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Topic: Vanishing 3-Card Blind Tournament, Round 3
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yakusoku
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posted November 15, 2011 01:07 AM
      
NOTE: Mind Twist is banned.3-Card Blind (3CB) is a very unique game. The rules are as follows: * At the beginning of your turn, you may put a basic land token of your choice onto the battlefield untapped. If you do, this counts as your one land per turn. This does not need to be part of your hand/deck/library. You can get a free basic land every turn.
* Your deck is composed of 3 cards, all of which start in your hand.
* You have no library (technically, the library exists, but starts at 0 cards) and no sideboard (Wishes fetch nothing).
* Random effects always go against the owner of the card.
* You can see your opponent's hand, so you can always make the best possible play.
* You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
* You will play each opponent twice, once going first, once going second.
* For each win, you score 3.
* For each draw, you score 1.
* For each loss, you get nothing.
* A subgame played with the card Shahrazad where neither player has any means to win the subgame will result in an incomplete game and both players will receive ZERO points for that game, since the main game cannot be resumed. Neither player loses or draws, so neither player earns any points.
* Other than the aforementioned, EVERYTHING IS HANDLED EXACTLY LIKE A REAL GAME OF MAGIC!
If you want to play PM me or send me an e-mail in this format:
Card #1
Card #2
Card #3
Be sure you really are happy with your deck before you submit. Once you send in a deck, there is no changing it except in the case of an illegal entry.
Please make every effort to spell your card names correctly. To start off with Unglued, Unhinged and Ante cards and the cards on the list are banned. After each round, the 3 cards in the winning deck plus any cards in more than 1/3 of the decks played will be banned for all future rounds. NO MISE DECKS! Any deck submitted MUST have some win condition. Any deck that can do no better than a draw against any possible deck will be rejected. A deck that can't win any game is mathematically eliminated from winning the round, and thus would just be taking a chance to win away from someone who could actually have a shot. ALL players will assist in judging. The way this will work is that after the submission period is over, After all decks are revealed, judge your own deck against every other deck (going first and going second). Post your findings here in this thread. They will be reviewed by everyone for accuracy. Once a winner is determined the winners deck will be added to the banned list and the next round will begin. Repeated failure to do your own scoring will result in suspensions!
--------------Current banned list--------------
All Unglued cards
All Unhinged cards
All Ante cards
All cards not appearing in Gatherer (World Champion, Shichifukujin Dragon, cards from a new set not yet released, etc.)
Multicolored: Gerrard's Verdict
Meddling Mage
Tidehollow Sculler Lands: Ancient Tomb
City of Traitors
Gaea's Cradle
Mishra's Workshop
Serra Sanctum
Tolarian Academy Artifacts: Black Lotus
Chrome Mox
Lion's Eye Diamond
Lotus Petal
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Mox Diamond
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Sol Ring Black: Blackmail
Cabal Therapy
Cry of Contrition
Dark Ritual
Duress
Funeral Charm
Hymn to Tourach
Inquisition of Kozilek
Mesmeric Fiend
Mind Twist
Smallpox
Thoughtseize
Unmask Blue: Force of Will
Laboratory Maniac
Piracy Charm
Wistful Thinking Green: Chancellor of the Tangle
Channel
Elvish Spirit Guide
Fastbond
Nature's Claim Red: Barbed Shocker
Burning Inquiry
Rite of Flame
Shocker
Simian Spirit Guide White: Balance
Oblivion Ring
[/b] Winning decks that caused cards to be banned (History): Round 1 - breaking the format, LemonMeringue: Chancellor of the Tangle
Chancellor of the Tangle
Wistful Thinking Round 2 - So good, his deck got Bant, yakusoku: Meddling Mage
Oblivion Ring
Nature's Claim Decklists: 1. yakusoku Skyshroud Cutter
Metamorphosis
Voidstone Gargoyle 2. Magic1264 Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith 3. WeedIan Lightning Bolt
Capsize
Soldevi Digger 4. Bl4ckM4ge Swiftfoot Boots
Dauthi Slayer
Unholy Strength 5. LemonMeringue Inkmoth Nexus
Ravenous Rats
Mind Swords 6. Numotflame96 Elves of Deep Shadow
Liliana of the Veil
Army of the Damned 7. ryan2754 Crash
Raze
Chancellor of the Forge 8. Myy Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Karakas
Red Sun's Zenith 9. dfitzg88 Chain of Smog
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Surgical Extraction
[Edited 1 times, lastly by yakusoku on November 17, 2011]
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Myy
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posted November 15, 2011 11:05 PM
  
did you figure out how to break mind twist?
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Alexisonfyre
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posted November 16, 2011 04:55 AM
Funny how a format that was designed to allow creativity was won two weeks in a row by disruption decks...
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yakusoku
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posted November 16, 2011 08:08 AM
Today is the LAST day to submit.
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LemonMeringue
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posted November 16, 2011 01:10 PM
No time to come up with a good deck, submitted a trollin bad deck.
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yakusoku
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posted November 16, 2011 01:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
did you figure out how to break mind twist?
*I* didn't. But, on second look it seems powerful enough that it's just going to warp the format, especially if you're on the play. The variability of the spell makes is potentially more dangerous than, say, Stupor, which only can be used in one way. Mind Twist can grab one card against a three-card combo deck, can grab two cards against midrange decks, and can grab all three cards against slower decks.
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yakusoku
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posted November 17, 2011 08:37 AM
The decklists have been posted.You may use other formats as well, but this one is a must. Also PLEASE make sure you use the proper deck number for your deck. Replace the '?' on the bottom line with the number next to your name on the decklist. Scoring: Play your deck against each other deck twice, once with you going first, once with them going first. Always remember that each deck is to be played perfectly. For each of the 2 games, score 3 points if your deck wins or 1 point if the game is a draw, with no points for a loss. Some examples:
2 wins (WW) is 6 points.
A win and a draw (WD) is 4 points.
A win and a loss (WL) is 3 points.
2 draws (DD) is 2 points.
A draw and a loss (DL) is 1 point.
2 losses (LL) is 0 points. Plug YOUR deck number into the ? below the ##, and your score against each deck into the other slots. Do not play your deck against itself. Just enter an 'x' in the chart under your deck number. Please copy-and-paste the following code into your Message box in order to assist you with scoring: code:
## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
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Myy
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posted November 17, 2011 09:03 AM
I don't get this, is tehre something I'm not seeing?
Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith
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yakusoku
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posted November 17, 2011 09:07 AM
Parallel LivesIf an effect would put one or more tokens onto the battlefield under your control, it puts twice that many of those tokens onto the battlefield instead. quote:
Rules:
At the beginning of your turn, you may put a basic land token of your choice onto the battlefield untapped. If you do, this counts as your one land per turn.
So, I think the idea is that he gets TWO lands every turn.
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LemonMeringue
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posted November 17, 2011 09:30 AM
1. yakusoku - LLSkyshroud Cutter
Metamorphosis
Voidstone Gargoyle 2. Magic1264 - LL Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith 3. WeedIan - WW Lightning Bolt
Capsize
Soldevi Digger 4. Bl4ckM4ge - WL Swiftfoot Boots
Dauthi Slayer
Unholy Strength 5. LemonMeringue Inkmoth Nexus
Ravenous Rats
Mind Swords 6. Numotflame96 Elves of Deep Shadow
Liliana of the Veil
Army of the Damned 7. ryan2754 - WW Crash
Raze
Chancellor of the Forge 8. Myy - LL Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Karakas
Red Sun's Zenith 9. dfitzg88 - WW Chain of Smog
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Surgical Extraction
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yakusoku
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posted November 17, 2011 09:40 AM
code:
## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL
01 X 6 0 6 6 6 6 6 6 42
1. yakusoku XX
Skyshroud Cutter
Metamorphosis
Voidstone Gargoyle
2. Magic1264 WW. I name Red Sun's Zenith and he can't win. 3. WeedIan LL. I can name either Lightning Bolt or Capsize, but he can use the other spell to remove my Gargoyle and use Digger to recur his spells. 4. Bl4ckM4ge WW. I name Dauthi Slayer and he can't win. 5. LemonMeringue WW. I name Ravenous Rats and he can't win with Inkmoth (I need 7 attacks; he needs 10). 6. Numotflame96 WW. I name Liliana of the Veil and win before he can cast Army of the Damned. 7. ryan2754 WW. I name Chancellor of the Forge, lose a Forest to Raze and win. 8. Myy WW. I name Red Sun's Zenith and win before Kozilek comes out. 9. dfitzg88 WW. I name Emrakul and he can't win with his other two spells.
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Myy
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posted November 17, 2011 11:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
Parallel LivesIf an effect would put one or more tokens onto the battlefield under your control, it puts twice that many of those tokens onto the battlefield instead. So, I think the idea is that he gets TWO lands every turn.
Oh, ok. I didn't realize the lands are tokens now
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yakusoku
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posted November 17, 2011 11:34 AM
I modified the rules slightly to state that you put a token on the battlefield to clear up any confusion in the first week when people weren't sure what I meant by that rule (people asked me how this was different from the normal rules of Magic which allow you to play one land per turn). The use of the tokens hopefully clarified that these were not actual cards that you had in your hand or were part of your decklist, but simply entered the battlefield, similar to how Bitterblossom works, giving you a token creature every turn. This is a corner case where the use of tokens rather than actual cards is important, but I could just as easily imagine that if I made a special zone with real cards, there were not only be confusion to changing the rules of Magic (like how the Star Trek CCG started using Q's tent), but there would also be other comparable strange interactions if these were real cards and could exist in other zones besides the battlefield.
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WeedIan
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posted November 17, 2011 06:50 PM
One of my best showings  ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL
03 6 6 x 6 0 6 6 6 2 38
1. yakusoku - WW
Skyshroud Cutter
Metamorphosis
Voidstone Gargoyle 2. Magic1264 - WW I can get digger/bolt online turn 3 and i outrace Parallel Live (Turn 3, 3 damage, turn 4 3 damage, turn 5 3 damage, turn 6 6 damage, turn 7 6 damage dead dead) Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith 3. WeedIan - XX Lightning Bolt
Capsize
Soldevi Digger 4. Bl4ckM4ge - WW Lightning Bolt says i win Swiftfoot Boots
Dauthi Slayer
Unholy Strength 5. LemonMeringue - LL Mind swords is real good Inkmoth Nexus
Ravenous Rats
Mind Swords 6. Numotflame96 - WW i can bolt vess and be able to bounce his lands before he hits 8 mana. Elves of Deep Shadow
Liliana of the Veil
Army of the Damned 7. ryan2754 - WW i can bolt the token that starts in play, then i can wait until turn 5 to play digger, if he tries to crash it i can bounce it then i can kill his token/Chancellor before he can play it again Crash
Raze
Chancellor of the Forge 8. Myy - WW Bolt/Digger = Death before Kozilek comes into play Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Karakas
Red Sun's Zenith 9. dfitzg88 DD - Extractions Bolt but i bounce lands forever. Chain of Smog
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by WeedIan on November 18, 2011]
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dfitzg88
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posted November 17, 2011 09:10 PM
code:
# 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TTL
9 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 x 2
3cb is not my forte
[Edited 3 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on November 18, 2011]
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Myy
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posted November 18, 2011 12:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
i surgical extraction his bolt after smogging, eventually casting emrakul. if he doesn't capsize EOT, he will eventually run out of mana as i'll keep taking new turns. if he doesn't capsize pre-combat, he loses lands. eventually, emrakul WILL kill him. it's inevitable
you're overthinking it, Ula has Pro Colored Spells.
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dfitzg88
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posted November 18, 2011 12:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
you're overthinking it, Ula has Pro Colored Spells.
what do you expect me to do, understand the rules and read my cards? the nerve of some people :P
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Numotflame96
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posted November 18, 2011 04:19 AM
## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL
05 0 0 0 6 0 X 6 6 6 241. yakusoku LL Skyshroud Cutter
Metamorphosis
Voidstone Gargoyle he gets the gargoyle naming liliana. he wins before i can cast army 2. Magic1264 LL Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith 1 i cast the elf
1 he casts wall
2 i use liliana for the discard. he has to pitch lives to keep going (4)
2 he gets land #2. now needs to cast the zenith or i make him discard it. he shoots me for 3 off the wall. (15 L)
3. i use discard with liliana and pass (5)
3 he gets land and shoots me for 2 (12L)
4 i pump liliana and pass (6)
4 he needs to shoot liliana or i kill half his lands. liliana goes to 3.
5 i charge liliana and pass (4)
5 he shoots me for 4 (8 L)
6 i charge and pass (5)
6 he shoots me for 5 (3L)
i charge liliana to 6 then he kills me next turn. 3. WeedIan LL Lightning Bolt
Capsize
Soldevi Digger 1 i cast the elf and pass.
2he bolts it.
2i play a land and pass.
2 he plays digger.
3 i play liliana and discard (4) his capsize and my army.
3 he uses his digger to bring back capsize(top of his grave) but can't cast it that turn.
4 i use lilana again (5), putting capsize on top of his grave, again.
4 his digs his capize again and still cant cast it.
5 i use liliana again, shooting down capsize and going to 6.
5 he now has mana to bring back capsize with digger then cast it to bounce liliana
6 i recast liliana and charge
6 he digs capsize again and uses it to bounce liliana (or i just makehim discard it)
7 i cast and use liliana
7 he digs and capsizes my land.
(7land)8 i use liliana.
8 he digs then capsizes lilian
(8land)9 i use liliana again.
9he digs and capsizes an land
(8land) i use liliana again
10 he capsizes liliana again
(9land) i cast lil again
11 he now has enough mana to dig and cast capsize twice, keeping me off liliana and my 10th land indefinitely. eventually he gets anough mana ot cast it 3 times in a turn and widdles me down to 1 land and bounces liliana so i can't cast it. then he keeps using buyback and slowly kills me with digging bolts
4. Bl4ckM4ge WW
Swiftfoot Boots
Dauthi Slayer
Unholy Strength i casth the elf
he gets a land.
i cast lilian and make him discard somehting. if he ever plays the slayer i just edict. i can beat down with the elf or kill with zombies
5. LemonMeringue LL
Inkmoth Nexus
Ravenous Rats
Mind Swords on the play i cast the elf, he plays the nexus, then i cast liliana and use the discard. he just pitches the swords because it becomes uselss. he beats me down withthe nexus and i can't edict or block it so ose the race.
6. Numotflame96 XX
Elves of Deep Shadow
Liliana of the Veil
Army of the Damned 7. ryan2754 WW Crash
Raze
Chancellor of the Forge he gets a token. i cas the elf. he can raze. if he attack with the token i just trade then cast liliana and discard the chancellor and eventually cast the army. 8. Myy WW Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Karakas
Red Sun's Zenith liliana on turn 2 keeps him locked off his win con because it keep rsz shuffling to the bottom since its a random effect. i get to 10 mana before he does since the elf put me ahead a turns. 9. dfitzg88 WW Chain of Smog
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Surgical Extraction i just slow roll this deck. i don't cast anything. he can smog me i pitch liliana and the elf. i get to 8 mana, cast the army and beat him before he gets emrakul.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Numotflame96 on November 18, 2011]
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Magic1264
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posted November 18, 2011 09:21 AM
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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL
02 0 X 0 6 6 6 6 6 6 36
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Numotflame96
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posted November 18, 2011 10:19 AM
i beleive for the 9 v 3 match it ends up in a draw both times.9 casts chain smog hitting everything besides the digger then gets to extract bolt or lose. before emrakul comes down 3 gets to use the digger to bring back the capsize and bounce lands so that 9 never gets to 15 mana for emrakul but he can't win because he doesn't ever get the bolt.
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dfitzg88
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posted November 18, 2011 10:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Numotflame96:
i beleive for the 9 v 3 match it ends up in a draw both times.9 casts chain smog hitting everything besides the digger then gets to extract bolt or lose. before emrakul comes down 3 gets to use the digger to bring back the capsize and bounce lands so that 9 never gets to 15 mana for emrakul but he can't win because he doesn't ever get the bolt.
oh i didnt read capsize. yeah he just pops my lands forever. will edit
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s14sh3r
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posted November 19, 2011 07:10 AM
2 v 3 matchred zenith beats lightning bolt both games (someone copied results without actually checking :P)
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ryan2754
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posted November 20, 2011 08:49 AM
## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL
07 0 0 0 0 0 0 x 0 6 6
Yeah, not good.
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B14ckM4g3
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posted November 20, 2011 11:41 AM
1. yakusoku LLSkyshroud Cutter
Metamorphosis
Voidstone Gargoyle 2. Magic1264 WL Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith 3. WeedIan LL Lightning Bolt
Capsize
Soldevi Digger 4. Bl4ckM4ge XX Swiftfoot Boots
Dauthi Slayer
Unholy Strength 5. LemonMeringue WL Inkmoth Nexus
Ravenous Rats
Mind Swords 6. Numotflame96 LL (damn lily, why you so mean?) Elves of Deep Shadow
Liliana of the Veil
Army of the Damned 7. ryan2754 WW Crash
Raze
Chancellor of the Forge 8. Myy WL Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Karakas
Red Sun's Zenith 9. dfitzg88 WW Chain of Smog
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Surgical Extraction And I think that's correct, unless I missed something. 7 wins for 21 points, no draws, no points for losses.
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yakusoku
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posted November 21, 2011 04:00 PM
There are two issues this week:#2 vs. #4:
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Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith 4 Swiftfoot Boots
Dauthi Slayer
Unholy Strength When #4 goes first: B: Swamp
M: Forest, Tinder Wall
B: Swamp, Swiftfoot Boots. If B plays Dauthi Slayer, M will RSZ it and win for sure.
M: Mountain, Parallel Lives
B: Swamp, Dauthi Slayer, Unholy Strength, equip, attack for 4
M: Forest x2, RSZ for 3
B: attack for 4
M: Forest x2, RSZ for 5
B: attack for 4
M: Forest x2, RSZ for 7
B: attack for 4
M: Forest x2, RSZ for 9, win. Similarly when on the draw. #2 vs. #3: Tinder Wall
Parallel Lives
Red Sun's Zenith Lightning Bolt
Capsize
Soldevi Digger W1: Mountain
M: Forest, Tinder Wall (W L. Bolts it)
W2: Island, Soldevi Digger
M: Mountain
W3: get back L. Bolt, play Mountain, L. Bolt (20-17)
M: Forest
W4: get back L. Bolt, play Island, L. Bolt (20-14)
M: Mountain, Parallel Lives
W5: get back L. Bolt, play Island, L. Bolt (20-11)
M: Mountain x2, RSZ for 5 (15-11)
W6: get back L. Bolt, play Island, L. Bolt (15-8)
M: Mountain x2, RSZ for 7 (8-8)
W7: get back L. Bolt, play Island, L. Bolt (8-5)
M: Mountain x2, RSZ for 9, win. Am I missing something? WeedIan claims he can Bolt on turn 5, then double bolt on turn 6, then double bolt on turn 7. I don't see how this works.
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