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Topic: How many Blue spells to Justify 4 FoW?
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Myy Member
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posted June 04, 2011 10:38 AM
I have a counterSlivers Deck and I want to add FoW to it. I have 19 other BLUE spells, does that justify the 4 FoW? or should I take one out and add something else.Main Deck LAND 4x mutavault 1x Temple garden 1x Breeding Pool 2x Hallowed Fountain 4x Flooded Strand 2x windswept Heaths 3x islands 2x Plains CREATURES 4x Crystalline Sliver 4x muscle Sliver 4x Sinew Sliver 4x Winged Sliver SPELLS 4x FoW ( here is where I need help with) 3x Daze 4x Swords To Plowshare 4x AEther Vial 4x Standstill 4x Preordain 2x Tangle Wire
SideBoard
4x Mental misstep 1x Daze 1x Worship 2x Tempest of light (against Enchantress) 3x Energy flux (against Affinity) 2x Essence Sliver (against Aggro and Red) 1x Talon sliver
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Myy on June 13, 2011]
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yukizora Member
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posted June 04, 2011 10:56 AM
You have enough. Btw I'd recommand playing brainstorm with those fetchlands, instead of preordain.
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Myy Member
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posted June 04, 2011 11:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by yukizora: You have enough. Btw I'd recommand playing brainstorm with those fetchlands, instead of preordain.
Thx for the quick reply. you know, I used to run Brainstorm instead, but I've been getting better results with the preordain, I might switch it up again, just to playtest some more.
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airwalk Member
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posted June 13, 2011 02:05 PM
I don't see how it's possble to get better results with Preordain than Brainstorm. Preordain dosn't let you shuffle bad cads back into your deck with the help of a fetchland and it can't find you a Force of Will on your opponents turn.Play 4 Dazes, get rid of those Tangle Wires.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by airwalk on June 13, 2011]
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Myy Member
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posted June 14, 2011 07:23 AM
maybe it's just been bad luck.The reason I find preordain so fascinating is it's a stand Alone card. whereas brainstorm need fetches to get to it's full potential. I'm not saying brainstorm is better than preordain, but from personal experience, I've always been able to get rid of the land on top of my deck with preordain. with brainstorm, I've had so many times that I have no fetches and just put just land on top, just to stall the inevitable drawing of said lands. the big plus is obviously they're instants rather than a sorcery. I've changed them to Brainstorms again and will playtest this weekend. I'll let you know how it went down.
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gcowhsu Member
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posted June 14, 2011 09:35 AM
brainstorm removes dead cards in your hand while preordain removes bad cards coming up. They are both good cards and I would run brainstorm over preordain for the instant speed.
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Heresy19 Member
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posted June 14, 2011 08:31 PM
+4x Brainstorm +1x Daze -2x Tangle Wire -1x Temple garden -1x islands -1x Preordain
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mm1983 Member
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posted June 15, 2011 03:37 AM
Brainstorm is definitely better due to being instant speed and also to draw into the first turn FoW or just to even find the blue card if you already have the FoW in hand. Preordain is better for most late game situations as far as removing up to 2 bad card draws coming up plus you are drawing a card from it.
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Sovarius Member
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posted June 16, 2011 10:58 AM
I'm not digging tangle wires. What about 4 Brainstorm and 2 Preordain? You can run a bit more counter. I'm no pro at Legacy but Mental Misstep seems like it's worth mainboarding. Sensei's Divining Top is also good with fetches. Speaking of, replace Flooded Strand with Misty Rainforest. Sidewinder sliver is awesome if you need more bodies but i do not very often see counterslivers running more.
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MeddlingMage Member
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posted June 16, 2011 07:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: I'm no pro at Legacy but Mental Misstep seems like it's worth mainboarding.
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simbayu Member
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posted June 16, 2011 07:38 PM
Your creature count is low for an aether vial deck. perhaps remove the vials and add in missteps?
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Myy Member
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posted June 18, 2011 11:14 AM
OK So I did these changes: -2 Tangle Wire -1 daze -4 Preordain
+4 Brainstorm +3 Mental misstep Played against Zoo
went 3-3 Overall the games were pretty close, He stabilzed early on, but Crystalline sliver made it really hard for my opponent. HE always had to bolt my face, and have dead Paths in hand. everygame I dropped Standstill, he had to break it, and I just destroyed him with card advantage. games I lost were due to his wastelands, and appearantly Grim lavamancer does more damage that I thought. we never used our sideboard.
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Heresy19 Member
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posted June 18, 2011 11:40 AM
Well, you can't REALLY test a deck without using your sideboard game 2 and 3 :PYou should try 4x Pithing Needle.... it stops Wastelands AND lavamancers
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Myy Member
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posted June 18, 2011 03:14 PM
Played vs Affinitywent 4-2 I guess I have a better chance against Affinity with no removal whatsoever. That decks has some serious Aggresive draws, one game he vomited his hand and He used a lone glimpse of nature to draw into more omnithopters, memnites, frogmites and 2 Enforcer. and this was his turn 2. overall I can counter the big stuff and if I drop a Standstill, Its pretty much game. Standstill with mutavaults and AEther vials is to much pressure and they have to break the Standstill. once broken I draw into more counters and/or another Standstill. after siding In Energy flux, he had no chance once I dropped it on the field.
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Bugger Member
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posted June 18, 2011 04:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: Played vs Affinitywent 4-2 I guess I have a better chance against Affinity with no removal whatsoever. That decks has some serious Aggresive draws, one game he vomited his hand and He used a lone glimpse of nature to draw into more omnithopters, memnites, frogmites and 2 Enforcer. and this was his turn 2. overall I can counter the big stuff and if I drop a Standstill, Its pretty much game. Standstill with mutavaults and AEther vials is to much pressure and they have to break the Standstill. once broken I draw into more counters and/or another Standstill. after siding In Energy flux, he had no chance once I dropped it on the field.
Sounds like Misstepping the Glimpse would have served you well. Add me to the list of those suggesting maindecking mental misstep.
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