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Originally posted by Thanos:
Fair enough, but I just wanted to point that out.

I'll also point out that our cop leaned toward voting for Bernek also.

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To me this feels like a deflection post. It also mimics his WIFOM post towards MM:

Bravo MM, Bravo.
Way to get the flock to follow you once again.

Both times now people had their minds made up and both times you've somehow got them to go your way.

Bernek with his confusion causing earlier and his make believe "life" for not posting while he posted everywhere else

I'm gonna say this now to everyone else, when I'm lynched and proven to be a cit, get MM next, then Bernek afterwards.

I don't know what else I can put out here to help (info wise), I thought both of their actions throughout the game sold them out.

Both of these counts would def suggest Mafia. It's not farfetched for MM to imply a sacrifce play with Thanos. He has done it in the past. Have Thanos go hardcore after MM and try to get MM revealed as a bad guy...

However, Fwy's all out attack on Thanos has me wondering. It's very hardcore. Then again, probably just wants this game over now.

I had Fwy and MM as my top 2 suspects. Seeing as MM kept away from Fwybwed. This also has a lot of weight on things. Fwy makes a good point towards Thanos about Dakrum not checking me.

I would def like to hear what the confirmed have to think about what's going on with this situation.

Wanna stick with Fwy but Thanos's play screams mafia...

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
Fwy makes a good point towards Thanos about Dakrum not checking me.

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Is anyone actually reading what people post?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
Is anyone actually reading what people post?

I didn't say that, and you're trying to create confusion yet again.

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YOu are trying to twist any of my words around to save yourself. You if no one else here knows me enough to believe, knows I started school again. Yet you try and use that against me. Then you try and say I am trying to cause confusion. There are some things that just shouldn't of been said this game. And I brought them up as I should.

You brought up about Dakrum saying he would come after me to try and get people to vote for me. TO get them off of you just like you didi with the MM vote. Now seeign as MM was mafia, it makes one wonder. Why the outburst like that at that point? It def got people to switch and allow you to yet again jump on another band wagon.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
YOu are trying to twist any of my words around to save yourself. You if no one else here knows me enough to believe, knows I started school again. Yet you try and use that against me. Then you try and say I am trying to cause confusion. There are some things that just shouldn't of been said this game. And I brought them up as I should.

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I called you out on it because you had no problems posting in Fantasy Baseball, your h/w list, other people's h/w lists, ect.

It seems convenient life got in the way right after all these confirmeds came out and the game was basically lost for the mafia.

As I said before, sounded like someone lost interest in the game.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:

It def got people to switch and allow you to yet again jump on another band wagon.

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So I jumped on the bandwagon of the person I came out right away and said I was voting for while everyone else was voting for me?

You wanna talk about suspicious play. You have not mentioned me this game til the end. Every other game where you are a cit you are targeting me in the beginning out by a passing post to always play the same. You didn't do it htis game. Why not??? Afraid to bring attention to yourself? You yourself posted all over the place, yet didnt post nearly as much as I have. So seeing as when you are texting me or calling me to let me know I'm up. I take a galnce at lists. But its easy to post about 20 words than 120 words on a cell phone.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
Posting from a cell phone is one thing, actually sitting on a phone and reading and trying to post is quite different. You are real qiuck to tell me I'm up and lmk when I have to make my pick. How many times have I told you I wasn't home when you let me know these things, HUH?

You wanna talk about suspicious play. You have not mentioned me this game til the end. Every other game where you are a cit you are targeting me in the beginning out by a passing post to always play the same. You didn't do it htis game. Why not??? Afraid to bring attention to yourself? You yourself posted all over the place, yet didnt post nearly as much as I have. So seeing as when you are texting me or calling me to let me know I'm up. I take a galnce at lists. But its easy to post about 20 words than 120 words on a cell phone.

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Point taken on the Draft picks, you're right, it's quick, on and off.

LOOKING OVER PEOPLE'S H/W LISTS IS NOT.

but you are putting it out there as leverage that we should vote Bernek....

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
I know you didnt say dat Thanos...but you put it out there as leverage...so i want the others to know that he didnt check bernek out...

but you are putting it out there as leverage that we should vote Bernek....

Cool by association

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Strange.

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If we're pushing a vote right now, I'm changing my vote to Thanos. That back and forth between him and MM right before the MM lynch looks more and more staged to me each time I look at it.

{VOTE: Thanos}

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Originally posted by SnapShot:
very well...

{Vote: Thanos}

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Can you detach yourself from Gawain's hip?

Seriously, this is at least the second time he's posted a vote and you posted immediately afterwards the same vote.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
Can you detach yourself from Gawain's hip?

Seriously, this is at least the second time he's posted a vote and you posted immediately afterwards the same vote.

I pointed out every reason to vote Bernek, and the cop pretty much agreed with me, but yet again people are gonna let some massive made up consipiracy cloud their better judgement.

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The Cop never used his night action on Bernek, therefore he knows no more about Bernek than I or anyone else except Bernek. So, his opinion on the matter holds no more weight than any of the other confirmed citizens.

And while I agree that Snapshot has been essentially voting as I do (or whichever confirmed Cit actually posts a vote), what's wrong with trying to reach a consensus? Isn't that what we always shoot for and seldom attain?

As to better judgment...what better judgment? At this point, we may as well just start offing one of the three of you each round until we hit the nail on the head. You're all almost equally suspicious, and while it would come down to a final round with 2 Cits and 1 Mafia, the lynch that round becomes pretty obvious, as the 2 remaining Cits would be confirmed.

So...yeah. I think my judgment is pretty good, and I'm sorry you feel otherwise. If you end up being a Cit, then my bad, but don't worry, our team will win and everything will be OK.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
I'm looking at it as it so stupidly obvious that Bernak is the last Mafia, how can no one else see it?

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*shrug* It's no more obvious than it is that you are, or that Fwyb is. I personally have reasons to suspect all of you.

@Snapshot: You know you can use your night action on yourself right? Granted, that's what the Mafia will expect, so they'll go for someone else, but just so you know. It's a gamble...bluff, double bluff, or double double bluff? You get to play that little game of roulette after the lynch

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I really believe that Bernek is the last mafia, and I'm voting for him.

I think everyone should do the same.

If he ends up being a cit, I will glady go to the noose next round.

Your defense is quite pursuasive...

I may switch my vote due reading some of Berneks posts over earlier...I want put this out there that:

Bernek stated the possibility of mid tier players but what has come to be so far MM and Mardak i would say he tried to lead us the wrong way....Thoughts????

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Originally posted by dakrum:
2) You know, the round isn't over yet. Even if you aren't sure about Tranderas or Mardak5150 or myself, Gawain is definitely the mason unless BoT actually says that he's the mason instead because BoT hasn't even said a single word at all since his vote.

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Originally posted by bernek77:
Why post this??? Are you trying to implement doubt? Gawain is def a Mason unless BoT comes out? What do we do if BoT posts he is the Cop and he gives us a different list? Meaning he is mafia and you put an Idea in his head?

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Bernek then posted in regards to Daks post on gawain as Mason and if BoT came out as mason...stating what if BoT came out as the cop....this to me was him trying to create doubt in our eyes to who IS the cop...IS Dak really the cop....and from the original post by Dak...Dak asks if Bernek still thinks the Mafia are Mid tier players? And i see no response from bernek on this question...hmmm

he later posts this:

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
No all I am saying is without BoT participating there is a slight chance for Gawain to not be a Mason.

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Dak sed the same thing and bernek asked him if he was trying to cast doubt...???

Why is it ok for bernek to cast doubt but not dak...?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
This game is won anyway, and I know everyone wants it to be over asap.

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Wrong. I couldn't care less, as long as it ends in time for Eric to set up Werewolf.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
@ Thanos...

Your defense is quite pursuasive...

I may switch my vote due reading some of Berneks posts over earlier...I want put this out there that:

Bernek stated the possibility of mid tier players but what has come to be so far MM and Mardak i would say he tried to lead us the wrong way....Thoughts????

Bernek then posted in regards to Daks post on gawain as Mason and if BoT came out as mason...stating what if BoT came out as the cop....this to me was him trying to create doubt in our eyes to who IS the cop...IS Dak really the cop....and from the original post by Dak...Dak asks if Bernek still thinks the Mafia are Mid tier players? And i see no response from bernek on this question...hmmm

he later posts this:

Dak sed the same thing and bernek asked him if he was trying to cast doubt...???

Why is it ok for bernek to cast doubt but not dak...?

Bernek77?

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Fwy really?

I suggested a mid tier player, do you not consider MM a mid-tier player. Or are you throwing me in there and saying all lower tier players. And I NEVER said that BoT could come out and claim that he was the cop. My statement was directed as if he was doubting Gawain as a mason. His statement is that Gawain is probably the Mason unless BoT comes out otherwise. Say it comes down to BoT, Gawain and any one of us 3. And Bot comes forth as the Mason... Is Gawain def Mafia, or does he have a hunch it is BoT and realized he just got quiet and tried to preserve a win for the Cits. It's all ifs and buts. My point is unless BoT comes out and says anything, you don't put something in his head in case he is Mafia(Which we know now to be untrue, but at the time didn't)

I never tried to create doubt however, Dak was putting in scenarios that did NOT have to be brought up. Fwy, your someone I would expect to even go with that, but you didn't. You are one to bring things up that shouldn't be brought up.

It's real convenient how you start the round off by saying your gonna vote for me. Then you get into it with Thanos, saying your switching your vote to Thanos. Now this horsecrap and your thinking about switching again. If this don't stand out then nothing does.

I'm sticking with Fwybwed as the last member!

{VOTING: Fwybwed}

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I suggested a mid tier player, do you not consider MM a mid-tier player.

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No I don't. I like to think of MM as a high level player not your run of the mill voter/casual poster. tho he plays that way sometimes....

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
And I NEVER said that BoT could come out and claim that he was the cop.

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Really?

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
What do we do if BoT posts he is the Cop and he gives us a different list?

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To me this sounds like you are? It doesnt matter to me about your actual point its the fact that you were trying to raise doubt in Dak'...WHY!!!?

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
My point is unless BoT comes out and says anything, you don't put something in his head in case he is Mafia(Which we know now to be untrue, but at the time didn't)

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So again why is not ok for Dak to do this but its ok for you....you posted the SAME thing Dak posted...in regards to BoT as possible mason....???

The thing that I noticed between the 3 of us remaining wild cards...

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
It's real convenient how you start the round off by saying your gonna vote for me. Then you get into it with Thanos, saying your switching your vote to Thanos. Now this horsecrap and your thinking about switching again. If this don't stand out then nothing does.

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Is that both Thanos and I are willing to get the neck tie...Im willing to go down I sed this...I also offered myself to Dak for investigation...you are getting very defensive...and please dont go and post that you are willing to take the noose on my account