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Topic: alters
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michaelsean09 Member
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posted July 14, 2011 10:39 PM
I am looking for someone to alter a swiftfoot boots for me. Does anyone know/have a link of someone highly skilled in this area? I've tried Eric Klug and card kitty so anyone other than that would be great. Thanks!
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joz Banned
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posted July 14, 2011 10:55 PM
yawg07 does amazing alters, you can find him on ebay:http://myworld.ebay.com/yawg07&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID and on the Mtgcommander.net forums. __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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MasterWolf Member
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posted July 15, 2011 07:10 AM
What do you mean you've "tried" them? As in they won't respond, or as in you were not satisfied with their work, or as in they were too expensive?
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Zakman86 Member
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posted July 15, 2011 07:24 AM
I try to use as many different sources as possible for my alters, so my deck looks like an all-star team. :PI've used Laura Van Wie , Hannah Murray and I'm about to use yawg and klug at Cincinatti.
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NiceFaceLOL Member
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posted July 15, 2011 07:32 AM
Wow, Hannah's website is terrible. The Salvation altered art thread has all most all of the good artists posting work there, you could just find someone who's style you like and contact them.
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Zakman86 Member
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posted July 15, 2011 07:59 AM
Hannah's website blows but her work's good.
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hilikuS Member
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posted July 15, 2011 07:59 AM
I like Bugger's the best! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1792434657937&set=t.100001828449446&type=1&theater
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michaelsean09 Member
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posted July 15, 2011 09:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: What do you mean you've "tried" them? As in they won't respond, or as in you were not satisfied with their work, or as in they were too expensive?
I wrote to both of them and Klug is busy for a few months and I haven't heard back from Card Kitty yet.
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JensK Member
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posted July 15, 2011 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zakman86: Hannah's website blows but her work's good.
I think it is pretty damn awesome!
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted July 15, 2011 12:05 PM
Cardkitty is so expensive... Most of the other good alterers charge half or less of what Cardkitty charges.
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Zakman86 Member
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posted July 15, 2011 12:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by nailbunny7: Cardkitty is so expensive... Most of the other good alterers charge half or less of what Cardkitty charges.
Not sure what Cardkitty charges, but most of the alterers I've dealt with charge between $20 and $50.
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MasterWolf Member
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posted July 15, 2011 12:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by nailbunny7: Cardkitty is so expensive... Most of the other good alterers charge half or less of what Cardkitty charges.
Disagree. She doesn't charge much more than Gus. Those are the only two I've worked with. It's generally $25-30 for a simple alter, up to $50-80 for a full art or the like alter.
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gcowhsu Member
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posted July 15, 2011 01:13 PM
Laura charged me $17 for full frame vampire nighthawks. 15 for alter 2 for the card.http://alteredcardsbylaura.com/full/b%20Vampire%20Nighthawk%20929.jpg + it has flying, deathtouch, lifelink written in white above the bottom border. I'm happy with it, just not happy I can't find a deck to put it in. I'm thinking of getting some islands and plains made full frame from the zendikar lands http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/252_island1_zg521f73s4.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/286_meignaud.jpg
[Edited 3 times, lastly by gcowhsu on July 15, 2011]
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sicsmoo Member
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posted July 15, 2011 01:46 PM
Hannah's site looks fine to me. Great work, too. The full art planeswalkers are sick.
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Thanos Member
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posted July 16, 2011 10:26 AM
Most of it looks like utter garbage.I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art. Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours. They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.
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Mr.C Member
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posted July 16, 2011 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Thanos: Most of it looks like utter garbage.I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art. Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours. They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.
That's why I like that guy from the Philippines that makes his own art on cards. Although he has the same annoying habit of signing over the artist's name on extended arts.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mr.C on July 16, 2011]
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Volcanon Member
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posted July 16, 2011 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by gcowhsu: Laura charged me $17 for full frame vampire nighthawks. 15 for alter 2 for the card.http://alteredcardsbylaura.com/full/b%20Vampire%20Nighthawk%20929.jpg + it has flying, deathtouch, lifelink written in white above the bottom border. I'm happy with it, just not happy I can't find a deck to put it in. I'm thinking of getting some islands and plains made full frame from the zendikar lands http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/252_island1_zg521f73s4.jpg http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/daily/arcana/286_meignaud.jpg
Those are fiendishly ugly, and she did't really keep within the lines at all.
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted July 16, 2011 02:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: Disagree. She doesn't charge much more than Gus. Those are the only two I've worked with. It's generally $25-30 for a simple alter, up to $50-80 for a full art or the like alter.
I've dealt with a few alterers. Many only charge about 15.
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted July 16, 2011 02:42 PM
Budget did these for me at 15 each: http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/nail2.jpghttp://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/des_soltari.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/nailbunny1.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj46/ca_chandler/morph_crater.jpg
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CubFan81 Member
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posted July 17, 2011 06:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Thanos: Most of it looks like utter garbage.I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art. Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours. They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.
I'm not huge on altered cards but I think part of the reason for this is simply the aesthetics of it. The card frames are designed to have information where it is. Extending the borders and trying to leave the original artists name would make the overall effect pretty ugly. In most cases, people have seen unaltered versions of the card and know that the signature of the alterer doesn't mean he did the whole thing. I also don't think anyone who alters a card by extending the borders is trying to pass off the whole work as their own.
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wakeupwithastory Member
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posted July 17, 2011 11:05 AM
I'd like to suggest buying some markers or a hyper awesome lazer printer and learning to do it yourself.If you can't draw, neither can I, but we can learn. Practice turning plains into forests or something with little happy trees until you can charge $50 for an alter. You'll save money. You'll earn money. You'll learn to express yourself more. You'll have the freshest never-b4-seen alters. Don't even get me started on all the chicks bro.
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Markers Member
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posted July 17, 2011 11:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Thanos: Most of it looks like utter garbage.I am tired of these hacks adding borders, painting over the artists name, then signing their name like it's their art. Just because you added some borders, painted some other randomness, but kept the essence of the original painting doesn't make it your art of give you the right to say it's yours. They need to stop taking credit for art that's not theirs.
Full ack... As an artist I'd be tremendously ****ed about that... __________________ Collecting signed cards. PM me...Total signed cards: 25'775 my stuff
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted July 17, 2011 11:54 AM
They aren't trying to take credit for the original art or anything like that, I'm not sure where people get ideas like that... But they sign the card to show who did the alter, not to take credit for the original art Anyways, all the artists I've talked to or seen actually think it's pretty cool, except Edward P. Beard Jr.
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wakeupwithastory Member
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posted July 17, 2011 11:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Markers: Full ack...As an artist I'd be tremendously ****ed about that...
As an artist, you have no control over how others will receive your art. Drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa neither detracts from the initial achievement nor does it mean it's an improvement. Everything we do is a communication of some kind. The art is expression. The artist finishes the communication and gets paid for his services. The altering artist is communicating his dissatisfaction by adding his two cents. Its up to you to decide if the art is worth two more pennies now though. In the world of graffiti art, if I bomb my stencil all over you're mural to say its whack it doesn't mean I am saying I am more talented. Just that you're work needs improvement, or that I don't think this is the place for it. On a card, if you like the name, the abilities, etc but not the art. You can slap a sticker over it, or sharpies or whatever. Express yourself I say. You either like the art and play it like that, or you like the art but prefer it to be more original, or you don't like that art and would pay to have it altered, or you don't like that art but wouldn't pay to have it altered, or blah blah blah. It's all the same thing you see.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by wakeupwithastory on July 17, 2011]
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted July 17, 2011 12:12 PM
The other thing is that a lot of people just want a card that is more unique than the norm, and people will pay for that uniqueness.
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