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*Tedman*
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posted June 05, 2000 05:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for *Tedman* Click Here to Email *Tedman* Send a private message to *Tedman* Click to send *Tedman* an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Tedman's Tales, June 5:

Tedman Talks Trash- Again!

Hello again, friends. Today on Tedman's Tales, I'd like to kind of reiterate the topic of my first article, which was basically about people who don't think through their responses on an opinion-based post. If you'd like to read it, it's hopefully still there in the articles forum.

This time, instead of people who don't think through their responses, I want to talk about stupid people. Now, I'm not going to name names, but this is basically where I name a few instances in which I noticed where people were stupid, and it shouldn't really be hard to figure out who it was.

Example number one: Currently on the General Discussion board, a new member posted his first topic, which is (usually) your first impression. It's a really good way to make a good impression, especially in General Discussion. Now I'm not saying this guy is a complete moron, but the name of his post was "da-odd-templar is getting annoying." I don't know about anyone else, but that seemed a bit dumb. First off, how long has this guy been on MOTL? A few days, maybe? And how would he know all about da-odd-templar? Does he stalk him and know everything about him? No. If that was the case, I think he'd be justified to judge da-odd-templar as annoying, knowing everything annoying and not annoying he does. But a new member should never make a hate post towards an established member, especially when it's his first post.

Example number two: Also in General Discussion, there is a topic of a different nature. It has nothing to do with Magic in any way. It's subject title is "Everybody please come in here and read this, it's a difference of life and deat." When I first saw it, I thought "Ooh! This must be serious! I better get in there!" Expecting something serious and intelligent, I go in. What I find completely shocks me. It's basically a chain letter about a six-year-old girl with, get this, *lung cancer.* She wants, as a dying wish, to send out a chain letter telling people to live life to their fullest. Right... To the person who posted this: I'm really sorry, but that was such an obvious and blatant hoax that nobody could take this seriously. I've heard that story SO many times, and not once did I believe it, not even the first time. Also, I'm a very cynical person, so that contributes a bit.

Example number three: Now this is an instance where I can't actually remember what actually happened, but I certainly remember this happening a few times. Somebody on the Trade Auction/ Sales forum would post a topic with the name kinda like "Foil Masticore for T/A" or "T/A 4 Ports" or something like that. When you go in, interested, all it says is "I got 4 Ports for TA. I want dragons, elves, and good Type 2 and Type 1." That type of thing really cheeses me off. This person puts up no rules, no real wants with point values, and no lots! The common format for an auction is like this:

Post the rules,
Show the lots with cards, high bidder with bid, status, etc.
Wants with point values.

I don't know about other people, but that's what I recognize as the standard Trade Auction format. And when somebody like this idiot doesn't follow that format, it not only makes him/her look like a complete fool, but it is really inconvenient to all potential bidders who are interested in these 4 Ports.

Fourth and final example: Most people know this. Someone by the name of Dasnyper (I know I'm not supposed to name names, but this guy was an obvious ripper) posted a Trade Auction for a Beta Black Lotus, and, a Beta Mox Diamond. I think 40 or so people replied with rude and sometimes funny replies, like "I have a Foil Blastocore. I'll give it to you for your Beta Diamond, HAHAHAHAH!!!" Even though those are immature replies, this moron deserved it. Someone with any knowledge of the game would know that THERE IS NO BETA MOX DIAMOND!!!

Sorry for this unprecedented surprise rant, but things like that bug me, and like the immature little boy I am, I want the whole world to know that. Anyways, this is Tedman signing off.

 
Yawgmoth's Lackey
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posted June 05, 2000 06:32 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Yawgmoth's Lackey Click Here to Email Yawgmoth's Lackey Send a private message to Yawgmoth's Lackey Click to send Yawgmoth's Lackey an Instant MessageVisit Yawgmoth's Lackey's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Right on Ted! And something else that bugs me is people posting their have want list on your have want list. Man that really gets me!

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*Tedman*
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posted June 05, 2000 06:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for *Tedman* Click Here to Email *Tedman* Send a private message to *Tedman* Click to send *Tedman* an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Anyone who has pet peevs please post them here, too !
 
Superbeast
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posted June 05, 2000 08:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Superbeast Click Here to Email Superbeast Send a private message to Superbeast Click to send Superbeast an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Okay, pet-peeves it is:

Continuos use of the words "Duel Lands"... it's dual as in "more than one".

People who list wants but no haves, and vice versa. How are we supposed to consider a trade without knowing what they have/want.

New users who demand "out of US you send first". What? I live in the US, but this offends me. Why have refs? Why would a non-US citizen send first no matter what.

People who e-mail you when you say "post please". Also included, people who reply to an offer with "that will work" or other one liners without quoting.

The idea that commons for commons to get refs is okay.

When people hold a T/A with no minimum bid, pull the item, and never tell you that they want more.

Cussing at me for an offer. Hey, make a counter offer, or quote the message and say, "No thanks".

Running out of cigarettes and Mountain Dew when online here at MOTL.

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Glacier14
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posted June 06, 2000 05:32 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Glacier14 Click Here to Email Glacier14 Send a private message to Glacier14 Click to send Glacier14 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Glacier14's Have/Want ListView Glacier14's Have/Want List
Following what Superbeast said about people posting silly ules for Non U.S. Citizens, I came accross one post which read:

Only send in the U.S. Sorry, but I'm tired of stupid Canadian traders!

Interesing eh. I've never traded with this guy, but I'm Canadian, and according to him, Stupid.

Ignorance in such comments really boil my blood.

 
Fooath
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posted June 06, 2000 10:46 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Fooath Click Here to Email Fooath Send a private message to Fooath Click to send Fooath an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I like canadians. They are funny LITTLE men.

What I dont like? People ramming there opinions down others throats..

Dad laying the smackdown for every miniscule thing people do.(does give me something to read though... ). Reminds me of the Gestapo.

I like it when people post there wants first. That way I know if anything can go down.

 
DarkDamion
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posted June 06, 2000 07:35 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DarkDamion Click Here to Email DarkDamion Send a private message to DarkDamion Click to send DarkDamion an Instant MessageVisit DarkDamion's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
My Pet Peeves, oh the list can go on. My main ones are:

1.) People that agree to send first, but dont sent at all. On top of that, they dont answer emails, or they will tell you they traded it away.

2.) People that cry about not having refs. I believe it was one person on my little rant about ppl not sending when they send first, he said that all the ppl with high amount of refs are just as bad. Now im a person with a good amount of refs, but he said that all of his trades were with ppl with high amount of refs do the same thing, and he blamed us high ref ppl for him not having refs. Mainly the point being some ppl without refs, show a act of ignorance by crying and making up crap.

3.) Rippers, nuff said.

4.) People that go around saying a card sucks just cause they think it sucks, but dont know why it sucks or give some dumb excuse that it sucks.

5.) People that offer dumb offers. Now it may not affect me to much, but its kinda dumb to wake up, go on your comp, check your post, then you see, AH! acouple of posts, then you look, then you see my Llanowar Elves for your Port(not really, but I think you know what I mean.)

Well those are my 5 top Pet Peeves of MOTL. Oh and I believe that it was Superbeast that said it, that ppl that only post their wants, but not there haves, I do that all the time, for several reasons to. One being that I might be on a another comp and dont have my binder with me, or something of that nature. Dont always go on someone's throat for inmatieral stuff like that. If you have something they need, maybe you could post it. Maybe not, but its not really hurting you now is it, there is a little back button on the top left corner now isnt there

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Superbeast
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posted June 06, 2000 08:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Superbeast Click Here to Email Superbeast Send a private message to Superbeast Click to send Superbeast an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DarkDamion:
Oh and I believe that it was Superbeast that said it, that ppl that only post their wants, but not there haves, I do that all the time, for several reasons to. One being that I might be on a another comp and dont have my binder with me, or something of that nature. Dont always go on someone's throat for inmaterial stuff like that.


Go for the throat? I said it was a pet-peeve. I did not attack anyone, or say that it was god-awful bad. Just that it is a pet peeve. Reading more carefully would have told you that. Want no arguments, just stating an opinion. I hope this does not turn into an ugly argument over such a trivial matter. Besides, we are here for fun right?

 
DarkDamion
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posted June 06, 2000 09:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DarkDamion Click Here to Email DarkDamion Send a private message to DarkDamion Click to send DarkDamion an Instant MessageVisit DarkDamion's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I was just clearly stating that I do it, and for a good reason to. You say there is no way to get a trade out of it, I disagree with you. I have did it alot of times and get results from it. What is so wrong with ppl posting only there wants anyways.

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Superbeast
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posted June 06, 2000 09:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Superbeast Click Here to Email Superbeast Send a private message to Superbeast Click to send Superbeast an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
The reason I dislike it... Then I have to go digging into my haves list on my comp, copy it, go back here, and paste it. Too much hassle, so I hit <- Back instead. Now, there could be a good trade to be had for both parties. I usually keep a current have list in my e-mail account (hotmail) so no matter where I am I know what I have to trade or post.

Another misquote by you... I said "How are we supposed to consider a trade without knowing what they have/want?" NOT that a trade was impossible, but to consider a trade was tough. I can post my have and sit there and wait for a response...to which I usually get "I want you _____" end message. Then I have to re-write and ask what it is in reference too....argh!!! Enough. It is my pet peeve...I like it... I give it water and food and pet it so nice...I call him George you know.

 
DarkDamion
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posted June 06, 2000 10:00 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DarkDamion Click Here to Email DarkDamion Send a private message to DarkDamion Click to send DarkDamion an Instant MessageVisit DarkDamion's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Ok I understand, but your not like most ppl that like hate it, ive seen on some posts where they ignorantly tell them off for that kind of stuff, in which I dont like, but I really dont say anything about it at the same time.

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Leshrac
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posted June 08, 2000 01:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Leshrac Click Here to Email Leshrac Send a private message to Leshrac Click to send Leshrac an Instant MessageVisit Leshrac's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Fooath:
Dad laying the smackdown for every miniscule thing people do.(does give me something to read though... ). Reminds me of the Gestapo.

Have you ever seen auction boards/forums on other sites? For some reason, there's always a group of people who decides that they're going to spam their auction all over the place. I'm subscribed to WotC's trading digest (don't bother, it's not worth it) and for the past month I don't think there's been anything on there but auctions, even though there's another digest specifically for them! When someone suggests they take their auctions elsewhere, they just start swearing about how they'll do whatever they want. Well, I refuse to have that happen here, so the TA & Sales forum is tightly regulated. If you want to visit sites where auction spam dominates everything, you're more than welcome to.

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Quicksilver
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posted June 08, 2000 01:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Quicksilver Click Here to Email Quicksilver Send a private message to Quicksilver Click to send Quicksilver an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Heres my main pet peeves:
1) Rippers of course. I've been ripped off just a few times, so I'm more careful now.
2) This is my MAIN pet peeve. I hate this more than anything else, people as someone else said, saying I have no refs, you must send first. I have 30 references which I think is a decent amount, enough not to have to send first, especially to someone that has no references. That really gets to me
3) People as Glacier said who won't trade outside the U.S. I had a person who came to me and wanted these cards and said check out my list. I did and the first thing was "I only trade in the U.S". I immediately lost all interest in trading with that person. I'm Canadian and I will trade anywhere, why won't other people? I don't even understand why people don't trade overseas? I realize it takes longer but still....

Well thats all for me, thanks for reading.

 
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posted June 08, 2000 09:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for squizz Click Here to Email squizz Send a private message to squizz Click to send squizz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
My pet peeve (yes I'm gonna say it again) is new members with no refs insisting that well established traders have to send first. I also dislike being told I have to send first because I don't live in the US, especially by new members with no refs. How would they like it if I said "you don't live in Australia - you have to send first" - must remember to try that sometime...
 
Orinn
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posted June 09, 2000 02:04 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Orinn Click Here to Email Orinn Send a private message to Orinn Click to send Orinn an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Oh, boy... pet peeves.
people posting ridiculous offers, "foil mountain for your Port." ~ I'll get back to you on that.
Ppl whose haves are the same as their wants. I want Xx ports, have 2 ports for trade. Why post trades if you can just keep the ones you have?
And others who say things like "I have a Time Walk, but I'm not gonna trade it." Really, that's nice and all, but why are you posting it in a trading board?
Anyone who's rude and insulting on the board. We're all here to have fun, not curse and be foolish.

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bvery
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posted June 10, 2000 01:09 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for bvery Click Here to Email bvery Send a private message to bvery Click to send bvery an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Main pet peeve
Rippers. Nuff said.

Close second (well, not that close I suppose)
People who are so lazy/careless with typing that you can hardly understand what they are trying to communicate. Prime examples include: abbreviating/using shortcuts for almost everything, constant gross spelling errors, running words together, and having next to zero thought structure to their post/email. Man, typing is not exactly a stressful task, and people that are horribly sloppy with communication make you wonder if they're any more serious about trading. Or if anything they voice an opinion on is even worth a second thought. Some word or phrase abbreviations are well understood...no problems there, but some folks will even make up their own shortcuts expecting that you know exactly what they're talking about. I'm not even sure if they know what they're talking about sometimes!

 

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