Battle Screech and Swords to Plow are the only things that really have me wanting to go white (unless I open like Parallax Wave). Still having a lot of luck with decks like the one Daner posted or aggressive decks. I've opened around 20 packs and so far 19 junk rares and that one Recall. Guy last night played a Foil Emerald against me. Imagine if this set was redeemable 
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wjuseck
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posted June 16, 2014 07:07 AM
Did three drafts so far. My initial impression is that UG is great on the back of 2x or 3x Counterspells. The tempo is so good and to back it up with a hard counter for two mana is amazing.That said, the one draft I actually won was RG Fires.
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mtglover
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posted June 16, 2014 01:13 PM
I didn't open a foil black lotus but I did open a foil mox pearl. I traded it for a mox jet and a mox emerald. As for the draft, I did ok but it is very strange because I won two out of my three matches and two of them are due to my opponent timing out and the 3rd one, he almost timed out
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James_Hetfield2
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posted June 16, 2014 09:27 PM
Just opened a Twister, thats like being the tallest hobbit 
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wjuseck
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posted June 16, 2014 09:40 PM
Best thing I've opened is Tundra, Matt. I would be happy with Timetwister.Played another draft tonight. My deck was a black/white aggro deck. Battle Screech was excellent and as usual Benevolent Bodyguard straight up wins games with an extra 3-4 unblockable damage. Lost against Goblin Trenches games one and three-- game two was Battle Screech heaven. I am trying to mete out my winnings to prolong the draft. Sucks it's 4 tickets instead of 2.
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Volcanon
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posted June 16, 2014 10:39 PM
I opened a sol ring, which would have been awesome but for the fact that they released the commander decks online.Went 2-1, losing to a goblins deck that got the god draw three games in a row.
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stab107
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posted June 17, 2014 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by wjuseck:
I am trying to mete out my winnings to prolong the draft. Sucks it's 4 tickets instead of 2.
This is what keeps me away from drafting VM, the whole "premium" thing. $7 packs and 4 tix to draft is rather steep. Of course, I have no interest in a digital collection so I may be in the minority.
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James_Hetfield2
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posted June 17, 2014 08:40 AM
Yeah its expensive. I set aside $200 to draft and if I hadn't opened that Recall (which I sold for 100 tix), I'd be done by now. And yeah those Goblins decks can be insane. Warchief seems like one of the key cards there. Also I've lost twice now to that Black 1B vote card, where you lose 4 life. So look out for that.
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noquarter
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posted June 17, 2014 02:02 PM
I played a few sealed over the weekend, don't think I will play sealed again unless I have a bunch of packs to open.Ended up going 2-2 thrice, 3-1 once and 1-3 once. The best deck was a GBr. Most pools have been crap. Best thing I opened, Bayou. Got 4 packs left, so will draft that. Think after that I will be buying some stuff for an eternal deck/collection. Might draft again later.
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daner
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posted June 17, 2014 02:50 PM
Here is my latest deck.....
1 CC
Brainstorm
2x Swords to Plowshares 2 CC Cloud of Faeries
Waterfront Bouncer
2x Counterspell 3 CC 2x Psychatog
Ophidian
Man o' War
Chimeric Idol
2x Circular Logic 4 CC Su-Chi
Deep Analysis
Keeneye Aven
Bragg, King Eternal
Jace, the Mind Sculptor 5 CC Thropter Squadron
Scrivener 6 CC Dark Hatchling
Noble Templat X CC Death Grasp
this deck wasn't at all fair....3-0
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shade2k1
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posted June 18, 2014 06:23 PM
Goblins are completely busted in this format. Got hit for 25 in two turns from an empty battlefield. Ridiculous.
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Volcanon
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posted June 20, 2014 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by shade2k1:
Goblins are completely busted in this format. Got hit for 25 in two turns from an empty battlefield. Ridiculous.
Yup, though it looks like a somewhat hard deck to pull off. It's an okay format, gets boring fast and costs too much. I got a few duals and money rares, so I'll just let them sit until they get expensive now.
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shade2k1
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posted June 20, 2014 10:46 AM
This format is getting boring quickly. It's too aggro-oriented for me.I also remember now why I stopped playing MTGO; the shuffler hoses me at least one game in every match. No joke. __________________
There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss. But when it looked back at us...you blinked.
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shade2k1
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posted June 20, 2014 07:36 PM
So my match record is now as follows:w/Goblins: 6-1 (loss vs. Goblins)
w/everything else: 1-8 lol
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