Rest for most part made sense, those suppise me tho to a point..

Really wish that hadn't banned Mistep tho, that just seems wrong..

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Wow Jace 2.0, Mystic, Mental Mistep and bitterblossom I did not really expect to be banned...

Rest for most part made sense, those suppise me tho to a point..

Really wish that hadn't banned Mistep tho, that just seems wrong..

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Originally posted by Mwapo:
It wouldn't be so bad if Vial had jumped on the list too. Vial + no mental misstep = victorious decks winning alot.

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Yea mental Mistep was there to stop alot of early nastyness, and now, well it's gone :P...

Curious to see what ends up being t1, t2, etc...

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Yea mental Mistep was there to stop alot of early nastyness, and now, well it's gone :P...

Curious to see what ends up being t1, t2, etc...

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and I agree, I dont see Vial lasting long, and Mental will probally come off to help keep Zoo in check.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Upside is that even WoTC says the banned list will change, seems they made this for the Pro Tour, and will be useing that to gain more data and what needs to be banned still, and what needs to come off.

and I agree, I dont see Vial lasting long, and Mental will probally come off to help keep Zoo in check.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Wow, what a savage, savages banlist. It's like thy banned the key cards of every single tier 1 deck, except zoo. So, play zoo I guess? Or TaN, LOL.

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Zoo, 12Post, Jund, those seem to be the big 3...

Evrything else is a wait and see at the pro tour...

Kind of curious to see if anything new comes up...

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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
Gofy is going To be big again.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Until they ban it for "format warping" like JTMS and Bitterblossom.

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Example

Fae was about to rotate out of extended, when the upcoming extended season was going to be shards and up, dump bitterblossom.

Modern is announced in the community cup, with a banlist, pick up bitterblossoms

Modern is announced as a format, still pick up bitterblossoms

New modern ban list comes out, and bitterblossom is banned.

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Originally posted by Eatatjoes:
If wizards wants anyone to take them seriously, they need to reprint the shocklands fast, before it starts getting out of hand. Guarantee they are going to do it, but they need to do it sooner then later. They want modern to be a cheaper alternative to legacy, but to play the format, you need dual lands, that are only good in that format, and suck in legacy and vintage, and there prices are already getting insane. Even when the format was just speculation, the price on shocks shot up. They need to be open with the community, and have communication, to let people know whats going on. How many people have dumped old extended and type 2 cards, then picked them up again, then dumped them again, when they changed extended overnight, and then when people think its safe to finally pick stuff up, they give extended the axe.

Example

Fae was about to rotate out of extended, when the upcoming extended season was going to be shards and up, dump bitterblossom.

Modern is announced in the community cup, with a banlist, pick up bitterblossoms

Modern is announced as a format, still pick up bitterblossoms

New modern ban list comes out, and bitterblossom is banned.

Now bitterblossom can be any other card, im just using it as an example, but come on wizards, give us a break, its getting tiring already. All the back and forth, and letting speculation run rampant needs to stop.

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Originally posted by -PoX-:
Shock lands will go back down in a month or two when people pipe down and realize that modern is basically extended and they don't need more shock lands now than they did when extended was in full swing and they were going for 8-12$.

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Allied 2-color decks will utilize the Scars duals along with the filterlands. Enemy 2-color decks have fetchlands and filterlands.

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Originally posted by -PoX-:
Shock lands will go back down in a month or two when people pipe down and realize that modern is basically extended and they don't need more shock lands now than they did when extended was in full swing and they were going for 8-12$.

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Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
I just seeing it becoming a niche format that only is relevant for a small fraction of the year.

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Probably. This is what I didn't like about extended anyways. Any LGS I ever went to never had extended. When they did it was just regulars playing for a few months when it was in season. blah.

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Of blue cards that are legal in Modern, Mental Misstep is the most played in Legacy, and it also has one of the more damaging effects on Modern by sitting on beatdown decks that want to start on turn one. We chose to ban it rather than put that much pressure on beatdown decks.

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Everything in the article I took with a grain pf salt and had a "yeah, okay, sure" attitude until that. They don't want 3-turn kills, fine. But, then they neuter control. Blah blah.

I'll still play the format if some place around here would actually support it at all though.

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Originally posted by -PoX-:
Shock lands will go back down in a month or two when people pipe down and realize that modern is basically extended and they don't need more shock lands now than they did when extended was in full swing and they were going for 8-12$.

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*puts on old man hat*

I remember when old extended had duals and FOW and those cards were about 7-15ish. So the shocklands will go down. Hell ill unload all my and then pick them back up when they go down.

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Originally posted by super324:
*puts on old man hat*

I remember when old extended had duals and FOW and those cards were about 7-15ish. So the shocklands will go down. Hell ill unload all my and then pick them back up when they go down.

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Originally posted by Malice327:
they are just being careful. They can always unban cards. I just don't get why bitterblossom was banned when they created cards specifically designed to destroy faeries anyway, that led to G/W tokens and B/W tokens taking top spots.

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THIS. Times a thousand, and hammered violently into the skull of all the whiny ****s on Wizard's forums who seem to think that banlists are completely permanent and irreversible. Or, in a simpler phrase, hammered violently into the skull of all the idiots.

Honestly, I don't see Vial being a huge deal in this format. Its not like affinity is around or anything (at least in its old form) Yeah merfolk gets it, but when Zoo is running around, that makes it a lot worse.

The reason they nuked the cards they did was to make a completely new format. The format would have been Zoo, Stoneforge Decks, Faeries and then everyone else.

They want a format where either aggro decks can play or we see completely new stuff, like Tooth and Nail that hasn't seen serious play in years.