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intelli78
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posted November 22, 2011 03:36 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for intelli78 Click Here to Email intelli78 Send a private message to intelli78 Click to send intelli78 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Longevity/durability of cards is something I have been thinking about lately, but there is a lack of data. Basically, how much longer can we expect A/B/U/R cards to remain playable? I don't think there's an imminent problem; seems like old cards are holding up fine. But the reality of the situation is that the first printings are going on 20 years. That's some really old cardboard to be shuffling and bending.

Does anyone have (preferably scientific) info? All I can share is an anecdote I once heard (random guy who purportedly had friends at Carta Mundi) that the ink in the original sets was only made to last 20-30 years, at which time it starts to bleed. Based on some of the betas out there w/ fuzzy text etc, I wonder if there is some truth to that. Still, the cardboard/paper aspect seems more fragile to me on the face of it.

Any other info?

 
caquaa
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posted November 22, 2011 03:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
Treat your cards well, they'll last forever.
 
intelli78
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posted November 22, 2011 03:44 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for intelli78 Click Here to Email intelli78 Send a private message to intelli78 Click to send intelli78 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
Treat your cards well, they'll last forever.

Solid advice, certainly no objections here. You raise a valid point: It may be the case that these cards, properly treated, will outlive us. Mainly I am interested to know, out of curiosity, whether there are facts that bear that out.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by intelli78 on November 22, 2011]

 
skizzikmonger
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posted November 22, 2011 06:27 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for skizzikmonger Click Here to Email skizzikmonger Send a private message to skizzikmonger Click to send skizzikmonger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by intelli78:
Solid advice, certainly no objections here. You raise a valid point: It may be the case that these cards, properly treated, will outlive us. Mainly I am interested to know, out of curiosity, whether there are facts that bear that out.

Here's your facts

 
coasterdude84
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posted November 22, 2011 07:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for coasterdude84 Click Here to Email coasterdude84 Send a private message to coasterdude84 Click to send coasterdude84 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View coasterdude84's Trade Auction or SaleView coasterdude84's Trade Auction or Sale
Or, if you don't believe that, I own these:

Tinker
Brown

Plus, considering there are still several copies of the Magna Carta and Gutenberg Bible still in existence, I wouldn't worry about them going anywhere, so long as you take care of them.

 
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posted November 22, 2011 08:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for isetfire Click Here to Email isetfire Send a private message to isetfire Click to send isetfire an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Does that tinker get BSC?

If you take of the cards they will outlive us, but they are still paper and will deteriorate eventually. Plastic slabs should help prevent this.

 
coasterdude84
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BSC? As in biological safety cabinet?

I think it's safe to say the life of any given Magic card is in excess of 100 years, so I wouldn't worry about it unless you've got reeeeeeeeeeeeally good health care. They'll probably then all be worth a ton of money, but none of us will be around to care.

 
Zakman86
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
BSC? As in biological safety cabinet?

I think it's safe to say the life of any given Magic card is in excess of 100 years, so I wouldn't worry about it unless you've got reeeeeeeeeeeeally good health care. They'll probably then all be worth a ton of money, but none of us will be around to care.


Tinker doesn't go to Brown, he goes to Evers, then to Chance :\ you need to finish your early 1900s Chicago infield, sir.

 
coasterdude84
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quote:
Originally posted by Zakman86:
Tinker doesn't go to Brown, he goes to Evers, then to Chance :\ you need to finish your early 1900s Chicago infield, sir.

Haha, yeah, and the Brown card shows him as having all 5 fingers on his right hand, when it really looked like this. I've actually got a Frank Chance coming. (For those who don't know, in 1910 there was a lexicon written in a newspaper that said the saddest words in all of baseball are "Tinker to Evers to Chance," referring to the famous double play trio. Curiously though, in 1910, they only actually turned something like 11 double plays.)Haven't been able to find Johnny Evers though.
However, without looking it up, do you know who played 3rd to complete the infield?

Sorry for the thread derailment, but this is kinda fun.

 
bushe
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Haha, yeah, and the Brown card shows him as having all 5 fingers on his right hand, when it really looked like this. I've actually got a Frank Chance coming. (For those who don't know, in 1910 there was a lexicon written in a newspaper that said the saddest words in all of baseball are "Tinker to Evers to Chance," referring to the famous double play trio. Curiously though, in 1910, they only actually turned something like 11 double plays.)Haven't been able to find Johnny Evers though.
However, without looking it up, do you know who played 3rd to complete the infield?

Sorry for the thread derailment, but this is kinda fun.


I was about to point out the comedic value of three-fingers brown having a card showing at least 4 fingers on it, obviously the creative team back then wasn't as good.

 
CubFan81
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
However, without looking it up, do you know who played 3rd to complete the infield?

Sorry for the thread derailment, but this is kinda fun.


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