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paragondave
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posted March 10, 2013 09:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for paragondave Click Here to Email paragondave Send a private message to paragondave Click to send paragondave an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View paragondave's Have/Want ListView paragondave's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Bernek77:
I feel as though Shron is the obvious choice over Yaku. It's very easy for us to think Shron and yaku. All the while it could be you and rev. While I do feel as though this is unlikely. I do feel as though Shron's post is the most obvious to being a wolf. I'd rather grab the obvious choice then figure out the last wolf. People look into the post I quoted and read into it as you will.

I read into it that you think Shron, me, Rev and Yak could all be wolves. What am I missing?


 
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No that I think Shron is more obvious than Yaku. I agree Yaku is alive and probably should be offed by now. But what if that's the wolves plan. They left BM alive hoping to get another pile on him. What if they know the suspicion is there and instead of killing him themselves they leave it to us. They have no reason to.

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They're both wolves dude.
 
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So it seems the consensus is that yaku and shron are both wolves. As long as all the villagers vote for the same person, this game should be won.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
Note of Interest: Yaku and Shron have made no posts yet. It's just been us 'villagers' left.

It's been ONE hour. Give me a second to read. I took a break to eat dinner just awhile ago.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
It's been ONE hour. Give me a second to read. I took a break to eat dinner just awhile ago.

yak, you forgot to set your clock forward an hour. It's been just over 2 and....please proceed.

 
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6:54 to 10:28.

Nice hour.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
6:54 to 10:28.

Nice hour.


Where is the 6:54 at?

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quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
6:54 to 10:28.

Nice hour.


Meddling Mage posted the results at 8:12 PM

At 9:41 PM, you posted:

quote:


Note of Interest: Yaku and Shron have made no posts yet. It's just been us 'villagers' left.


Sorry, I'm SO far off. An hour and a half between his post and you noting that I didn't post anything.

Like I said, I wasn't monitoring this thread constantly and I was waiting for MM to post something after paragondave noted there was a miscount. *About* an hour later, you give me a hard time for not posting as much as everyone else.

 
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posted March 10, 2013 06:44 PM (MM's new post)

posted March 10, 2013 10:28 PM (yakus post)

posted March 10, 2013 11:27 PM (bernek post)

Might be different on your computer?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
yak, you forgot to set your clock forward an hour. It's been just over 2 and....please proceed.

My point is that earlier in the game, TWELVE hours went by without anyone and were was the outrage then?

I miss posting something in a one or maybe TWO hour interval, when I was getting something to freakin' eat and you guys pile over me.

What the... ?!

 
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Let's get back to arguing over who's a wolf. I could care less if our wolves can tell time or not.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
posted March 10, 2013 06:44 PM (MM's new post)

posted March 10, 2013 10:28 PM (yakus post)

posted March 10, 2013 11:27 PM (bernek post)

Might be different on your computer?


He made a post after 8PM, right?

Am I the only one seeing that?

6:44 PM - starts the thread

6:45 PM, posts the vote count (incorrect)

7:13 - dave points out that it's wrong

8:12 - MM corrects it.

There's suddenly a flurry of posts after that and I missed it and now everyone's on my case tonight because I didn't post right away and I can't tell time, apparently.

 
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Yak, did you just delete and repost?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
Yak, did you just delete and repost?

Yes, I forgot to count MM's original post when I was counting all the times he posted and I didn't want to get extra flak for that, so I deleted that post.

My point is that MM's most recent post wasn't at 6PM.

 
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I personally did not just start piling all over you, I've been suspicious of you for awhile.

I don't have a problem with you eating, just don't eat me.

I don't care if you can tell time.

I just want to see your next game related post that will convince me that you are not a wolf. I expect it to be noteworthy, so please don't disappoint.

 
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I'm sorry, I read your post as being snarky and sarcastic. If I read too much into that, I apologize.

I thought you were saying, "hey, if yak can't tell time, I don't care. I still think he's a wolf."

I found that first half insulting, but upon re-reading, I think my judgment was wrong. Sorry about that.

I've said for pages now that if you think I've a wolf, I can respect that and your logical process is fine, but I think this is a dangerous path to lead down that if I am alive during the game, it's proof that I'm a wolf. My reasoning from last time still stands and I don't feel it's change significantly since then. If you think that me simply existing in the game is reason enough to vote for me, then okay, I can't fight the fact that I am still within the game. I don't know of an argument against that. And this doesn't bode well if I ever play again as wolves can choose to just not eat me knowing this tactic will work quite well to just leave me alive and people will lynch me knowing I should be dead already.

I think in general, people give me to much credit and assume just because I am right in other contexts outside of this game, I am making correct conclusion in this game as well. I throw out crazy theories all the time, and I'm wrong just as much as other people, especially just given the odds. If there's 3 people among 15 or so, there's an 80% chance I'll pick the wrong person, but my successes are viewed as my ability to reason correctly and my failures are viewed as me manipulating the game, which I think is rather unfair. Other people made lots of wrong assumptions but I feel singled out as if I couldn't possibly be making errors and if I were a villager, I'd be such a threat to the wolves that they'd eat me right away. So, therefore, I must be a wolf.

Right or wrong, this sets an unsettling precedent that the longer you play, the more you have to fight the fact that you're either a wolf or a good lynch target regardless of what you actually DO in the game. I don't know how to argue that maybe I'm playing badly, maybe I'm not that insightful and smart when it comes to this game, and maybe just the fact that I'm still playing isn't a smoking gun that I'm a wolf.

If you were in my position, and you knew 100% that you were innocent, what would you say?

 
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I would and have said pretty much the same thing. And if I were a wolf, ditto. The fact that there were 11 straight villager kills speaks very highly for whoever the wolves wind up being. If the villagers win this game, I personally believe that it was sheer luck that we got Evil-C. As has been stated here, who the wolves eat next may help us out unless they decide to throw us a curve and one eats the other. Now that would be crafty!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
I'm sorry, I read your post as being snarky and sarcastic.

That happens a lot. I did not intend to be insulting or disrespectful to you at all. I have nothing but respect for you in and outside of this game. I was merely aiming for a bit of humor and unfortunately my humor is often poorly stated or poorly received and as such misinterpreted. I often think I'm funny when I'm probably not.

 
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I feel as though Yaku has not put any effort into trying to defend himself as a wolf. and I will vote that way after the night kill. I still say Shron should be first but either way that's at least 3 votes. and should be enough then follwed by 2 votes for Shron and we win.

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Pogglesworth Mayor here, update on who the wolfs eat will be when? later tonight? My sheriff (paragondave) has pretty much summed it up. I do have 1 question for Mr. Bernek: why shron first b4 yaku? Sure shron nor yaku is not defending themseleves as usual, just quiet for the most part. Shron is next on the lynch list, just maybe I want some clarity on why him. idk.

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Pogglesworth Mayor here, update on who the wolfs eat will be when? later tonight? My sheriff (paragondave) has pretty much summed it up. I do have 1 question for Mr. Bernek: why shron first b4 yaku? Sure shron nor yaku is not defending themseleves as usual, just quiet for the most part. Shron is next on the lynch list, just maybe I want some clarity on why him. idk.


I feel like Shron's sticking up for Evil-C is more hardcore than Yaku. Not that Yaku not defending himself looks even more guilty. I'm just afraid that Yaku has given up and if he isn't the last wolf that we are playing right into their hands. I know the kill I'd make if I were the wolves but we have to wait and see.

I have stood by BM since the slip up. I know that I started the game late it's just that I know that a wolf wouldn't make that mistake that soon. especially right after the kill. I have trusted him up to this point and feel as though the wolves made a mistake by leaving him alive. Can't try and get piles again after it failed twice. With out the NK to happen yet and nothing from Shron or Yaku I feel like it should just be that order just in case something else pops up.

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Also I still have my doubts about Paragondave till the game is over. I know he has given his reasons up to htis point why he didn't start talking to after the seer was gone but to me that still screams wolf. I know I could be tunneling but with good merit.

Right now my list goes.

SHRON
Yaku/Dave
Revenger
BM
Me

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quote:
Originally posted by Bernek77:
Also I still have my doubts about Paragondave till the game is over. I know he has given his reasons up to htis point why he didn't start talking to after the seer was gone but to me that still screams wolf. I know I could be tunneling but with good merit.

Right now my list goes.

SHRON
Yaku/Dave
Revenger
BM
Me


right, and then there's the fact that all 3 of THEM voted for me same round, where if they had killed me, game over.

My quiet play, early on, during all the paranoia and confusion is much more suspicious than that. You are daft sir if you still think me a wolf and it's only making you look more suspicious again. We quite possibly may pull off a last inning upset unless you screw it up.

Guys, it doesn't matter which one goes first as long as we get one of them and he IS a wolf. Then we get the other one. sheeesh.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bernek77:
Also I still have my doubts about Paragondave till the game is over. I know he has given his reasons up to htis point why he didn't start talking to after the seer was gone but to me that still screams wolf. I know I could be tunneling but with good merit.

Right now my list goes.

SHRON
Yaku/Dave
Revenger
BM
Me


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