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Topic: How to beat Blastoderm, 101
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MashedParsnips
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posted September 24, 2000 09:46 AM
      
OK, I'm no master, but as far as I know, Blastoderm will be the best creature in November's type 2, hands down, no questions asked. How to get rid of a turn 4, 5/5 untargetable guy is the problem. Lets start off with the colors and possible solutionsBLACK
Uhh... Massacre 3 times? Get real. THe only real thing that I can see happening here is 2nd and 3rd game sideboarded Perish. It's quick enough. Don't know what else could fit in here. BLUE
If you suspect your opponents about to play one, DON'T TAKE CHANCES. Leave your mana open for a counterspell. Otherwise, your gonna be in trouble. Blue also has a bunch of those chump blockers for 1 mana, like the new Faerie Squadron. GREEN
With Invasion out, green has some nice new fatties, like Molimo (I played him at the prerelease!) and the Ancient Treefolk Guy. (He's a 4/7). But Molimo costs 7, and the Treefolk guy costs 6. So the obvious answer is ANSWER WITH YOUR OWN. If your playing green and no Blastoderms, please allow me to kick you in your head. Green's got some nice chumps too, sometimes with regenerating. RED
Hoh boy. All of red's removal is now dead, 'cause 'derm's untargetable. If worse comes to worse, Earthquake for 5. WHITE
White looks to me to have the best chance of taking care of him. 3 Options I see are
1) Wrath of God. Easy enough, and it's a turn 4 card also.
2) Wave of Reckoning. Ehhhhh, sorta' good, I guess. It costs 5 though, and might not kill all your opponents guys.
3) Weenies with protection. NICE stuff here. With no trample, stick a Cho-Manno's blessing or something on a guy or something.
4) Oh, there's 4 - I forgot to mention Story Circle. Obvious what it does. Well, thats about it, please tell me your suggestions on how to deal with this MONSTER.
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mogg bomber
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posted September 24, 2000 02:19 PM
Red usually doesn't have a problem with Blastoderm. I have seen many of them taken out by Earthquakes, and even more importantly, double blocking with two Veteran Brawlers is very effective.__________________
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Fooath
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posted September 24, 2000 02:39 PM
ROUT! Man, I love that card!__________________
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underworld dreams
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posted September 24, 2000 03:31 PM
You can also chump block with squee against blastoderm..
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MashedParsnips
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posted September 24, 2000 06:35 PM
well, i dont know, ive never seen squee played. hes overrated__________________
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iakae
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posted September 25, 2000 08:21 AM
You know, in the MBC PTQs, I beat down many Blastoderms thanks to Thrashing Wumpus. Block the Derm, Thrash for 2. That equals dead Blastoderm. There's also the tried-and-true "Block with Nether Spirit" thing, and with the reprinting of Ravenous Rats, Sixth containing Stupor (see the discard theme here?), etc., Black is amazing against Blastoderm.As for Red, it does have a problem with Blastoderm...if Blastoderm gets into play. Ponza often doesn't allow four mana to get out on the board, especially the Ponza variants with Tangle Wire and/or Tectonic Break. The only color that has serious problems against Blastoderm is Blue, and that's if Blastoderm can get through the wall of counters. I'm in no way saying that Blastoderm is a bad creature (hell, I'm even using them in my Extended deck), but it's not the invincible beating machine that some people think. It's also definitely not the best creature in the coming T2 season (my money is on Thrashing Wumpus for that honor, or possibly Lin Sivvi).
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9430
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posted September 25, 2000 10:12 AM
Black? Not be able to kill a creature? Lol. Actually, there is a card in invasion that seems almost readymade for antiblastodermship. Do or Die. For 2 mana you can kill a blastoderm and sometimes some other stuff as well.
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spike85
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posted September 25, 2000 01:34 PM
White also have a good, old card that can really handle Blastoderm very easy. Of course I am talking for Righteousness but is is not in T2. with only one white mana, even a broken 1/1 can kill the blastoderm. Also there is Reverse Damage for white. With three mana, 5 life on turn 5th when the Blastoderm will attack. Then you have mana to cast a bigger creature that can handle Blastoderm. Also for Black with dark ritual and a Hidden Horror on 1st turn, can also handle Blastoderm. And of course Perish for SB.__________________
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Ertai4
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posted September 25, 2000 09:43 PM
Yea besides Persih you could use Thrashing Wumpus for Black or at least that is what I would do. White is definatly the best agaist 'derm because you can chump block or use wrath and have lots of options  Personally I would just play gree w/ 'derms to aviod the whole problem almost entirly  __________________
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razor2sharp
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posted September 27, 2000 01:11 PM
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phoenix
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posted September 30, 2000 11:10 AM
Blue is the only color that has problems with derms. Uncounterable 
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Fooath
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posted September 30, 2000 11:49 AM
Uncounterable?! HAH! your funny
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Maximus_Ar
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posted October 06, 2000 03:11 AM
Do or Die, nuff said__________________
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Fooath
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posted October 06, 2000 06:41 AM
Do or die? Well, I would personally choose the llanowar......or even the llanowar and something else. Sure I lose a couple creatures but I keep a 5/5 for a few turns.
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phoenix
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posted October 07, 2000 07:02 AM
I didn't think you could counterspell a blastoderm since it can't be the TARGET of SPELLS or abilities..
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Yawgatog
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posted October 07, 2000 03:48 PM
Blastoderm's abilities only work when it is in play.
If it were uncounterable, it would say either:Blastoderm cannot be countered. or Blastoderm cannot be the target of spells or abilities while it is on the stack.
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Fooath
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posted October 07, 2000 05:50 PM
It would say "Blastoderm can not be countered"You can still counter something that can't be the target of spells or abilities. You just cant counter it while it is in play.
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GogettaEX
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posted October 09, 2000 07:57 AM
 I play sligh...What do I do? It seems they constantly play 3 in a row against me. __________________
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Legend King
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posted October 09, 2000 06:15 PM
Gogetta just play Earthquake
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mtgwarren
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posted October 09, 2000 06:50 PM
Sure, there's a chance you could kill a blastoderm with do or die, if your opponent is on crack! Why not just choose the other pile (a bird, utopia tree, maybe even an empty pile)? The extremely under-rated answer to blastoderm (or any other untargettable, for that matter) is TARIFF.
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