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Topic: MOTL getting less popular?
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jaromirjagr
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posted February 28, 2015 09:11 AM
      
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Originally posted by Pail42:
Why spend $1 to ship 1 puca point worth of cards when you can just buy the puca point for $1 AND sell your cards to a dealer for a few cents.It's not hard to sell bulk to dealers. Shipping a million C/UC cards through puca to get a mox seems highly unprofitable - and that doesn't even account for the time spent doing those thousands of shipments.
Thats why you make the trade worth more than your postage.On pucatrade crap rares are worth more than bulk rate,at .18 cents each and you can move playable commons and uncommons that stores would buy at bulk rate and here you would get .15 cents.For example qasali pridemage is worth about 185 points on pucatrade so $1.85.No one would give you that much money for one but on puca you get full value.Im not trying to sell their site.Its not for some people.If your willing to do the work their is a gain but if you are impatient just buy packs or pay full retail at a shop or online store.I find that instead of going into my budget to buy my mtg wants I just get the points.Its like a bank for me and I dont have to pay shipping or US prices.
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ogre
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posted March 05, 2015 06:07 PM
 
Thought about my last post and don't want to beat MOTL, it's been great for anybody that's used it for as long as I have so instead I say thank you.That being said, is there anything we could do, as members, to financially encourage you to update the site? If you google search a card, for example Mishra's Bauble, you will get a TCG at/near the top of the search result, is there a way that could be done w/ MOTL? Note, I don't want to burn bread on MOTL just want to promote some constructive conversation and hopefully action on the topic. .02,
Jesse __________________
"call the hospital now"
"I'm gonna kill you"
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paragondave
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posted March 05, 2015 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by ogre:
Thought about my last post and don't want to beat MOTL, it's been great for anybody that's used it for as long as I have so instead I say thank you.That being said, is there anything we could do, as members, to financially encourage you to update the site? If you google search a card, for example Mishra's Bauble, you will get a TCG at/near the top of the search result, is there a way that could be done w/ MOTL? Note, I don't want to burn bread on MOTL just want to promote some constructive conversation and hopefully action on the topic. .02,
Jesse
Most of us long term members and I'd say most of the new members agree. The owners/administrators of the site would have to share your concerns/interest in this. They don't.
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Nitelite
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posted March 05, 2015 09:27 PM
The admins no longer care for this site. It's not about time, capabilities, or even money as there are enough users (and mods) that could provide any of that. The admins don't care and haven't for a long time. They don't read the message boards and never answer email so attempting to contact them is useless. I did the only thing I could do to "voice" my displeasure and stopped purchasing cards from Eudemonia but I'm sure they don't care about that either.
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Lord Crovax
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posted March 05, 2015 11:49 PM
and yet the front page has up to date articles, and the store is up to date, just the forums dying..__________________
I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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MagicPatty
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posted March 06, 2015 05:06 AM
If there is enough concern for the site being out of date, I'm sure some members could put together the funds to buy a domain name and get a developer to create a new, similar site... MTLO: Magic Trading League Online...If the only way to bring this site back to popularity is to start from scratch (as the old admins have abandoned) then why not do so? You could even make MOTL refs transferrable to MTLO! actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea
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Tim05
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posted March 06, 2015 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by MagicPatty:
If there is enough concern for the site being out of date, I'm sure some members could put together the funds to buy a domain name and get a developer to create a new, similar site... MTLO: Magic Trading League Online...If the only way to bring this site back to popularity is to start from scratch (as the old admins have abandoned) then why not do so? You could even make MOTL refs transferrable to MTLO! actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea
I would if enough people did as well. The problem is finding someone to step up and actually start putting something together. It seems like everyone is just talk
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flavor_of_the_weak
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posted March 06, 2015 08:20 AM
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AGO
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posted March 06, 2015 09:03 AM
What about a Kickstarter?
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LandDestroyer
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posted March 06, 2015 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by ogre:
Remember a time when if you posted on the t/a and sales forum if you didn't up it once a day or no one posted your thread was well into the second page.
Right now there are posts at the bottom of the front page that are 4 days old on the t/a forum (it's 3/6 and there are posts with last post on 3/2). I haven't had to up my post b/c it's still on the front page (come on, someone of you must have some really beat Unlimited cards you want to sell) also, does it seem like the 'see who is browsing motl' page no longer works? It looks like it is showing history from i kid you not 2005. right now for me it shows people editing a donate to the motl stack thread: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/014528.html
[Edited 2 times, lastly by LandDestroyer on March 06, 2015]
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mm1983
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posted March 06, 2015 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by MagicPatty:
If there is enough concern for the site being out of date, I'm sure some members could put together the funds to buy a domain name and get a developer to create a new, similar site... MTLO: Magic Trading League Online...
If the only way to bring this site back to popularity is to start from scratch (as the old admins have abandoned) then why not do so? You could even make MOTL refs transferrable to MTLO!actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea
I like the idea of transferring MOTL refs to a brand new site that would be fully operational and convenient for everyone to use. I'm finding about the only way to get anything done on MOTL anymore is to be cheaper than TCG low on everything I want to sell here.
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Nitelite
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posted March 06, 2015 09:25 PM
The biggest problem is that there are only a few people here that could realistically get something going where enough people might migrate. If I started a site, i'd have a hard time getting people to transfer over because I am basically unknown to most of you (even though I have been here for over 12 years now). So the person doing it would have to be a highly visible member of this site.
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ogre
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posted March 07, 2015 07:45 AM
Doing a kickstarter to get a new site going w/ the info mentioned by MagicPatty doesn't sound bad to me, does anyone have an idea how much this would cost?__________________
"call the hospital now"
"I'm gonna kill you"
inspiring words from Mino Fazio
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wayne
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posted March 11, 2015 09:05 PM
I think that Pucatrade will overtake MOTL one day if nothing is done, if it has not already done so. Although not perfect, they are continually seeking ways to improve and members are happy to contribute financially.
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Tim05
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posted March 12, 2015 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by wayne:
I think that Pucatrade will overtake MOTL one day if nothing is done, if it has not already done so. Although not perfect, they are continually seeking ways to improve and members are happy to contribute financially.
I would think it definitely already has. Everyone I play with has heard of Pucatrade. No one knows what MOTL is.
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AGO
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posted March 12, 2015 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by Tim05:
I would think it definitely already has. Everyone I play with has heard of Pucatrade. No one knows what MOTL is.
We just need to admit it. MOTL is dying. We won't be able to save it because it has fell to far behind. PUCA Trade has people actively working on it. Yes you have to pay for certain features but I would pay $45 a year to save MOTL to. I might as well spend that money on a site willing to move forward with online trading. PUCA will just get better and better. My greatest fear is the massive influx of points will cause the value of the PUCA point to diminish. Giving free points away and just giving both parties their points back to resolve a case can not be good for the economy.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by AGO on March 12, 2015]
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MagicPatty
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posted March 12, 2015 09:43 AM
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. My greatest fear is the massive influx of points will cause the value of the PUCA point to diminish. Giving free points away and just giving both parties their points back to resolve a case can not be good for the economy.
I would have to share in this 'fear.' While the points are backed by cards and can even be purchased, they DO give points for free. When a new member does X Y Z and earns 200 free points, its not like PUCA is sending a couple bucks to the fed. Eventually they will have to address this issue. Perhaps they already have a plan in place???
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slurpee
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posted March 12, 2015 10:02 AM
While I am not on PUcatrade, I will say my fear would be what others have, massive inflow of points and dilutes the value. Also that good cards are not available to use the points on after the influx...thus leaving you nothing to even spend them on of value
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stinkinogre
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posted March 12, 2015 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by MagicPatty:
I would have to share in this 'fear.' While the points are backed by cards and can even be purchased, they DO give points for free. When a new member does X Y Z and earns 200 free points, its not like PUCA is sending a couple bucks to the fed.Eventually they will have to address this issue. Perhaps they already have a plan in place???
Probably some kind of puca point sink like so many points to upgrade to gold or unlock this feature with points.
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paragondave
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posted March 12, 2015 08:28 PM
I have reached out to nouveaux and inquired about the current state of MOTL and the possibility of purchasing it. It would be my preference to purchase MOTL and try to update it rather than to design a new site. I don't expect a useful response and I don't know if he even has any input into a decision like that but I'll let you know if I receive one.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by paragondave on March 12, 2015]
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AEther Storm
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posted March 13, 2015 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by paragondave:
I have reached out to nouveaux and inquired about the current state of MOTL and the possibility of purchasing it. It would be my preference to purchase MOTL and try to update it rather than to design a new site. I don't expect a useful response and I don't know if he even has any input into a decision like that but I'll let you know if I receive one.
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Tim05
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posted March 13, 2015 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by paragondave:
I have reached out to nouveaux and inquired about the current state of MOTL and the possibility of purchasing it. It would be my preference to purchase MOTL and try to update it rather than to design a new site. I don't expect a useful response and I don't know if he even has any input into a decision like that but I'll let you know if I receive one.
If you receive one and are up for the revitalization effort, I would be willing to contribute monetarily. Not much of a tech guru so could not offer much assistance on that front.
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mm1983
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posted March 13, 2015 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by slurpee:
While I am not on PUcatrade, I will say my fear would be what others have, massive inflow of points and dilutes the value. Also that good cards are not available to use the points on after the influx...thus leaving you nothing to even spend them on of value
Point values for cards would have to rise if an influx were to happen. Who sets the point value for cards, does Pucatrade or the person listing the cards? I doubt Pucatrade is good to do with anything Standard legal because just like other sites too many people have the same cards they are trying to unload and the people who are able to get rid of them are the ones who have the best deal, not so much the ones who have the most deals or sales done.
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Pail42
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posted March 13, 2015 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by mm1983:
Who sets the point value for cards, does Pucatrade or the person listing the cards?
Puca.
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paragondave
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posted March 17, 2015 05:17 PM
the mods have stopped moderating the BTA forum. The end is near.
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