Ex:
Trader A: (confirms)
Trader A: Actually, I don't want to confirm for X reason.
Trader B: (confirms)

Is this a confirmed trade or no? If so, how long has to pass for the confirmation to expire? I assume that if a person confirms a trade with an inactive user, at SOME point it's not valid.

Ex:
Trader A: (confirms)
(Trader B stops responding for some reason)
--two weeks later--
Trader B: (confirms) Sorry I lost internet service for two weeks!
Trader A: I didn't hear from you for two weeks so I traded the cards to someone else!

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Scenario one is a bit of a gray area, but I think most people would let it slide if Trader A had a good enough reason.

Scenario two would pretty much just have Trader B being kind of a jerk about the situation. Trader A likely should have sent out a reminder email after 48 hours of sending their address, then a follow-up email saying they consider the trade void after about the one-week mark.

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Scenario 1, Trader A decided to back out of a potential trade before an agreement from both side was made, so there is no confirmed trade here.

Scenario 2, the time it took Trader B to confirm the trade is beyond reasonable, so the trade is not confirmed as well.

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Originally posted by junichi:
I would considered both of those not confirmed.

Scenario 1, Trader A decided to back out of a potential trade before an agreement from both side was made, so there is no confirmed trade here.

Scenario 2, the time it took Trader B to confirm the trade is beyond reasonable, so the trade is not confirmed as well.

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In scenario 1, what if trader b sent a message to trader a saying this:

Hey I saw you had a bayou for sale for $100. I could offer $103 shipped with tracking and would like you to send first due to our ref differences. Let me know.

Then trader a responds that he would like to do that deal. The next day, before trader b can respond, trader a backs out.

Seems like a confirmed deal to me if a agreed to b's offer and sending first. In this case we have an offer and acceptance. Why would this not be confirmed (only because of an address)?

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Originally posted by OGB:
In scenario 1, what if trader b sent a message to trader a saying this:

Hey I saw you had a bayou for sale for $100. I could offer $103 shipped with tracking and would like you to send first due to our ref differences. Let me know.

Then trader a responds that he would like to do that deal. The next day, before trader b can respond, trader a backs out.

Seems like a confirmed deal to me if a agreed to b's offer and sending first. In this case we have an offer and acceptance. Why would this not be confirmed (only because of an address)?

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As long as B hasn't given A his/her address, the trade is not confirmed.

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Originally posted by Sending Rule:
If one party is sending first, then the trade is confirmed once you have agreed on sending arrangements and when the trader who is receiving first sends their address.

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3 conditions must exist for a trade to be confirmed:
A specific deal must be agreed to.
Sending order must be established.
The address of the person receiving first, or both addresses in the case of a simul-send must be received by the other part.

If both addresses haven't been exchanged and someone asks to cancel, then the "specific deal must be agreed to" condition is no longer met.

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