It's actually making many of the motl price guide values even higher than what star city games charges.

It would make things so much easier.

Ebay is a buyers market, not a sellers one and it would be a waste of time to try to profit off of ebay as everyone uses snipers.

Ebay is mainly a place to get rid of stuff you dont want anymore.

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Originally posted by boootlegger:
I just simply dont know why MOTL just doesnt run off of TCGPlayer.com market base.

It would make things so much easier.

Ebay is a buyers market, not a sellers one and it would be a waste of time to try to profit off of ebay as everyone uses snipers.

Ebay is mainly a place to get rid of stuff you dont want anymore.BL

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Ebay tells us what people are willing to pay, not what stores are trying to get. It would be a waste to make people think that cards are worth whatever some random card shops say they are rather than what the market is actually showing us is the real value.

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Ebay tells us what people are willing to pay, not what stores are trying to get. It would be a waste to make people think that cards are worth whatever some random card shops say they are rather than what the market is actually showing us is the real value.

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You do realize that those market values you're talking about are mainly based off of random card shops who's prices are higher on ebay than they charge for the same card on TCGplayer.

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Originally posted by boootlegger:
I just simply dont know why MOTL just doesnt run off of TCGPlayer.com market base.

It would make things so much easier.

Ebay is a buyers market, not a sellers one and it would be a waste of time to try to profit off of ebay as everyone uses snipers.

Ebay is mainly a place to get rid of stuff you dont want anymore.

BL

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Considering cards go for more than they are worth alot of times on Ebay I think you are quite wrong.

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Originally posted by bigbob585:
You do realize that those market values you're talking about are mainly based off of random card shops who's prices are higher on ebay than they charge for the same card on TCGplayer.

This price guide now includes unsold values as well in the price. So if you want $100 for a dark confidant and it doesn't sell. It will account that value into the pricing matrix that's used.

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Obviously the cards that aren't actually selling is an issue, but I'm assuming that's fixable. Still, Ebay is a far better judge of real market value than something like TCGplayer.com.

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Considering cards go for more than they are worth alot of times on Ebay I think you are quite wrong.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
thats not possible. Cards are worth exactly what someone will pay for them.

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So if I pay 1 cent for a Lotus that's what it is worth?

No, people sometimes overpay because they want badly enough.

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So if I pay 1 cent for a Lotus that's what it is worth?

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in an auction format such as ebay this isnt possible, and thats the point. I'd gladly bid .02, the next guy would bid me up, and so on. Its why an average of ebay is a general idea of prices, if you use common sense.

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No, people sometimes overpay because they want badly enough.

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yep, sometimes. And sometimes something ends at 3am and no one is around to bid on it. Thats why its an average. A single high auction doesn't dictate a price, nor does a single low auction.

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Originally posted by bigbob585:
It would be great if things could get fixed to only encompass live auctions and not fixed priced listings (as the majority belong to dealers who sell them at prices above what they sell on their websites)..

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I don't see why that would matter. Picking and choosing what data to use seems like a bad idea. If an item sold, someone was willing to pay that price. Fixed price listings are not really any different than auctions completing by Buy It Now, are they? The goal isn't to give the lowest price, it's to give the most accurate, and including all purchases made is going to give a more accurate price.

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Originally posted by bigbob585:
Nder.. to put simply.. when motl prices start being equivalent and even higher than they are on SCG. Something is wrong with the price guide. Even if they are being done your way that is possible, which means something is still wrong.

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just means someone's slow to the game.. that's all..

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