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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Resting day.. now what I'm supposed to watch?

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World cup replays!

(See you all Tuesday, once I'm caught up on the action.)

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RIP Ari

I hope Greece wins now. I think we have a better chance against them then against Costa Rica.

Brazil lucked out again last night, was rooting for Chile. Colombia was better than Uruguay and deserved to win.

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Originally posted by chaos021:
Suarez's punishment is ridiculous. I don't understand why FIFA is punishing him at the club level, and the length and scope of the punishment seems insane for what actually transpired, including the history. Just consider, for a moment, all the Oscars (and yellow cards) that should've been handed out for flopping. The worst that would've happened for any of them is a 1-game suspension essentially, but we're gonna kick Suarez, his club team and his family in the jimmy super hard for something that didn't even gain him or his team an advantage. Christ. Did the guy draw blood? Was there an actual attempt at cannibalism on the field?

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Originally posted by chaos021:
Suarez's punishment is ridiculous. I don't understand why FIFA is punishing him at the club level, and the length and scope of the punishment seems insane for what actually transpired, including the history. Just consider, for a moment, all the Oscars (and yellow cards) that should've been handed out for flopping. The worst that would've happened for any of them is a 1-game suspension essentially, but we're gonna kick Suarez, his club team and his family in the jimmy super hard for something that didn't even gain him or his team an advantage. Christ. Did the guy draw blood? Was there an actual attempt at cannibalism on the field?

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Flopping is why I can't take soccer seriously.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Comparing an assult to flopping is apples to oranges, while I agree the penalty seems harsh, your comparison here is way off.

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How is rules enforcement in both situations apples to oranges? If that's the case, was he ever warned in prior biting incidents? Was there a suspension of shorter term? Hell is it even in the rule book? Are we just gonna lump it in with "dangerous play"? What's the rationale for the punishment? I've seen horrible slide tackles from behind that have ended careers, the most one guy got was a red card, which translated to a 2 or 3 game suspension.

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How is rules enforcement in both situations apples to oranges? If that's the case, was he ever warned in prior biting incidents? Was there a suspension of shorter term? Hell is it even in the rule book? Are we just gonna lump it in with "dangerous play"? What's the rationale for the punishment? I've seen horrible slide tackles from behind that have ended careers, the most one guy got was a red card, which translated to a 2 or 3 game suspension.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chaos021:
How is rules enforcement in both situations apples to oranges? If that's the case, was he ever warned in prior biting incidents? Was there a suspension of shorter term? Hell is it even in the rule book? Are we just gonna lump it in with "dangerous play"? What's the rationale for the punishment? I've seen horrible slide tackles from behind that have ended careers, the most one guy got was a red card, which translated to a 2 or 3 game suspension.

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I think your reading comprehension is very poor.

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I think your reading comprehension is very poor.

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No it is fine, it is your understanding of the situation that is lacking, He bit a player, that is seperate from plays like tackelnig etc in the middle of competetion, there is no other intent here but to try to hurt someone. It was also his third offense for biting which was taken into consideration here, if you had bothered to read about this the commitee explained why the penalty was so harsh. Also he denied doing it to the panel (has now admitted it) claiming he fell into his opponent and accidently had his teeth touch him that also impacted the severity of the penalty. Does it seem excessive? yes, but there was history here most probably don't know about unless they are hardcore soccer fans, so maybe he did dseserve this.

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You don't have to be that hardcore about it. I remember the last one that hit major soccer news outlets last year. I didn't know anything about the first incident. I also read the news report of the ruling. If you watch soccer, there are things people do all the time with nothing but ill-intent even though it looks like a "play." What I'm saying is that I find it hard to believe none of the refs on the field saw anything while Uruguay was attacking right before the cross was sent. This is where red cards and PKs are made. Yet, nothing happened on the field. I don't even remember the ref talking to Suarez. I don't care how you cut it, he shouldn't have completed that game or played in the next one due to a red card. On top of that, since this was international play, why is he being punished at other levels? Want to keep him out of other international play through the next 10 World Cups? Fine. That makes sense. Keep him out of club soccer? I'm pretty sure that is for the EPL/Champion's League/UEFA to determine, or are you telling me if I take a Bruce Lee flying side kick at a goalkeeper in an international friendly/match, I'm gonna get banned from playing with Man U two weeks from then? I'm willing to put money on "no." I could even see getting a ban from CHampion's League and UEFA since they are international play at the club level. However, if you want to treat this as a legal assault, then shouldn't he be handed over to a court? The evidence is all over the internet.

Let me put it this way, that would be like someone at the Olympics telling Paul Pierce he will miss the next 14 games of the NBA season and isn't allowed to play international basketball for the next 3 months for clotheslining Tony Parker at an international game. How does it make any sense to tell David Stern (while he was commissioner) and the Celtics organization that he can't play NBA games for something that had nothing to do with the NBA? Now if the David Stern applies his own penalties via the NBA's conduct policy or what have you, he can knock himself out. Otherwise, I guess I'm missing something.

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Originally posted by flophaus:
I knew USA wouldn't win.... but they seemed a bit more lively than they did in group play... that being said, this whole damn tourney they've given up WAYYYY too many shots on goal. I have to go outside and take a breather when watching them because I nearly have a heart attack!

All in all, the US did better than 16 other teams, so I am OK with it. Maybe in 20 years we might actually be contenders. GG Belgium. You earned it Now I'm like "GO BELGIUM!"

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Originally posted by flophaus:
I knew USA wouldn't win.... but they seemed a bit more lively than they did in group play... that being said, this whole damn tourney they've given up WAYYYY too many shots on goal. I have to go outside and take a breather when watching them because I nearly have a heart attack!

All in all, the US did better than 16 other teams, so I am OK with it. Maybe in 20 years we might actually be contenders. GG Belgium. You earned it Now I'm like "GO BELGIUM!"

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Go Colombia!

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RIP Ari

Belgium just got kicked out. Never had a chance. Neither did Argentina though, they just played catenaccio and won. Good goal by Higuain though.

Only 2 more hours until we're up! Go Orange!

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RIP Ari

I held my breath when I saw he would be taking a penalty. Only thing he did right.

Wednesday the clash vs. Argentina! Last time we encountered them on a WC we won by a brilliant pass of Frank de Boer handled majestically by Bergkamp. Now THAT was a striker.

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