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skizzikmonger
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posted May 01, 2015 04:06 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for skizzikmonger Click Here to Email skizzikmonger Send a private message to skizzikmonger Click to send skizzikmonger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
Weren't Noble Hierarch and Vendilion Clique already officially spoiled? I didn't see them on that list.

They're not on the list because it's a fake list

 
daner
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
They're not on the list because it's a fake list

Thank Christ.....anyone who would open Ambassador Laquatus would windmill slam the victory in any limited format.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Thank Christ.....anyone who would open Ambassador Laquatus would windmill slam the victory in any limited format.

Unless opponent had Emrakul....

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Thank Christ.....anyone who would open Ambassador Laquatus would windmill slam the victory in any limited format.

Yup, looks like it was a fake.

There will likely be a lot of the one-time ramp guys in the set though, so we will get to suffer through Emrakul getting hard cast.

 
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posted May 01, 2015 06:38 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for stab107 Click Here to Email stab107 Send a private message to stab107 Click to send stab107 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So metalcraft looks to be a thing here. Will the eldrazi spawn be a thing too?
 
flam flawless
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I'm thinking urzatron lands and maybe prime time...
 
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Originally posted by flam flawless:
I'm thinking urzatron lands and maybe prime time...


One prediction down one to go

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
So metalcraft looks to be a thing here. Will the eldrazi spawn be a thing too?

Metalcraft is supposed to be the white-blue strategy.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/developing-and-designing-modern-masters-2015-edition-2015-05-04
"The white-blue artifacts strategy was a popular archetype from Modern Masters. .... As it turned out, white-blue ended up being the best place to put this deck again."

Elzdrazi spawn may be a thing for Black-Green decks (same article),
"For instance, the black-green archetype in this set is all about making tokens and sacrificing them for value." It may make sense to have a Gx ramp strategy as well which the spawn could also play with.

Apparently the Blue-Red theme is elementals:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/mining-past-2015-05-04
"Traditionally blue-red tends to be the "spells matter" color combination, but the available cards didn't really support this theme. So Erik and his team got creative choosing to give blue-red a theme of Elementals."

Summary - revealed archetypes:
WU - Metalcraft
BG - Token sacrifice
UR - Elementals

 
Pail42
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posted May 05, 2015 08:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Finkel's article on the Shadowmage reprint is hillarious.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/shadowmage-himself-2015-05-05

"There is no strategy for Shadowmage Infiltrator. If you put it in a serious Constructed deck, you are wrong. If you take him highly in a Cube draft, you are also wrong. If you play him in a Cube draft, you are likely, but not definitely, wrong. I haven't seen the rest of Modern Masters 2015 Edition, but I suspect Shadowmage will be playable but unspectacular. Which is about the best he's been in a very long time."

 
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posted May 05, 2015 10:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for iccarus Click Here to Email iccarus Send a private message to iccarus Click to send iccarus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Best preview article ever.

I've always loved SMI and have tried to play him a few times. I'm a little disappointed it's taking a rare slot though. A card like that would likely be printed at uncommon using current power levels.

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There's a few turds that are taking the rare slot so far. Glad to see Hurkyl's recall in this set to drive the online price back to reality.
 
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I do like that they still worded shadowmage as having fear. You just don't see that anymore. Intimidate would also imply that blue and black creatures can block it so therefore it has to be fear.
 
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Man, remember the days when Shadowmage Infiltrator was a $15-20 chase rare? He was actually pretty solid back in the day when Magic: the Gathering was about magic, and not just smashing dudes together like Pokemon.

I say that as my main Modern decks are Merfolk and Affinity...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Man, remember the days when Shadowmage Infiltrator was a $15-20 chase rare? He was actually pretty solid back in the day when Magic: the Gathering was about magic, and not just smashing dudes together like Pokemon.

I say that as my main Modern decks are Merfolk and Affinity...


When morphing a 4/5 flying Lifelink guy turn 4 tapping out both turn 3 & 4 (unless you were lucky enough to curve out with a turn 1 bird) was crushing to an opponent.
I actually really liked running SMI along side of Laquatus champ & ichorid in a sorta aggro build.

 
Pail42
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More archetypes revealed - WB spirits and WG tokens

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/limited-information/modern-masters-2015-edition-previews-2015-05-06

Summary - revealed archetypes:
WU - Metalcraft
WB - Spirits
WG - Tokens
BG - Token sacrifice
UR - Elementals

 
dfitzg88
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posted May 08, 2015 07:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for dfitzg88 Click Here to Email dfitzg88 Send a private message to dfitzg88 Click to send dfitzg88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
For those of you who ignored the Quag Sickness spoiler article (by Good Gamery who spoiled it originally in ?M11), it's clearly fake. They've been previewing so many ridiculous things that keep getting added to the spoiler (Magmaw among them).

It's actually great every time a card from GG ends up in the spoiler (Krenko's Command with modal is my favorite one)

 
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It looks like the full spoiler is on the Wizard's site now.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/modernmasters2015edition

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
It looks like the full spoiler is on the Wizard's site now.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/modernmasters2015editi on


ya we're all over here btching about what got left otu
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/35ans2/full_card_image_gallery_is_up_no_serum_visions/

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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
It looks like the full spoiler is on the Wizard's site now.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/modernmasters2015editi on


So, I'm noticing a thing or two with this set: Lots of white cards are from Kamigawa. A bunch of blue cards are from New Phyrexia. Red cards are from Zendikar and Alara. Green cards from...things with tokens and buffs. And black cards from Lorwyn.


I do approve of the Expedition Map reprint - having to pay more then $0.50 for that card is a crime. But I'm sad to see....no filters or manlands

 
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I'm kind of glad now that I didn't get around to selling off some of my Modern staples. Almost nothing I have is getting reprinted.

There are some disappointments, for sure. I'm very shocked not to see Serum Visions in here. That just seemed like such a no-brainer.

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It's nice they printed Thief of Hope as a common for pauper cube, but W/B should have been Orzhov. W/R could have been samurais if they *had* to put in a deck from Kamigawa. Also no Tallowisp = ????? !!!!! ... that's the best non-rare spirit.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Also no Tallowisp = ????? !!!!! ... that's the best non-rare spirit.

Sure, but do you really want the spirit player to start playing arrest four turns in a row because of an uncommon?

 
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I was suprised at stuff not printed:
Damnation
balefire liege (printed other liege but nobilis was?)
White having all of this equipment equip but no stoneforge?? Okay correction Armament Master or puresteel paladin
Only one Hatchling? None of of the other enchantments?
REACH from a format of draft sealed, not one creature has it???
Goblin guide? Made sense for the format and value. wildfire in its spot made no sense.
Manlands I expected them considering they were popular at time.
Chameleon Colossus made sense for green, not knocking the hierach reprint but two exalted cards hardly make a deck viable.
I can't even follow where black is going given its random creature types for draft. let alone the lack of decent com/unc to draft in black.
Mirran crusader makes it but not its black counterpart???
Intomible archangel, really?? it got battlegrace for draft, there isn't even much artifact destruction. I thought for sure the red creature that destroys an artifact when it comes into play for 4 would have made it.
I expected at least a swords of something not comet storm

I didn't expect every card I opened to be 10.00, but at least if it is a dud, make it have synergy with the other cards.

Lastly this format, good creatures are going to come at a premium. There is a ton of removal in this

[Edited 3 times, lastly by slurpee on May 08, 2015]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by slurpee:
I was suprised at stuff not printed:
Damnation
balefire liege (printed other liege but nobilis was?)
White having all of this equipment equip but no stoneforge??
Only one Hatchling? None of of the other enchantments?
REACH from a format of draft sealed, not one creature has it???
Goblin guide? Made sense for the format and value. wildfire in its spot made no sense.
Manlands I expected them considering they were popular at time.
Chameleon Colossus made sense for green, not knocking the hierach reprint but two exalted cards hardly make a deck viable.
I can't even follow where black is going given its random creature types for draft. let alone the lack of decent com/unc to draft in black.
Mirran crusader makes it but not its black counterpart???
Intomible archangel, really?? it got battlegrace for draft, there isn't even much artifact destruction. I thought for sure the red creature that destroys an artifact when it comes into play for 4 would have made it.

They won't print Stoneforge Mystic in modern masters cause it is banned in modern.

 
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This set is so bad for how much it will cost that I'm canceling my Vegas trip. Already called Priceline to see if I can transfer my hotel reservation (I can). CFB already refunded my registration fee. And I booked my ticket through Southwest so I can cancel that at anytime.
 

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