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speechjew
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posted February 16, 2012 02:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for speechjew Click Here to Email speechjew Send a private message to speechjew Click to send speechjew an Instant MessageVisit speechjew's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
time for a new thread
 
daner
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posted February 16, 2012 02:09 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View daner's Have/Want ListView daner's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by daner:
This needs it's own post.

League id # 54609
pw = motl(all lower case)

GO.
SIGN.
UP.
NOW!



 
pugowar
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posted February 16, 2012 05:02 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for pugowar Click Here to Email pugowar Send a private message to pugowar Click to send pugowar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View pugowar's Have/Want ListView pugowar's Have/Want List
As promised.
The statistical review of how we are doing.

These ratings are based on the average rating of the top 30 Fantasy Baseball "Experts". The number is where you drafted a player vs where the "experts" said you should have had drafted him.

A negative number means you reached and a positive number means you got him later than the experts would have picked him.

The larger the positive number the better your picks. The larger the negative number the more you reached on your picks.

Without further ado:

Greven53
Biggest Steal: Brett Gardner +56
Biggest Reach: Jordan Zimmermann -12
Overall +213 (This means on average he got a given player 14 picks later than the experts would have gotten them!)

MAB_Rapper
Biggest Steal: Ike Davis +36
Biggest Reach: Michael Cuddyer -24
Overall +15 (This means on average he got a given player 1 pick later than the experts would have gotten them!)

Demilio
Biggest Steal: Dan Haren +32
Biggest Reach: Emilio Bonifacio -82
Overall +5 (This means on average he got a given player just about where the experts would have gotten them!)

Daner
Biggest Steal: Brian Wilson +11
Biggest Reach: Jhonny Peralta -86
Overall -343 (This means on average he got a given player 24 picks before the experts would have gotten them!)

Bernek77
Biggest Steal: Mariano Rivera +33
Biggest Reach: Justin Morneau -87
Overall -134 (This means on average he got a given player 9 picks before the experts would have gotten them!)

Montague
Biggest Steal: Drew Storen +32
Biggest Reach: Huston Street -21
Overall +83 (This means on average he got a given player 5 picks after the experts would have gotten them!)

Speechjew
Biggest Steal: Jason Heyward +38
Biggest Reach: Derek Holland -45
Overall +96 (This means on average he got a given player 6 picks after the experts would have gotten them!)

mattw
Biggest Steal: Aramis Ramirez +13
Biggest Reach: Nyjer Morgan -215
Overall -785 (This means on average he got a given player 56 picks before the experts would have gotten them!)

hammr7
Biggest Steal: Craig Kimbrel +25
Biggest Reach: Johan Santana -151
Overall -188 (This means on average he got a given player 13 picks before the experts would have gotten them!)

hilikuS
Biggest Steal: Brandon Phillips +28
Biggest Reach: Jayson Werth -18
Overall 35 (This means on average he got a given player 2 picks after the experts would have gotten them!)

pugowar
Biggest Steal: Daniel Hudson +31
Biggest Reach: Jimmy Rollins -19
Overall 117 (This means on average he got a given player 8 picks after the experts would have gotten them!)

Thanos
Biggest Steal: Matt Garza +25
Biggest Reach: Bryce Harper -156
Overall -440 (This means on average he got a given player 31 picks before the experts would have gotten them!)



[Edited 1 times, lastly by pugowar on February 16, 2012]

 
mattw
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posted February 17, 2012 05:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mattw Click Here to Email mattw Send a private message to mattw Click to send mattw an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mattw's Have/Want ListView mattw's Have/Want List
I'm kind of number one. Just start counting from the bottom.

wooo!!! number 1 !!!

 
hammr7
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posted February 17, 2012 09:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hammr7 Click Here to Email hammr7 Send a private message to hammr7 Click to send hammr7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Just remember that many (most?) of the "experts" are making choices for Leagues that aren't head-to-head, accumulate stats over an entire year, have weekly (rather than daily) roster changes, and have different roster configurations.

Having said all that, it will be great to again prove all those experts wrong.

According to the numbers above, as a "League" we are collectively horrible, since the overall league rating is around -1,300. Three possibilities for this dilemma include:

1. Maybe the experts included players of no use this year (like a certain Detroit catcher)?
2. Maybe the calculation formula for our league "ratings" is somehow askew?
3. We really are that bad?

[Edited 2 times, lastly by hammr7 on February 17, 2012]

 
pugowar
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posted February 17, 2012 10:09 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for pugowar Click Here to Email pugowar Send a private message to pugowar Click to send pugowar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View pugowar's Have/Want ListView pugowar's Have/Want List
That all said, a couple big reaches can really throw off your totals. I would think on average we really aren't that far off the experts. There are just a number of players we each probably like and want to make sure we get.

In order to do that you need to pick them early.

 
Montague
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posted February 17, 2012 12:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Montague Click Here to Email Montague Send a private message to Montague Click to send Montague an Instant MessageVisit Montague's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Michael - I sent you a PM.
 
daner
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posted February 17, 2012 12:43 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View daner's Have/Want ListView daner's Have/Want List
trade

I give my

16th
21st


I get

mattw's 15th(from pugowar)
23rd

 
Thanos
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posted February 17, 2012 04:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
That's right, keep taking the closers, I'll keep stock piling the SPs.
 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
That's right, keep taking the closers, I'll keep stock piling the SPs.

Dude...there are only 30 closers, there are still about 30 SPs I'd still like to have on my team.

 
Thanos
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posted February 17, 2012 05:52 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Haters gonna hate...
 
daner
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posted February 17, 2012 05:57 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View daner's Have/Want ListView daner's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Haters gonna hate...

well people are really gonna hate me when i get home and post the list just to show you....can't be too mad if i name a guy you want. its round 16 and im about to name 30 guys...


EDIT: ....without further delay, my list of 30 guys(in no specific order) who I'd still be fine if they were a part of my roster. Remember, I already have 5 SP's and it's round 16.

Chad Billingsly
Doug Fister
Wandy Rodriguez
Erik Bedard
Ivan Nove
Roy Oswalt
Jake Peavy
Jair Jurrjens
Ervin Santana
Johnathan Sanchez
Ryan Dempster
Gavid Floyd
Mark Bueherle
Trevor Cahill
Mike Minor
Jake Arrieta
Clay Buchholz
John Danks
Phil Humber
Mike Leake
Homer Bailey
Juan Nicasio
Jacob Turner
Bud Norris
Ted Lilly
Francisco Liriano
Jonathan Niese
Brandon McCarthy
Dallas Braden
A.J. Burnett
Charlie Morton
Ryan Vogelsong
Jason Vargas
Kyle Lohse
Jeff Niemann
Colby Lewis
Kyle Drabek
Edwin Jackson


....That's almost 40 guys I would mind having as a #6 to add depth. So um, yea, don't take any closers....please keep pecking away at a limitless pool of serviceable SP's

[Edited 1 times, lastly by daner on February 17, 2012]

 
Thanos
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posted February 17, 2012 06:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Ray's gonna have your head for posting that...
 
pugowar
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posted February 18, 2012 07:29 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for pugowar Click Here to Email pugowar Send a private message to pugowar Click to send pugowar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View pugowar's Have/Want ListView pugowar's Have/Want List
Looking to move up into this round.
Anyone interested in dropping back a bit?
 
pugowar
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posted February 18, 2012 07:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for pugowar Click Here to Email pugowar Send a private message to pugowar Click to send pugowar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View pugowar's Have/Want ListView pugowar's Have/Want List
Matt and I have worked out a trade!

I give:
18th round (206)
20th round (230)

Matt gives:
16th round (185)
22nd round (257)

 
Thanos
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posted February 19, 2012 07:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Next?
 
pugowar
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posted February 20, 2012 04:51 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for pugowar Click Here to Email pugowar Send a private message to pugowar Click to send pugowar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View pugowar's Have/Want ListView pugowar's Have/Want List
quote:
I trade up and take Kenley Jansen LAD RP


Ok so seriously would anyone have taken him in the next 15 picks or did I not need to trade up to get him?

15/9 k/inning ratio?!? Dude is sick.

Of course he is also 2nd in line for saves for a team that could lose 100 games this year.

 
hammr7
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posted February 20, 2012 07:27 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hammr7 Click Here to Email hammr7 Send a private message to hammr7 Click to send hammr7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:

Ok so seriously would anyone have taken him in the next 15 picks or did I not need to trade up to get him?

15/9 k/inning ratio?!? Dude is sick.

Of course he is also 2nd in line for saves for a team that could lose 100 games this year.


It is way too soon to pick up on closer-wannabees. Of course, I'm speaking from a position of already having 3 closers. In prior years, when you only needed 7 or 10 IPs per week, and when K/IP was a point category, a guy like him would have been extremely relevant. But with a 20 IP per week requirement, pitchers that might only throw 1 or 2 innings in a week had better be closers, or be one of your final picks.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by hammr7:
It is way too soon to pick up on closer-wannabees. Of course, I'm speaking from a position of already having 3 closers. In prior years, when you only needed 7 or 10 IPs per week, and when K/IP was a point category, a guy like him would have been extremely relevant. But with a 20 IP per week requirement, pitchers that might only throw 1 or 2 innings in a week had better be closers, or be one of your final picks.

I disagree. If I take a bunch of good relief picthers and have bench of nothing but starters, I will never fail to hit 20 IP a week. Oops, there goes my strategy.

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speechjew
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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:

Ok so seriously would anyone have taken him in the next 15 picks or did I not need to trade up to get him?

15/9 k/inning ratio?!? Dude is sick.

Of course he is also 2nd in line for saves for a team that could lose 100 games this year.


it's a better strategy in roto, taking 3 middle relievers who balance out to an elite starter.

edit: I think we're off the path with draft order. Dane, care to clear things up?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by speechjew on February 20, 2012]

 
pugowar
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posted February 20, 2012 10:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for pugowar Click Here to Email pugowar Send a private message to pugowar Click to send pugowar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View pugowar's Have/Want ListView pugowar's Have/Want List
Yeah i think Monty was up. Matt traded me his pick.
Matt let us know if you wanted to keep that pick and not trade and I can retract my pick. I would hate for you to miss out on Kazmir


[Edited 1 times, lastly by pugowar on February 20, 2012]
 
hilikuS
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quote:
Originally posted by speechjew:
it's a better strategy in roto, taking 3 middle relievers who balance out to an elite starter.

edit: I think we're off the path with draft order. Dane, care to clear things up?


Well it's been like 600 days so everybody is technically up at this point, right?

 
Thanos
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posted February 20, 2012 08:37 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bernek77:
Vanimal SP Philadelphia Phillies


Stop drafting people off of my team dip****.

 
mattw
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Ya, i'm clearly on drugs or something. Daner can just put me down for Kazmir for my next available pick. Sorry guys
 
Thanos
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posted February 21, 2012 08:06 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
Ya, i'm clearly on drugs or something. Daner can just put me down for Kazmir for my next available pick. Sorry guys

You want to draft him again?

 

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