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JoshSherman
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posted August 05, 2011 10:04 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JoshSherman Click Here to Email JoshSherman Send a private message to JoshSherman Click to send JoshSherman an Instant MessageVisit JoshSherman's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View JoshSherman's Trade Auction or SaleView JoshSherman's Trade Auction or Sale
Have you ever been killed by Sorrow's Path? My V5CB deck would have won the Johnny Award for best use of a card that has never been good-- if it forced you to play a land. Here was my deck:
Sorrow's Path
Political Trickery
Rishadan Port
Fog Bank (should have used Calcite Snapper)
Dreadship Reef

I want to turn this into a 60-card deck, where the only way to win is Sorrow's Path. This means no creatures (except maybe Spawnbroker), and no damage spells. I have a basic idea of how I would build it, but I'd like your input as well. Remember, this is intended to be fun. I'd like a Vintage and Legacy version, I think. These are some cards I'm considering:

Crucible of Worlds
Mind Over Matter
Meloku, The Clouded Mirror
Sorrow's Path
Opposition
Political Trickery
Spawnbroker
Rishadan Port
Fastbond
Zuran Orb
Crop Rotation (so I don't have to run 4 Paths)


8 ways to swap 5-8 "copies" of Path. It seems like Meloku, Opposition, and Mind Over Matter work well together (especially with Fastbond and Crucible). I'm fine with this looking like lands.dec, or whatever. I don't have access to power, but I don't have Ports, either and that isn't stopping me. Discuss!

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Bazaar Trader for cheaper, re-usable swapping, albeit with summoning sickness.

Would you be opposed to Psychic Venom? Seems like it would be hilarious on Sorrow's Path, quite insulting.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by airwalk:

Would you be opposed to Psychic Venom? Seems like it would be hilarious on Sorrow's Path, quite insulting.


LOLz. I think you just broke Legacy.

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seems like icy and ring of gix are much better and cheaper than risdan port. They can also lock down creatures to make you live longer.
 
ryan2754
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I would still run 4 Paths...+ Vesuva. Especially because of Wasteland.
Getting killed by more than one Sorrow's path > 1 Sorrow's Path

4 Vesuva
4 Sorrow's Path
4 Rishadan Port
12 Mountain/Island/Forest
Other good lands that stall the game

4 Donate
4 Political Trickery
4 Mind Games

2 Mind over Matter
2 Opposition

4 Bazaar Trader
4 Fog Bank/Wall of Denial/etc.
4 Spawnbroker
4 Cartographer
4 Mana Leech

4 Crucible of the Worlds
8 Icy Manipulator/Ring of Gix/Amber Prison
1 Sol Ring
1 Mishra's Helix

So blue base. Can splash White for Wall of Denial/Wall of Omens/Scepter of Dominance, Green for Cartographer/Wall of Blossoms/Crop Rotation, Red for Bazaar Trader, Black for Mana Leech. So many different ways to go.
White/Black give you removal, Red gives Bazaar Trader.


Also, tapping it more than once per turn is fun.
Fatestitcher
Rimewind Taskmage (If snow)
Unbender Tine
Toils of Night and Day
Candelabra of Tawnos
Voltaic Key can Help
Argothian Elder
Deserted Temple
Earthcraft
Juniper Order Druid/Lay Druid
Twiddle

If I had to make my choice, I would do something like a Green/Blue
Lands (27)
4 Sorrow's Path
4 Vesuva
4 Rishadan Port
3 Deserted Temple
7 Island (Or better lands like Duals/Fetch's etc to help with mana base)
5 Forest

4 Crop Rotation/4 Expedition Map (may be better since you aren't sacing a land)/4 Sylvan Scrying (might be best one of all)
4 Fast Bond

4 Fog Bank/4 Lay Druid
4 Rimewind taskmage (snow)/4 Icy Manipulator

2 Mind Games
4 Political Trickery
4 Donate
3 Mind over Matter
1 Scapeshift/Earthcraft

1 Sol Ring
3 Crucible of the Worlds

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Nyarlathotep333
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Yeah, Vesuva was going to be my suggestion too. More Paths = more chance to make sure they wind up with a copy or two. Plus, if you go G/U like ryan2754 mentions then Vesuva can help with the Port and Temple to give you more untap/tap lands to work the Path with.

This deck sounds like fun.

 
JoshSherman
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Here's what I have come up with. What do you think? Oh, and I decided to stick to Vintage's BR list.

1 Sol Ring
2 Zuran Orb
4 Crucible of Worlds

4 Preordain
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Merchant Scroll
4 Political Trickery
4 Shifting Borders
4 Psychic Puppetry
2 Mind Over Matter

4 Crop Rotation
1 Fastbond

2 Meloku, the Clouded Mirror

4 Sorrow's Path
1 Glacial Chasm
4 Undiscovered Paradise
4 Rishadan Port
1 Deserted Temple
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
4 Breeding Pool
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Island

I like the Arcane theme. Shifting borders helps, too, because I don't have Donates.

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ryan2754
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Still think Vesuva's are necessary. They can copy Sorrow's Path, Deserted Temple, Rishadan Port, etc.

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JoshSherman
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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
Still think Vesuva's are necessary. They can copy Sorrow's Path, Deserted Temple, Rishadan Port, etc.


You're probably right. The only thing is they're in a good deck right now, and aren't likely to come out of it. Also, the more I think about it, the less I like Crop Rotation. If I cut those, I don't need green mana until I find the Fastbond. Probably run Expedition map instead.

BTW, what do you think of the chain reaction I put in there? Bounce a land with Meloku, pitch it to Mind Over Matter, replay it from the yard with Fastbond and Crucible, tap it for mana, sac it to Z Orb, re-replay it, tap it for mana to Meloku it. I can get infinite life and infinite mana, plus deal infinite damage with Sorrow's path.

Lands:
4 Sorrow's Path
4 Rishadan Port
3 Deserted Temple
4 Vesuva
4 Undiscovered Paradise
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
4 Breeding Pool

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ryan2754
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Seems good. Have you playtested it?

Seems like you might have trouble vs. Aggro if you don't get a Port.

Seems like fun.

Does it have problems with drawing enough cards?

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JoshSherman
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I'm still in the developmental stages with it. I know it's never going to be that good, but I won't play it unless it's not this bad. I took out Psychic Puppetry because I hated it, and subbed the Maps for the Rotations. Right now I'm at:

3 Zuran Orb
4 Crucible of Worlds
1 Sol Ring
4 Expedition Map

1 Fastbond

4 Shifting Borders
4 Political Trickery
3 Meloku, the Clouded mirror
3 Mind Over Matter
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
4 Serum Visions

4 Sorrow's Path
4 Vesuva
4 Rishadan Port
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
3 Deserted Temple
4 Breeding Pool
2 Island
3 Blue Fetches

Undiscovered Paradise doesn't work for me because it's too hard to draw Fastbond. I'd like to switch in Preordain and to get more card drawing in the deck. Not sure where to cut.

 

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