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bigbob585
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posted January 07, 2009 10:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for bigbob585 Click Here to Email bigbob585 Send a private message to bigbob585 Click to send bigbob585 an Instant MessageVisit bigbob585's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I just thought it would be a good idea to block all profile information from unregistered users so anybody who wants to view the info has to be logged in. This will prevent email phishing and protect members' information more in general.
 
Jazaray
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posted January 07, 2009 11:09 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray Click Here to Email Jazaray Send a private message to Jazaray Click to send Jazaray an Instant MessageVisit Jazaray's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
It was my understand that you already can't view members emails unless you are logged in..

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bigbob585
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posted January 07, 2009 11:23 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for bigbob585 Click Here to Email bigbob585 Send a private message to bigbob585 Click to send bigbob585 an Instant MessageVisit bigbob585's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
not true.. i just tested it
 
coolio
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posted January 08, 2009 05:15 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for coolio Click Here to Email coolio Send a private message to coolio Click to send coolio an Instant MessageVisit coolio's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
It was my understand that you already can't view members emails unless you are logged in..

Thanks,
Jazaray


no, that i believe is just the memberlist

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nderdog
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posted January 08, 2009 05:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
It was my understand that you already can't view members emails unless you are logged in..

Thanks,
Jazaray


No, the email addresses have been turned to ascii code to prevent spidering (which really sucks for non-Internet Exploder users, let me tell you, I have to manually copy/paste every time I want to email someone) but that's it.

As far as hiding individual profiles from non-members, what would really be the point? If someone wants that information, you really think they won't take a minute to create an account to get it?

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Tranderas
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posted January 21, 2009 05:04 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tranderas Click Here to Email Tranderas Click to send Tranderas an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tranderas's Trade Auction or SaleView Tranderas's Trade Auction or Sale
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Originally posted by nderdog:
No, the email addresses have been turned to ascii code to prevent spidering (which really sucks for non-Internet Exploder users, let me tell you, I have to manually copy/paste every time I want to email someone) but that's it.

As far as hiding individual profiles from non-members, what would really be the point? If someone wants that information, you really think they won't take a minute to create an account to get it?


I think it would be easier to track them if the system worked like that.

I also have an issue with people's full names and addresses being posted on the internet in a public forum- namely the BTA board. I'd like to see a way for that forum to become significantly more private, as I believe some people on the internet found me and came to my house based on finding the BTA case I posted awhile ago.

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Tha Gunslinga
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posted January 21, 2009 05:28 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tha Gunslinga Click Here to Email Tha Gunslinga Send a private message to Tha Gunslinga Click to send Tha Gunslinga an Instant MessageVisit Tha Gunslinga's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or SaleView Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or Sale
Well, you didn't have to post your address when you BTA'd him.

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nderdog
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posted January 22, 2009 11:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Tranderas:
I think it would be easier to track them if the system worked like that.

I also have an issue with people's full names and addresses being posted on the internet in a public forum- namely the BTA board. I'd like to see a way for that forum to become significantly more private, as I believe some people on the internet found me and came to my house based on finding the BTA case I posted awhile ago.


How would that help? They use throwawayemail@gmail.com to register on MOTL, then use adifferentthrowawayemail@yahoo.com to spam people, there's still no way of tracing anything to anyone.

Making the BTA more private would make it less useful. The fact that it is available to anyone who wants to monitor bad traders makes it a useful tool for people wanting to avoid being ripped off. More than once, I've been contacted by non-MOTL members regarding people who have been posted there and providing additional information or reporting similar problems with the same people. Given that the normal time for a BTA case to be finished and get them posted in the Confirmed Bad Traders list is a full month, that's a lot of time for a ripper to continue taking advantage of people.

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Tranderas
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posted January 22, 2009 05:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tranderas Click Here to Email Tranderas Click to send Tranderas an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tranderas's Trade Auction or SaleView Tranderas's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
How would that help? They use throwawayemail@gmail.com to register on MOTL, then use adifferentthrowawayemail@yahoo.com to spam people, there's still no way of tracing anything to anyone.

Making the BTA more private would make it less useful. The fact that it is available to anyone who wants to monitor bad traders makes it a useful tool for people wanting to avoid being ripped off. More than once, I've been contacted by non-MOTL members regarding people who have been posted there and providing additional information or reporting similar problems with the same people. Given that the normal time for a BTA case to be finished and get them posted in the Confirmed Bad Traders list is a full month, that's a lot of time for a ripper to continue taking advantage of people.


Which is more important- the safety of your members or the usefulness of a single board?

 
JimmyZ
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posted January 22, 2009 06:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JimmyZ Click Here to Email JimmyZ Send a private message to JimmyZ Click to send JimmyZ an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Personally i think it would be good form to leave the street address out of all BTA announcements don't post it unless asked for it by a MOD


Make a post like such:

James Robertson
XXX XXXXX XXXXX
Fresno, Ca
93722

That gives other people enough info to be wary of trading with someone with similar info without giving out to much info. Or even it could be nice for the Mods to edit the OPs to remove the street address because there are crazy's out there who would show up at peoples homes. If they live in the same area.

 
caquaa
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posted January 22, 2009 06:45 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by Tranderas:
Which is more important- the safety of your members or the usefulness of a single board?

meh, dont screw up a trade bad enough to get put on the BTA and dont be dumb enough to post your own address and you're fine.

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nderdog
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posted January 22, 2009 07:03 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Tranderas:
Which is more important- the safety of your members or the usefulness of a single board?

Wow. Seriously? Saving a lot of people a lot of money from not being taken advantage of by someone who is trying to rip people is really less important than the 1 in a million chance that someone would actually use an address found here for some nefarious plan? The same address that someone that would have reason to be involved in a BTA case would have had to give out to someone they likely don't know?


quote:
Originally posted by JimmyZ:
Personally i think it would be good form to leave the street address out of all BTA announcements don't post it unless asked for it by a MOD


Make a post like such:

James Robertson
XXX XXXXX XXXXX
Fresno, Ca
93722

That gives other people enough info to be wary of trading with someone with similar info without giving out to much info. Or even it could be nice for the Mods to edit the OPs to remove the street address because there are crazy's out there who would show up at peoples homes. If they live in the same area.


That would be a very bad idea. It would just make people suspicious of everyone in every single city that a bad trader is in instead of targeting the idiots who try to rip. It's not like there are plenty of other ways to look up someone's information if someone really wants it.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by nderdog on January 22, 2009]

Shaunbak
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posted February 24, 2009 10:57 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shaunbak Click Here to Email Shaunbak Send a private message to Shaunbak Click to send Shaunbak an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Not sure if this helps but I remember an online game I used to play blocked cheaters ip numbers and in some situations entire subnets for those using dynamic ip's. Is that a solution to possible returning rippers?
 
nderdog
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posted February 24, 2009 11:01 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Shaunbak:
Not sure if this helps but I remember an online game I used to play blocked cheaters ip numbers and in some situations entire subnets for those using dynamic ip's. Is that a solution to possible returning rippers?

IP blocking is used from time to time. Unfortunately, it's not totally effective, as it's pretty easy these days to have ways to use multiple IP addresses from completely different networks.

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