Your statements should be "HE IS NOT LEGIT. DO NOT BID."

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Originally posted by caquaa:
I still don't understand how some people are saying, "well, he might be legit if... but I really don't think so."

Your statements should be "HE IS NOT LEGIT. DO NOT BID."

there is no maybe involved.

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Originally posted by hammr7:
The motto should always be "they are worth bulk until proven otherwise!". The pricing for the auction is really ridiculous, given that I could fill 3 or 4 boxes with bulk cards from A/B/U, Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends and The Dark. Even with bulk from the right sets they might not be worth the current bid. Especially if the the A/B/U was filled with played Unlimited basic lands and commons. There are enough bulk commons in Antiquities and Legends that full boxes don't have to be worth more than a few hundred dollars.

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People saw the Beta Armageddon in there so they think there could be other hidden treasures.

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Originally posted by majicman:
Well I live 90 minutes away from this location and have sent him an email saying would like to see this in person before placing a bid. If it is legit, he will respond.

Otherwise, I would suggest steer clear of this one until confirmation. This does seem to have the makings of a scam.

We shall see....Greg

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Folks,

Here is what I asked, here is what he responded. Let the buyer beware on this one....Greg

Dear grbgames,

No, I do bussiness on ebay for this reason instead of craigslist.

- gjakogi Click "respond" to reply through Messages, or go to your email to reply

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From: grbgames
To: gjakogi
Subject: Other: grbgames sent a message about Massive Magic The Gathering Collection Mixed Lot #260875173872
Sent Date: Oct-25-11 13:43:29 PDT

Dear gjakogi,

Hi,

Was just wondering if you had time for a "closer inspection" of the collection as I about 2 hours away and would like to place a high bid.

Please let me know as I am highly interested.

Thanks...Greg

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Originally posted by Devonin:
If they've taken the time to realise that 'Alpha/Beta/Unlimited' is the kind of labelling that means the boxes contain cards that are worth a 3+ thousand dollar purchase price, then they know enough to know that there are cards that might be in those boxes that are individually worth double that and more.

Anybody who puts a Magic lot on eBay and knows the kind of knowledge this person obviously has, would know better than to not look and see if there's a lotus in there. That's the part that makes this obviously a scam.

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Originally posted by Teferi Planeswalker:
I have never thought of it like this. The Chas Andres article on channel fireball assessed the risk involved in buying lots like these and people who bid 3k on lots like these are most likely trying to flip it for a profit anyways and I dont have much sympathy for people who lose money like that.

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
I have a problem with people who have no idea what they're doing trying to hustle. Learn what you're doing first.

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There are enough loop-holes to tell you not to put in a $3000 bid:

1) Most collections will have different editions in them. If you use probability, the top 8 revealed cards should come from a mix of editions, not all A/B. If I am doing these, I will use a mix of A/B/Legends/UNL for the top 8 cards

2) If the 8 stacks are really A/B cards, the white side of the cards are too white and clean to be A/B cards. If I do this, I will use some VG-EX cards to be at the bottom, so that the white side will appear to be yellowish and SP.

Anyone bidding over $3000 on this auction lacks critical thinking skills. Maybe the $3000+ payment will be a good "school fee" to teach him to think more critically in the future.

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Originally posted by MTDetermine:
I still think this is not a scam. Just a savvy seller taking advantage of people's greedy (and brainless) nature.

There are enough loop-holes to tell you not to put in a $3000 bid:

1) Most collections will have different editions in them. If you use probability, the top 8 revealed cards should come from a mix of editions, not all A/B. If I am doing these, I will use a mix of A/B/Legends/UNL for the top 8 cards

2) If the 8 stacks are really A/B cards, the white side of the cards are too white and clean to be A/B cards. If I do this, I will use some VG-EX cards to be at the bottom, so that the white side will appear to be yellowish and SP.

Anyone bidding over $3000 on this auction lacks critical thinking skills. Maybe the $3000+ payment will be a good "school fee" to teach him to think more critically in the future.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Why? You have a problem with people trying to make money?

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Originally posted by MTDetermine:
I still think this is not a scam. Just a savvy seller taking advantage of people's greedy (and brainless) nature.

There are enough loop-holes to tell you not to put in a $3000 bid:

1) Most collections will have different editions in them. If you use probability, the top 8 revealed cards should come from a mix of editions, not all A/B. If I am doing these, I will use a mix of A/B/Legends/UNL for the top 8 cards

2) If the 8 stacks are really A/B cards, the white side of the cards are too white and clean to be A/B cards. If I do this, I will use some VG-EX cards to be at the bottom, so that the white side will appear to be yellowish and SP.

Anyone bidding over $3000 on this auction lacks critical thinking skills. Maybe the $3000+ payment will be a good "school fee" to teach him to think more critically in the future.

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This is a scam. Some people are greedy. Some people are stupid. Some are both greedy and stupid, but it doesn't mean they deserve to get ripped off 3k+.

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Originally posted by simbayu:
This is a scam. Some people are greedy. Some people are stupid. Some are both greedy and stupid, but it doesn't mean they deserve to get ripped off 3k+.

How would you feel if someone ripped you off 3k+?

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I would feel greedy and stupid.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
People saw the Beta Armageddon in there so they think there could be other hidden treasures.

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Originally posted by Browbeater:
It closed at 8k.

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Originally posted by MTDetermine:
I still think this is not a scam. Just a savvy seller taking advantage of people's greedy (and brainless) nature.

There are enough loop-holes to tell you not to put in a $3000 bid:

1) Most collections will have different editions in them. If you use probability, the top 8 revealed cards should come from a mix of editions, not all A/B. If I am doing these, I will use a mix of A/B/Legends/UNL for the top 8 cards

2) If the 8 stacks are really A/B cards, the white side of the cards are too white and clean to be A/B cards. If I do this, I will use some VG-EX cards to be at the bottom, so that the white side will appear to be yellowish and SP.

Anyone bidding over $3000 on this auction lacks critical thinking skills. Maybe the $3000+ payment will be a good "school fee" to teach him to think more critically in the future.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
People saw the Beta Armageddon in there so they think there could be other hidden treasures.

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.. What Beta Armageddon?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
.. What Beta Armageddon?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by Nitelite:
I am a little surprised at you MTDetermine. I wouldn't expect one of your reputation to defend such a practice. As someone who is engaged in more magic transactions than the vast majority of us, I would expect you and people like you to champion integrity and honesty. Please clarify your remarks.

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How is he defending the practice? He's just stating that people to spend $3000+ bidding on this collection should understand the risks involved in doing so. Seems to make sense to me. Caveat Emptor etc etc etc