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caquaa Member	posted April 15, 2011 05:04 PM quote: Originally posted by daner: Wizards will reprint Jace in m12, lowering it's cost...then more people will play it. yep, also I heard tarmogoyf is going to be in m12 because he was future shifted.
junichi Moderator	posted April 15, 2011 05:11 PM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: [QUOTE]Originally posted by daner: Wizards will reprint Jace in m12, lowering it's cost...then more people will play it. yep, also I heard tarmogoyf is going to be in m12 because he was future shifted. [/QUOTE] This can't be true, because a little birdie told me yesterday goyf will be reprinted in New Phyrexia. __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 Champion Get a brain, Morans!
iccarus Member	posted April 15, 2011 06:08 PM quote: Originally posted by junichi: This can't be true, because a little birdie told me yesterday goyf will be reprinted in New Phyrexia. That would be awesome. I just sold my playset __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!
joz Banned	posted April 15, 2011 07:10 PM Its not tarmagoyf reprint, its Corrupted Tarmagoyf; just has infect and is 1U instead of 1G. stuit face __________________ Bargain is not to powerful for EDH, EDH is to weak for Bargain!
daner Member	posted April 16, 2011 11:51 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: [QUOTE]Originally posted by daner: Wizards will reprint Jace in m12, lowering it's cost...then more people will play it. yep, also I heard tarmogoyf is going to be in m12 because he was future shifted. [/QUOTE] I see you're an idiot who can't comprehend a joke. Rather just take half of my comment out of context. This is not a joke. They wont reprint Jace, they wont ban Jace, Jace will naturally go down when it rotates out. There, is THAT the response that best suits you? I didn't know I would have to candy-coat everything especially for someone as smart as yourself, or at least I gave credit for being smart.
caquaa Member	posted April 16, 2011 12:50 PM Oh, that was a joke? That sucks. Goyf really is being reprinted. I so wanted to play goyf and jace in the same deck in standard. I'd likely be the only one and I think it might be a decent deck. Its not nice to spread false information about jace like that as a joke tho.
daner Member	posted April 16, 2011 01:00 PM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: Oh, that was a joke? That sucks. Goyf really is being reprinted. I so wanted to play goyf and jace in the same deck in standard. I'd likely be the only one and I think it might be a decent deck. Its not nice to spread false information about jace like that as a joke tho. And this morning I pooped a rainbow. EDIT: You know, if we don't watch out eventually someone is going to take us seriously, and then we will both be credited on Salvation as "sources" Jace and Goyf are being reprinted. [Edited 1 times, lastly by daner on April 16, 2011]
oneofchaos Member	posted April 16, 2011 08:26 PM quote: Originally posted by daner: [QUOTE]Originally posted by caquaa: Oh, that was a joke? That sucks. Goyf really is being reprinted. I so wanted to play goyf and jace in the same deck in standard. I'd likely be the only one and I think it might be a decent deck. Its not nice to spread false information about jace like that as a joke tho. And this morning I pooped a rainbow. EDIT: You know, if we don't watch out eventually someone is going to take us seriously, and then we will both be credited on Salvation as "sources" Jace and Goyf are being reprinted.[/QUOTE] **** is going to hit the fan when preacher comes back to tell those phyrexians off.
Volcanon Member	posted April 16, 2011 08:35 PM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: **** is going to hit the fan when preacher comes back to tell those phyrexians off. A Preacher reprint would be hot. Not like he'd be actually played, but hey.
caquaa Member	posted April 16, 2011 11:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: A Preacher reprint would be hot. Not like he'd be actually played, but hey. its ever so tempting to play him in EDH. Just not sure where...
Volcanon Member	posted April 17, 2011 11:23 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: its ever so tempting to play him in EDH. Just not sure where... Any deck with white in it?
CubFan81 Member	posted April 18, 2011 10:24 AM While the thread has gone a little off track, I just wanted to point out my favorite part of the article. Specifically where Tom says: quote: Originally posted by Tom LaPille: Before we continue, I should be crystal clear about our current topic. Jace, the Mind Sculptor is more powerful than we intended it to be. In hindsight, we wish it were less powerful. Really? A 4 ability version of one of the more powerful types of cards created in Magic history that usually only get 3 abilities might be more powerful than you anticipated? In a game essentially based around maximizing your resources having one card essentially function as 3 or 4 at once seems pretty impressive. [Edited 1 times, lastly by CubFan81 on April 18, 2011]
Volcanon Member	posted April 18, 2011 10:39 AM quote: Originally posted by CubFan81: While the thread has gone a little off track, I just wanted to point out my favorite part of the article. Specifically where Tom says: Really? A 4 ability version of one of the more powerful types of cards created in Magic history that usually only get 3 abilities might be more powerful than you anticipated? In a game essentially based around maximizing your resources having one card essentially function as 3 or 4 at once seems pretty impressive. Let's not forget that every ability is useful, not just 1 or 2, he can protect himself without the player having to do anything, and his ultimate ends the game like no other ultimate does.
CoupDeGrace Member	posted April 18, 2011 11:11 AM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: A Preacher reprint would be hot. Not like he'd be actually played, but hey. I love to see that if it would be reprint!
Havoc Demon Member	posted April 18, 2011 12:08 PM quote: Originally posted by Tom LaPille: Before we continue, I should be crystal clear about our current topic. Jace, the Mind Sculptor is more powerful than we intended it to be. In hindsight, we wish it were less powerful. I guess you guys didn't learn from Vivid Lands/Reflecting Pool, Tarmogoyf, Umezawa's Jitte, Skullclamp, Artifact lands... __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 85th All-time Support my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
Our_Benefactors Member	posted April 18, 2011 12:11 PM quote: Originally posted by Havoc Demon: I guess you guys didn't learn from Vivid Lands/Reflecting Pool, Tarmogoyf, Umezawa's Jitte, Skullclamp, Artifact lands... Wizards makes mistakes? REVELATION
fluffycow Member	posted April 18, 2011 12:17 PM I would much rather have a broken card here and there than have them not take any risks. [Edited 1 times, lastly by fluffycow on April 18, 2011]
Volcanon Member	posted April 18, 2011 12:18 PM quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: I would much rather have a broken card here and there than have them not take any risks. I'd rather they properly balanced their sets. They managed it in both Ravnica and (mostly) Time Spiral such that those were fun formats where anything tainted by Mirrodin 1 was not.
Havoc Demon Member	posted April 18, 2011 12:27 PM They can make mistakes, but these excuses of obliviousness when they do make mistakes are silly. They knew exactly what would happen giving a planeswalker four abilities and making it cheap to play. If they were as dumb as they try to make themselves they would have driven the game into the ground years ago. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 85th All-time Support my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com [Edited 1 times, lastly by Havoc Demon on April 18, 2011]
Heresy19 Member	posted April 18, 2011 02:19 PM I really don't think that Jace 2.0 will get banned. Like he said in the article, New Phyrexia will change the format. He seemed confident that Jace won't be as poweful in the format as he is right now. He even said there were 2 spells that targeted planeswalkers and that they were actually good ones. In other news : Dispatch looks awesome for my metalcraft control
Volcanon Member	posted April 18, 2011 03:17 PM Even a card that says "B: Destroy target planeswalker" won't do anything.
oneofchaos Member	posted April 18, 2011 04:05 PM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: Even a card that says "B: Destroy target planeswalker" won't do anything. Just a 0 mana artifact that when it comes into play it removes all counters from a permanent. 0CC planeswalker vindicate.
Heresy19 Member	posted April 18, 2011 04:08 PM So far with the spoilers, Parasite Hex does the job against Jace.
oneofchaos Member	posted April 18, 2011 06:52 PM quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: So far with the spoilers, Parasite Hex does the job against Jace. I know!
caquaa Member	posted April 18, 2011 07:22 PM quote: Originally posted by Havoc Demon: I guess you guys didn't learn from Vivid Lands/Reflecting Pool, Tarmogoyf, Umezawa's Jitte, Skullclamp, Artifact lands... vivids and reflecting pool weren't a mistake. They made the alara block function. If lorwyn block didn't have those, then we'd just have played tribal even longer. I essentially played block fae until it rotated. Add in a terror here and some better lands there and call it good.

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