5 of these stores, they got the cards, marked the ones that were NM and said "these are good", and asked me in an eMail if I would take a reduced amount for the cards not in NM shape.

Strike Zone, on the other hand, I got one eMail from them, the one saying "we haven't gotten your cards yet" (like 2 days after I submitted the buylist, because I shipped them the next day).

Then, suddenly, yesterday, my cards show back up in the mail. But not all of my cards. One was missing.

In the envelope it has a piece of paper saying basically "cards not in sufficient condition. Cards returned at your expense". I'm thinking "wtf do you mean at my expense?"

So I go through them, and realize they kept one of my cards, presumably to cover their shipping.

So I call them, talk to a guy who was nice, but said "hey dude, I don't do the buylist stuff, I'm not sure who did, but they probably weren't in NM shape". I explain that I'm looking at most of these that are NM... whatever...

So I send an eMail to them, and hear back from a guy, and he says "if there's too many cards not NM shape, it becomes 'cost prohibitive' to process the order, we kept a card to cover our cost of materials, postage with tracking, and time to process it".

SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY YOU BASTARDS? I was about to hit the roof. These people don't so much as send me anything besides an automated eMail, and then, when they get my cards, they don't say "Hey, some of these are a bit under NM shape, we'll offer X for it", no, they just mail them back, and KEEP ONE OF MY CARDS.

Spread the word around, these guys are terrible. Horrific customer service, horrible business practices... whatever.

and quit your whining

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I am surprised, honestly, that it is legal for them to just take a card from you, even with the disclaimer on their site.

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Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Strike zone is awful to deal with and the owner is incredibly condescending.

I am surprised, honestly, that it is legal for them to just take a card from you, even with the disclaimer on their site.

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Many things are this way unless you're willing to drag the other party to court.

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Originally posted by chaos021:
Many things are this way unless you're willing to drag the other party to court.

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Originally posted by coolio:
send in nm cards, end of story..

and quit your whining

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Quit being a jerk. Especially to new members.

Their purchasing policy doesn't ever state that they'll take cards to pay for shipping and handling. In fact, there's no indication that they interpret "fees" to include goods and not just cash.

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Quit being a jerk. Especially to new members.

Their purchasing policy doesn't ever state that they'll take cards to pay for shipping and handling. In fact, there's no indication that they interpret "fees" to include goods and not just cash.

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Originally posted by slurpee:

I think though that every shop is being picky on condition. I think this stems from the fact that the people whom they sell to are picky so they must be as well now.

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Yes, their buyers are extremely picky, much like many buyers here who want perfect NM cards. I had many conversations with the head guy at various events and it is a product of who buys from them. That said, when cards are that good, they tend to pay better than most on the floors of GPs.

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
That said, when cards are that good, they tend to pay better than most on the floors of GPs.

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I would disagree w/ that, a year and half ago I can remember them not willing to pay $400 for a playset of NM/Mint Underground seas, but someone else was willing to pay my asking price. To be fair most of the other dealers wouldn't come close, but SCG did pay the cost to be the boss on that one.

.02 and +1 to freedom of speech,
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Originally posted by ogre:
I would disagree w/ that, a year and half ago I can remember them not willing to pay $400 for a playset of NM/Mint Underground seas, but someone else was willing to pay my asking price. To be fair most of the other dealers wouldn't come close, but SCG did pay the cost to be the boss on that one.

.02 and +1 to freedom of speech,
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Originally posted by dwiz:
About that time they straight up told me the could be competitive on my Minty unlimited underground seas, which I respected. Better than getting a jagoff 40% offer which some places will give.

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Originally posted by daner:
Im simply amazed you used the word "jagoff".....I had to check where you were from.

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Is it a regional term? I'm not familiar with the etymology of jagoff.

Edit: ah, it's from Pittsburgh. Makes sense. You do a Pittsburgh left at a red light (aka gunning it to make a left turn as soon as the light turns green) and you get a "!@#$%^&*() jagoff!"

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Quit being a jerk. Especially to new members.

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not being a jerk, stating the obvious.. if ppl sending in to buylist dont have a clue, it's time to get one.. and learn the definition of NM

and quite frankly, i think it's a good lesson.. the questionable grading standards of the majority of people is quite appalling

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Originally posted by coolio:
not being a jerk, stating the obvious.. if ppl sending in to buylist dont have a clue, it's time to get one.. and learn the definition of NM

and quite frankly, i think it's a good lesson.. the questionable grading standards of the majority of people is quite appalling

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Originally posted by coolio:
not being a jerk, stating the obvious.. if ppl sending in to buylist dont have a clue, it's time to get one.. and learn the definition of NM

and quite frankly, i think it's a good lesson.. the questionable grading standards of the majority of people is quite appalling

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There are various ways of phrasing things. Some are lengthy and polite/impolite, others are curt and polite/impolite. Yours was curt and impolite (e.g. "quit your whining"). Of course, in all fairness to you, those are pretty much the only kinds of posts I've seen you make these last fourteen years.

And, as I pointed out, I think it's misapplied, since I think the OP has a legitimate grievance: the OP had every reason to expect to have to pay to have his/her cards shipped back to him/her, but no reason to expect that payment to take the form of one of the cards he/she sent, especially without his/her consent with respect to the card selected.

I think you're right about the grading standards that people generally use--on the occasions when I trade, I'm consistently disappointed by others' grading standards. And you're right that one ought to internalize appropriate grading standards, or at least ensure that their standards line up with those of the party with whom they are trading (/selling/buying/etc.). All of this is consistent with the tone and content of your first post being jerkish.

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Originally posted by ogre:
I would disagree w/ that, a year and half ago I can remember them not willing to pay $400 for a playset of NM/Mint Underground seas, but someone else was willing to pay my asking price. To be fair most of the other dealers wouldn't come close, but SCG did pay the cost to be the boss on that one.

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That is why I said tend to be, not always. If I recall correctly, every GP I go to, they always get my business because of their buy prices.

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Originally posted by coolio:
send in nm cards, end of story..

and quit your whining

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Originally posted by barwick11:
Wow, you sound like as much of an a-hole as the owner is in my dealings with him!

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Originally posted by barwick11:
Wow, you sound like as much of an a-hole as the owner is in my dealings with him!

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If I had a dollar for everytime a mottle newb called coolio an a-hole...and a penny for everytime I got a 'NM' card that wasn't...I'd have a lot of singles and coppers.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
If I had a dollar for everytime a mottle newb called coolio an a-hole...and a penny for everytime I got a 'NM' card that wasn't...I'd have a lot of singles and coppers.

but yeah, he's right.

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