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Topic: MM2 value?
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vintagemasta
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posted May 26, 2015 11:29 AM
        
So I opened 2 boxes I had preordered last night. For sake of argument, say I paid $240 (msrp) for each box (I got them cheaper). I will list all notable pulls in terms of monetary value and I would like a consensus whether the cards I got was worth the money spent. Keep in mind I'm not worried about playables or collecting, strictly monetary value.Apocalypse hydra
Bitterblossom
Creakwood liege
Cryptic command
Dark confidant
Eye of Ugin
Fulminator mage
Hurkyl's recall
Karn liberated
Kiji-Jiki mirror breaker
Leyline of sanctity
Noble hierach
Remand x 2
Spellskite
Splinter twin
Surgical extraction x 2
Tarmogoyf
Tezzeret the seeker
Ulamog, the infinite Gyre
Wilt-leaf liege x 2
[Edited 1 times, lastly by vintagemasta on May 26, 2015]
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Volcanon
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posted May 26, 2015 12:03 PM
You did not make money.
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Rabid Wo1f
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posted May 26, 2015 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Volcanon:
You did not make money.
agreed. Seems rotten.
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Demilio
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posted May 26, 2015 12:25 PM
This is a good way of seeing the tcg low of everything.https://www.echomtg.com/set/MM2/modern-masters-2015-edition/
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vintagemasta
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posted May 26, 2015 01:21 PM
Thanks for the link. I don't foresee myself opening anymore boxes.
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Volcanon
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posted May 26, 2015 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by vintagemasta:
Thanks for the link. I don't foresee myself opening anymore boxes.
Best not to.
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marvinc023
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posted May 26, 2015 01:34 PM
People are opening 2/3 Mythics per box and based on what you opened I think for 2 boxes that's a pretty good haul. Just not your money back. You have to get very lucky to even have a shot at getting your money back.
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mm1983
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posted May 26, 2015 01:49 PM
Though the box value may not be there now you may have to wait a year or 2 to see "real value" of the cards. Everything is considered to be brand new again and many people are opening this product so that reflects greatly on prices. Being widely available drops the price by a decent amount but as supply drys up prices will start to rise again. This and if there's great tournament support for modern events you will see prices start to rise again. A modern masters 3 might be the start of things going downhill for the game especially if it's another non limited friendly set and the card quality sees no improvement from modern masters 2.
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Volcanon
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posted May 26, 2015 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by mm1983:
Though the box value may not be there now you may have to wait a year or 2 to see "real value" of the cards. Everything is considered to be brand new again and many people are opening this product so that reflects greatly on prices. Being widely available drops the price by a decent amount but as supply drys up prices will start to rise again. This and if there's great tournament support for modern events you will see prices start to rise again. A modern masters 3 might be the start of things going downhill for the game especially if it's another non limited friendly set and the card quality sees no improvement from modern masters 2.
MM2 is limited friendly. It's just way too expensive. It's actually a little *too* friendly. It has exactly 10 archetypes (one per color pair) and you would be ill advised to try much else. It's basically designed to be drafted a few times so they format seems made to be easily "solvable".
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vintagemasta
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posted May 26, 2015 05:58 PM
I have no plans to sell cards right now as the market is flooded but hopefully some will gain value over time. Overall I did enjoy the thrill of the unexpected and was pleased with the number of good mythics. However, I pulled NOTHING substantial in the way of foils- wildfire, wolfbriar elemental, and sunforger were the only rares. And 2 remands from 2 boxes (1 box had none!) was lame.
[Edited 4 times, lastly by vintagemasta on May 27, 2015]
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Volcanon
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posted May 26, 2015 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by vintagemasta:
I have no plans to sell cards right now as the market is flooded but hopefully some will gain value over time. Overall I did enjoy the thrill of the unexpected and was pleased with the number of good mythics. However, I pulled NOTHING substantial in the way of foils- wildfire and sunforger were the only rates. And 2 remands from 2 boxes (1 box had none!) was lame.
You did, however, get the foundational commons and uncommons for, like, ten different modern decks. Anybody else think that they should have printed the painlands as uncommons? They are less than quarter rares now because of Standard. But they have been reprinted to death and aren't playable in any format except T2.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Volcanon on May 26, 2015]
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dwiz
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posted May 26, 2015 07:01 PM
If you didn't get that gofy, we make have been talking you off a ledge right now.
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vintagemasta
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posted May 26, 2015 07:13 PM
Ha, maybe. Nah, it was fun regardless of loss. You have to expect opening packs will ultimately not make you money. All entertainment has a price. I just wanted to hear some opinions on what I pulled vs what it costs. I'd be interested to see what other people opened in the MM lottery.
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Rabid Wo1f
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posted May 26, 2015 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by vintagemasta:
Ha, maybe. Nah, it was fun regardless of loss. You have to expect opening packs will ultimately not make you money. All entertainment has a price. I just wanted to hear some opinions on what I pulled vs what it costs. I'd be interested to see what other people opened in the MM lottery.
I only bought 3 packs of it, but I got a bit of value. I got:
Dark Confidant 45
Mirror Entity (foil) 8
Breeder
raise the alarm foil
Hurks Recall
The packs were 10 something after tax locally. So assuming 10.50x3 31.50, I seem to have made out by about 20 bucks.
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caquaa
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posted May 26, 2015 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
If you didn't get that gofy, we make have been talking you off a ledge right now.
my boxes looked similar.... minus the goyf and bob. 2 down, not opening a third. I'll play limited tho because thats what I do.
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Rabid Wo1f
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posted May 27, 2015 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
my boxes looked similar.... minus the goyf and bob. 2 down, not opening a third. I'll play limited tho because thats what I do.
so what are you doing with the third lol
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ardeay
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posted May 27, 2015 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Demilio:
This is a good way of seeing the tcg low of everything.https://www.echomtg.com/set/MM2/modern-masters-2015-edition/
Thanks for sharing this. We just made an update that shows top losers / winners on the right hand side. Enjoy and let me know if you have any suggestions to make this page better. Best,
R
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rats60
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posted May 28, 2015 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by vintagemasta:
Ha, maybe. Nah, it was fun regardless of loss. You have to expect opening packs will ultimately not make you money. All entertainment has a price. I just wanted to hear some opinions on what I pulled vs what it costs. I'd be interested to see what other people opened in the MM lottery.
You pulled about 450.00 in money rares + the 2 remands. That's more than the boxes are currently worth sealed.
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revenger
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posted May 28, 2015 10:42 AM
I have not a clue to even where to buy single packs as this city doesn't have a lgs and I'm afraid to even think what Vegas lgs's arw charging. (If I was to I guess probably $15 or so a pack. )__________________
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Rabid Wo1f
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posted May 28, 2015 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by revenger:
I have not a clue to even where to buy single packs as this city doesn't have a lgs and I'm afraid to even think what Vegas lgs's arw charging. (If I was to I guess probably $15 or so a pack. )
Ha you could go third party with someone on here for them. My shop sells them at $10 each  I'm not sure if he has any left at the moment, but I will be playing magic tonight.
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Tim05
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posted May 28, 2015 11:35 AM
I think you did pretty darn well! I donno why everyone thinks you did awful. Opening a goyf out of two boxes is a win.No big foils, but still did pretty decent.
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hilikuS
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posted May 28, 2015 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by revenger:
I have not a clue to even where to buy single packs as this city doesn't have a lgs and I'm afraid to even think what Vegas lgs's arw charging. (If I was to I guess probably $15 or so a pack. )
I can ship some to ya if you want.
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Rabid Wo1f
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posted May 28, 2015 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Tim05:
I think you did pretty darn well! I donno why everyone thinks you did awful. Opening a goyf out of two boxes is a win.No big foils, but still did pretty decent.
Personally, I wouldn't consider those 2 boxes a win based on $240 a box (not what he paid he said). Assuming he spent $480 on both boxes, he will not make that back selling singles based on their current price. It could trend upwards and may gain value over the next couple of years. Really depends on the next MM set.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Rabid Wo1f on May 28, 2015]
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rats60
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posted May 28, 2015 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Rabid Wo1f:
Personally, I wouldn't consider those 2 boxes a win based on $240 a box (not what he paid he said). Assuming he spent $480 on both boxes, he will not make that back selling singles based on their current price. It could trend upwards and may gain value over the next couple of years. Really depends on the next MM set.
I wouldn't call it a loss either, more of a push. Unless it's a one box break with a Goyf, the only way to win is hit big foil(s). However, that's the way most magic boosters are.
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Rabid Wo1f
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posted May 28, 2015 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by rats60:
I wouldn't call it a loss either, more of a push. Unless it's a one box break with a Goyf, the only way to win is hit big foil(s). However, that's the way most magic boosters are.
agreed. I just answering Tim's question as to why people (myself included) thought it was bad. Breaking even isn't the worst thing that could happen though. He also stated that he opened the packs for entertainment. I mean as long as he had fun, it doesn't matter what any of us think.
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