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skizzikmonger
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 posted December 25, 2014 04:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for skizzikmonger Click Here to Email skizzikmonger Send a private message to skizzikmonger Click to send skizzikmonger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
For those who haven't seen it yet, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

Spoiler

 
A1phaMale
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 posted December 25, 2014 10:16 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for A1phaMale Click Here to Email A1phaMale Send a private message to A1phaMale Click to send A1phaMale an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I've never seen an expansion set that has the same cards as the main block set (life-gaining dual lands).
 
wayne
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 posted December 25, 2014 10:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
I've never seen an expansion set that has the same cards as the main block set (life-gaining dual lands).

Dragon's Maze?

 
Pail42
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quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
I've never seen an expansion set that has the same cards as the main block set (life-gaining dual lands).

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/fetching-look-fate-reforged-2014-12-24

"This is similar to the manner in which Return to Ravnica dual lands were available in Dragon's Maze in the lands slot.

In other words, it's entirely possible to open your Fate Reforged packs at a Prerelease and, instead of seeing a basic land or a Jungle Hollow, see this(a fetch) staring back at you:"

 
mm1983
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Just like dragons maze there will be potential to see 3 rares in a single booster pack if you pull the normal pack rare/mythic, foil rare/mythic, and a non foil fetch land. You still have to buy khans booster packs if you want the foil fetches.
 
A1phaMale
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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
Just like dragons maze there will be potential to see 3 rares in a single booster pack if you pull the normal pack rare/mythic, foil rare/mythic, and a non foil fetch land. You still have to buy khans booster packs if you want the foil fetches.

Ahhh, I didn't think that those lands would be treated the same way as the shock lands in Dragon's maze. I think it is a great idea.

 
hilikuS
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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
Just like dragons maze there will be potential to see 3 rares in a single booster pack if you pull the normal pack rare/mythic, foil rare/mythic, and a non foil fetch land. You still have to buy khans booster packs if you want the foil fetches.

Jeez, if they put Zen fetches in like some people are saying, you can get 3 fetches in the same pack.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by hilikuS on December 26, 2014]

 
mm1983
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Originally posted by hilikuS:

Jeez, if they put Zen fetches in like some people are saying, you can get 3 fetches in the same pack.

If it's in the same style as Dragon's Maze, your pack rare/mythic and foil rare/mythic will be from Fate Reforged and then the land slot will be a Khans common cycle non basic land or Khans non foil fetch. I think the chances of pulling a fetch will be less of pulling a shock land in dragon's maze. Dragon's Maze was claimed to be 1 out of 8 packs on average had a shock land. I could see this being at least 1 out of 12 packs for a fetch land.

 
Boston
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The odds of a shock in Dragon's Maze was nowhere near 1 in 8. It was more like 1 in 20. In a box you got one or two shocks. I'd expect the same in the upcoming set.
 
Pail42
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I agree with what Boston said.
 
skizzikmonger
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I really like the Dash mechanic
 
Pail42
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So seeing as how Ugin is here and there is a card with Ugin and Nicol Bolas fighting in the art anybody want to take bets on whether we get a new Bolas planeswalker card, a reprint, or no-print?

I'm hoping for a new one.

 
flam flawless
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I'm looking for a good Temur casting planeswalker in this set.

On a Sidenote- this card got me excited:

Soulfire grand master

1W - 2/2

Lifelink

Instants and sorceries you cast have Lifelink.
2 u/r u/r
When you cast an instant, put it back in your hand instead

 
Tim05
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The Soulfire Grand Master looks really cool. I'm wondering the feasability of running him in my U/R Delver Modern deck.
 
flam flawless
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quote:
Originally posted by Tim05:
The Soulfire Grand Master looks really cool. I'm wondering the feasability of running him in my U/R Delver Modern deck.

Really there's no room for it. If helix didn't make the cut, I don't think this guy does.

 
Volcanon
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 posted December 30, 2014 03:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
What happens if I blink a manifested non-permanent?
 
skizzikmonger
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
So seeing as how Ugin is here and there is a card with Ugin and Nicol Bolas fighting in the art anybody want to take bets on whether we get a new Bolas planeswalker card, a reprint, or no-print?

I'm hoping for a new one.

I'm hoping for a new one too, but I'll be happy with a reprint

 
chaos021
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
What happens if I blink a manifested non-permanent?

Is the complete rules text for "manifest" out yet? I couldn't find it.

 
aethertech
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I normally don't think I'd participate on a discussion thread- but the new demon, is very good.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/27/1311763047887/Antonio-Banderas-007.jpg

 
Pail42
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
What happens if I blink a manifested non-permanent?

My guess is graveyard. There will need to be new rules as this isn't currently supported.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/mechanics-fate-reforged-2014-12-29
"A few older cards turn a face-down creature face up. If you manifest an instant or sorcery card, and one of these older cards tries to turn it face up, reveal the card and it stays on the battlefield face down."

 
Pail42
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quote:
Originally posted by aethertech:
I normally don't think I'd participate on a discussion thread- but the new demon, is very good

Both look good to me. Personally, I'm looking forward to the 4/4 flying indestructible hexproof one on turn 3.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on December 30, 2014]

 
aethertech
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Both look good to me. Personally, I'm looking forward to the 4/4 flying indestructible hexproof one on turn 3.

I was talking about the 5-mana 5/4, but the delve one is also pretty nifty.
 
skizzikmonger
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I really like Archfiend of Depravity & Dromoka, the Eternal(?) for Abzan

Monastery Mentor
2W
Creature-Human Monk (M)
Prowess
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, put
a 1/1 white Monk creature token with prowess
onto the battlefield.
2/2

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on December 31, 2014]

 
skizzikmonger
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Tasigur, the Golden Fang
5B
Legendary Creature-Human Shaman
Delve
2{G/U}{G/U}: Put the top two cards of your
library into your graveyard, then return a
nonland card of an opponent's choice from
your graveyard to your hand.
4/5

A 4/5 for 1-3 mana and no drawbacks seems pretty good

 
dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Tasigur, the Golden Fang
5B
Legendary Creature-Human Shaman
Delve
2{G/U}{G/U}: Put the top two cards of your
library into your graveyard, then return a
nonland card of an opponent's choice from
your graveyard to your hand.
4/5

A 4/5 for 1-3 mana and no drawbacks seems pretty good

That is insane. But I come from the age of playing 4x control magic so you could steal air elementals and royal assassins.

 

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