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Valmtg
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posted December 05, 2006 11:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Valmtg Click Here to Email Valmtg Send a private message to Valmtg Click to send Valmtg an Instant MessageVisit Valmtg's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
With all the recent inquiries about not only very high dollar Magic cards being reproduced and faked to fool the average buyer/trader, even average or just the older OOP cards are now being mass produced to sell off in larger quantities and these ripoff scam artists are making even more money because these fakes can go undetected since people wouldn't expect $20-$50+ dollar cards to be fake.

I'm proposing that MOTL have a page dedicated for the average or new Magic player to have a detailed visual guide of what to look for when they want to buy or trade for OOPs and high dollar cards. There are a good few MOTLers who have had experience and can identify fake cards very easily and I'm sure it would be great for a member to have a link to a section of the site that would give a very descritpive and detailed guide to what to look out for and have a comparison of what a real card should look like. I'm sure that the more seasoned veterans of this site may have some fake cards in their possession and could post why the card is fake and what was their experiences and how they can tell a lot easier from high-resolution scans so that they don't have to have the card actually in their hand.

Now, I know there's a few sites out there that have a general guide how to identify fakes, but I'm sure with the amount of people we have on here and the experience over the years in identifying fakes, we would be able to compile a better site and have more pictures to show what is and isn't real.

Just a suggestion, but what do you people think?

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jeb
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posted December 05, 2006 12:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for jeb Click Here to Email jeb Send a private message to jeb Click to send jeb an Instant MessageVisit jeb's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I've seen this come up in the past, and sooner or later a user posts a link to, say, apathyhouse's guide. It may well be in MOTL's interest to create their own guide, and not be beholden to the graciousness of others.
 
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posted December 05, 2006 12:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
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Originally posted by jeb:
I've seen this come up in the past, and sooner or later a user posts a link to, say, apathyhouse's guide. It may well be in MOTL's interest to create their own guide, and not be beholden to the graciousness of others.

Why re-invent the wheel? If the information is already out there, I see no need to duplicate the effort. If someone wants to create a post to add more information than is available, that would be great, but otherwise, it already exists, so I don't see the need.

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rockondon
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posted December 05, 2006 01:45 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for rockondon Click Here to Email rockondon Send a private message to rockondon Click to send rockondon an Instant MessageVisit rockondon's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View rockondon's Have/Want ListView rockondon's Have/Want List
I'd like to see a thread that had a link to this "wheel" as well as an ongoing list of ebayers that have been spotted as scammers.

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Valmtg
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posted December 15, 2006 05:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Valmtg Click Here to Email Valmtg Send a private message to Valmtg Click to send Valmtg an Instant MessageVisit Valmtg's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well, how about links then from MOTL that would go to those sites?

Also, I think there needs to be a visual guide or at least a direct link to sites that will tell you the condition of the cards for buy/sell/trade lists.

http://prices.blackborder.com/cgi-bin/prices/help/condition.cgi?sid=tEkq9z8c

Blackborder.com has a good visual guide so why not make one for ourselves or link to them or some other site?

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posted December 16, 2006 08:01 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
I'm not a fan of making any condition guide semi-official status by providing a link. Grading is a very personal issue, and a standard that some people like may be very poor to others. If someone has any concerns about grading, they should be communicating with others and providing information about their grading standard of choice.

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implode
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posted December 26, 2006 02:59 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for implode Click Here to Email implode Send a private message to implode Click to send implode an Instant MessageVisit implode's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View implode's Have/Want ListView implode's Have/Want List
If you ask twink permission, I bet he would allow it to be hosted here additionally. Though it honestly wouldn't be too much trouble to author our own version.
 
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posted December 26, 2006 04:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for ronandaggy Send a private message to ronandaggy Click to send ronandaggy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by implode:
If you ask twink permission, I bet he would allow it to be hosted here additionally. Though it honestly wouldn't be too much trouble to author our own version.


i dont think its the fact that it would be a hassle to make one, its what standard to you use?? as Nder has pointed out, everyone grades differently, i personnaly dont use a site to grade and if i do its probably arsenals guide while most people prefer blackborders, its very hard to find a common medium.

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