Click Here!
         
  Magic Online Trading League Bulletin Board
  Magic Discussion
  alters (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | rules | memberlist | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
This topic is 2 pages long:   1  2 
  next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   alters
michaelsean09
Member
posted July 14, 2011 10:39 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for michaelsean09 Click Here to Email michaelsean09 Send a private message to michaelsean09 Click to send michaelsean09 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I am looking for someone to alter a swiftfoot boots for me. Does anyone know/have a link of someone highly skilled in this area? I've tried Eric Klug and card kitty so anyone other than that would be great. Thanks!
 
joz
Banned
posted July 14, 2011 10:55 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for joz Click Here to Email joz Send a private message to joz Click to send joz an Instant MessageVisit joz's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
yawg07 does amazing alters, you can find him on ebay:

http://myworld.ebay.com/yawg07&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID

and on the Mtgcommander.net forums.

__________________
Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?

Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.

 
MasterWolf
Member
posted July 15, 2011 07:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MasterWolf Click Here to Email MasterWolf Send a private message to MasterWolf Click to send MasterWolf an Instant MessageVisit MasterWolf's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View MasterWolf's Have/Want ListView MasterWolf's Have/Want List
What do you mean you've "tried" them? As in they won't respond, or as in you were not satisfied with their work, or as in they were too expensive?
 
Zakman86
Member
posted July 15, 2011 07:24 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Zakman86 Click Here to Email Zakman86 Send a private message to Zakman86 Click to send Zakman86 an Instant MessageVisit Zakman86's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Zakman86's Have/Want ListView Zakman86's Have/Want List
I try to use as many different sources as possible for my alters, so my deck looks like an all-star team. :P

I've used Laura Van Wie , Hannah Murray and I'm about to use yawg and klug at Cincinatti.

 
NiceFaceLOL
Member
posted July 15, 2011 07:32 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for NiceFaceLOL Click Here to Email NiceFaceLOL Send a private message to NiceFaceLOL Click to send NiceFaceLOL an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Wow, Hannah's website is terrible. The Salvation altered art thread has all most all of the good artists posting work there, you could just find someone who's style you like and contact them.
 
Zakman86
Member
posted July 15, 2011 07:59 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Zakman86 Click Here to Email Zakman86 Send a private message to Zakman86 Click to send Zakman86 an Instant MessageVisit Zakman86's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Zakman86's Have/Want ListView Zakman86's Have/Want List
Hannah's website blows but her work's good.
 
hilikuS
Member
posted July 15, 2011 07:59 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
I like Bugger's the best!


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1792434657937&set=t.100001828449446&type=1&theater

 
michaelsean09
Member
posted July 15, 2011 09:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for michaelsean09 Click Here to Email michaelsean09 Send a private message to michaelsean09 Click to send michaelsean09 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
What do you mean you've "tried" them? As in they won't respond, or as in you were not satisfied with their work, or as in they were too expensive?

I wrote to both of them and Klug is busy for a few months and I haven't heard back from Card Kitty yet.

 
JensK
Member
posted July 15, 2011 10:39 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JensK Click Here to Email JensK Send a private message to JensK Click to send JensK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Zakman86:
Hannah's website blows but her work's good.

I think it is pretty damn awesome!

 
nailbunny7
Member
posted July 15, 2011 12:05 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nailbunny7 Click Here to Email nailbunny7 Send a private message to nailbunny7 Click to send nailbunny7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Cardkitty is so expensive...
Most of the other good alterers charge half or less of what Cardkitty charges.
 
Zakman86
Member
posted July 15, 2011 12:10 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Zakman86 Click Here to Email Zakman86 Send a private message to Zakman86 Click to send Zakman86 an Instant MessageVisit Zakman86's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Zakman86's Have/Want ListView Zakman86's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by nailbunny7:
Cardkitty is so expensive...
Most of the other good alterers charge half or less of what Cardkitty charges.


Not sure what Cardkitty charges, but most of the alterers I've dealt with charge between $20 and $50.

 
MasterWolf
Member
posted July 15, 2011 12:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MasterWolf Click Here to Email MasterWolf Send a private message to MasterWolf Click to send MasterWolf an Instant MessageVisit MasterWolf's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View MasterWolf's Have/Want ListView MasterWolf's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by nailbunny7:
Cardkitty is so expensive...
Most of the other good alterers charge half or less of what Cardkitty charges.

Disagree. She doesn't charge much more than Gus. Those are the only two I've worked with. It's generally $25-30 for a simple alter, up to $50-80 for a full art or the like alter.

 
gcowhsu
Member
posted July 15, 2011 01:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for gcowhsu Click Here to Email gcowhsu Click to send gcowhsu an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View gcowhsu's Trade Auction or SaleView gcowhsu's Trade Auction or Sale
Laura charged me $17 for full frame vampire nighthawks. 15 for alter 2 for the card.

http://alteredcardsbylaura.com/full/b%20Vampire%20Nighthawk%20929.jpg + it has flying, deathtouch, lifelink written in white above the bottom border.

I'm happy with it, just not happy I can't find a deck to put it in.

I'm thinking of getting some islands and plains made full frame from the zendikar lands

http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/252_island1_zg521f73s4.jpg

http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/286_meignaud.jpg

[Edited 3 times, lastly by gcowhsu on July 15, 2011]

 
sicsmoo
Member
posted July 15, 2011 01:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for sicsmoo Click Here to Email sicsmoo Click to send sicsmoo an Instant MessageVisit sicsmoo's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hannah's site looks fine to me. Great work, too. The full art planeswalkers are sick.
 
Thanos
Member
posted July 16, 2011 10:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Most of it looks like utter garbage.

I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art.

Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours.

They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.

 
Mr.C
Member
posted July 16, 2011 10:28 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.C Click Here to Email Mr.C Send a private message to Mr.C Click to send Mr.C an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr.C's Have/Want ListView Mr.C's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Most of it looks like utter garbage.

I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art.

Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours.

They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.


That's why I like that guy from the Philippines that makes his own art on cards. Although he has the same annoying habit of signing over the artist's name on extended arts.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mr.C on July 16, 2011]

 
Volcanon
Member
posted July 16, 2011 01:08 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Laura charged me $17 for full frame vampire nighthawks. 15 for alter 2 for the card.

http://alteredcardsbylaura.com/full/b%20Vampire%20Nighthawk%20929.jpg + it has flying, deathtouch, lifelink written in white above the bottom border.

I'm happy with it, just not happy I can't find a deck to put it in.

I'm thinking of getting some islands and plains made full frame from the zendikar lands

http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/252_island1_zg521f73s4.jpg

http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/286_meignaud.jpg


Those are fiendishly ugly, and she did't really keep within the lines at all.

 
nailbunny7
Member
posted July 16, 2011 02:38 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nailbunny7 Click Here to Email nailbunny7 Send a private message to nailbunny7 Click to send nailbunny7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Disagree. She doesn't charge much more than Gus. Those are the only two I've worked with. It's generally $25-30 for a simple alter, up to $50-80 for a full art or the like alter.

I've dealt with a few alterers. Many only charge about 15.

 
nailbunny7
Member
posted July 16, 2011 02:42 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nailbunny7 Click Here to Email nailbunny7 Send a private message to nailbunny7 Click to send nailbunny7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Budget did these for me at 15 each:
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/nail2.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/des_soltari.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/nailbunny1.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/morph_crater.jpg

 
CubFan81
Member
posted July 17, 2011 06:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for CubFan81 Click Here to Email CubFan81 Send a private message to CubFan81 Click to send CubFan81 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View CubFan81's Have/Want ListView CubFan81's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Most of it looks like utter garbage.

I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art.

Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours.

They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.


I'm not huge on altered cards but I think part of the reason for this is simply the aesthetics of it. The card frames are designed to have information where it is. Extending the borders and trying to leave the original artists name would make the overall effect pretty ugly. In most cases, people have seen unaltered versions of the card and know that the signature of the alterer doesn't mean he did the whole thing.

I also don't think anyone who alters a card by extending the borders is trying to pass off the whole work as their own.

 
wakeupwithastory
Member
posted July 17, 2011 11:05 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wakeupwithastory Send a private message to wakeupwithastory Click to send wakeupwithastory an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'd like to suggest buying some markers or a hyper awesome lazer printer and learning to do it yourself.

If you can't draw, neither can I, but we can learn. Practice turning plains into forests or something with little happy trees until you can charge $50 for an alter.

You'll save money.
You'll earn money.
You'll learn to express yourself more.
You'll have the freshest never-b4-seen alters.

Don't even get me started on all the chicks bro.

 
Markers
Member
posted July 17, 2011 11:40 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Markers Click Here to Email Markers Send a private message to Markers Click to send Markers an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Most of it looks like utter garbage.

I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art.

Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours.

They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.


Full ack...

As an artist I'd be tremendously ****ed about that...

__________________
Collecting signed cards. PM me...

Total signed cards: 25'775

my stuff

 
nailbunny7
Member
posted July 17, 2011 11:54 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nailbunny7 Click Here to Email nailbunny7 Send a private message to nailbunny7 Click to send nailbunny7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
They aren't trying to take credit for the original art or anything like that, I'm not sure where people get ideas like that...
But they sign the card to show who did the alter, not to take credit for the original art
Anyways, all the artists I've talked to or seen actually think it's pretty cool, except Edward P. Beard Jr.
 
wakeupwithastory
Member
posted July 17, 2011 11:58 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wakeupwithastory Send a private message to wakeupwithastory Click to send wakeupwithastory an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Markers:
Full ack...

As an artist I'd be tremendously ****ed about that...


As an artist, you have no control over how others will receive your art. Drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa neither detracts from the initial achievement nor does it mean it's an improvement.

Everything we do is a communication of some kind. The art is expression. The artist finishes the communication and gets paid for his services. The altering artist is communicating his dissatisfaction by adding his two cents. Its up to you to decide if the art is worth two more pennies now though.

In the world of graffiti art, if I bomb my stencil all over you're mural to say its whack it doesn't mean I am saying I am more talented. Just that you're work needs improvement, or that I don't think this is the place for it.

On a card, if you like the name, the abilities, etc but not the art. You can slap a sticker over it, or sharpies or whatever. Express yourself I say.

You either like the art and play it like that, or you like the art but prefer it to be more original, or you don't like that art and would pay to have it altered, or you don't like that art but wouldn't pay to have it altered, or blah blah blah.

It's all the same thing you see.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by wakeupwithastory on July 17, 2011]

 
nailbunny7
Member
posted July 17, 2011 12:12 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nailbunny7 Click Here to Email nailbunny7 Send a private message to nailbunny7 Click to send nailbunny7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
The other thing is that a lot of people just want a card that is more unique than the norm, and people will pay for that uniqueness.
 

This topic is 2 pages long:   1  2 

All times are PDT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | MOTL Home Page | Privacy Statement & TOS

© 1996-2012 Magic Online Trading League

Powered by Infopop © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47e