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Topic: Buying habits
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keywacat
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posted December 02, 2011 05:37 AM
        
Have any of you lot changed your card buying habits concerning cards with a reprint potential lately? After Entomb came out in Graveborn I rethought the cards I was looking to buy. My thinking is that WotC proved that anything not on the reserved list is fair game and once a card gets above, say, $10 I should just wait for a reprint.The exceptions are block-specific cards, like Spellskite or Mox Opal. I do not regret buying foils of those, but think I really should not have bought the Sword of War and Peace. The swords can go into any set, even the core set, but Spellskite and Mox Opal cannot. What do you guys think? Cards I have decided to wait for reprints on given current prices are: Death Baron (could be reprinted anytime, I think)
Tarmogoyf (Innistrad looks like a good place for it)
Sword of Feast & Famine (long wait, I think)
Onslaught Fetch Lands (anytime)
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dwiz
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posted December 02, 2011 06:39 AM
I wouldn't hold your breath for a Tarmogoyf reprint.
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keywacat
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posted December 02, 2011 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
I wouldn't hold your breath for a Tarmogoyf reprint.
Why not? It is guaranteed to move product if reprinted and WotC does like to shake things up by surprising us. As with Lightning Bolt and the opposing fetchlands, for example. I read many posts saying the fetchlands would never get printed, and well, they did. Why not Tarmogoyf or anything else?
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Hooskdaddy
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posted December 02, 2011 07:19 AM
the fetch lands didnt get reprinted. They added the enemy colors. So that being said, expect this card. It being the opposite of Tarmogoyf but still the same.Deathofgoyf(mythic because WOTC is cruel like that) CC: 1B P/T 8-*/9-* Deathofgoyf gets -x/-x for all card types NOT found in a graveyard. All graveyards count.
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daner
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posted December 02, 2011 09:03 AM
Well.....Wizards did say they plan to re-visit Ravnica. So I'd expect the Shock Lands to come back. If and when that is the case they wont go up, the market will be flooded.
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D'Shay
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posted December 02, 2011 09:50 AM
isn't the concept of "future sight" to show what they will bring to the future? so it SHOULD get reprinted i would think...just based on the concept of future sight
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Lord Crovax
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posted December 02, 2011 09:56 AM
Even if Goyf doesn't see set reprint doesn't mean we wont see a Judge Promo, FTV, GP Promo, other Box Set reprint of him.Death Barron will likly get reprinted a few times in various Commander, Planechase, Duel Deck sets. I also expect rare lands to eventually see reprint in Commander/Planchase as wizards realizes thats what we want, and just gives in to it, after all they already started to do so with the Event Decks. I also see FTV: Set mechanics happing sooner or latter, that or FTV: Block Sets. Basically show casing old mechanics/blocks from MM up.. __________________
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thror
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posted December 02, 2011 10:22 AM
Wizards R&D stated Goyf was a mistake and that they would NOT be reprinting him in a real set. Future-Shifted cards are just 'possible futures', none of them actually HAVE to be printed again.As far as 'buying habits', it really sounds like you're interested in our 'collecting/investing habits'. Nothing has changed here, I dont collect/invest. I obtain the cards needed to build the decks I want to play. I care zero if stuff gets reprinted. __________________
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Jtrade77
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posted December 02, 2011 10:25 AM
I have. I've mostly stopped spending on paper cards and went digital.
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rats60
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posted December 02, 2011 10:31 AM
What do you guys think? Cards I have decided to wait for reprints on given current prices are:Death Baron- Already has, probably will be again.
Tarmogoyf- Never
Sword of Feast & Famine- Very unlikely
Onslaught Fetch Lands- Possible Tarmo and Sword may get the judge treatment like the fetches, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a mass reprint dropping their value.
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harbingerofthevoid
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posted December 02, 2011 10:47 AM
OT: What is Death Baron being used in to command a $10+ price tag?
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CubFan81
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posted December 02, 2011 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
OT: What is Death Baron being used in to command a $10+ price tag?
Commander. A whole slew of new Zombies from Innistrad and presumably Dark Ascension and "Roll". quote:
Originally posted by D'Shay:
isn't the concept of "future sight" to show what they will bring to the future? so it SHOULD get reprinted i would think...just based on the concept of future sight
As someone else already pointed out, Future Sight didn't show the future, it showed possible futures. A card like Boldwyr Intimidator was reprinted but Goldmeadow Lookout which could have only been reprinted in Lorwyn or Morningtide was not. __________________
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keywacat
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posted December 04, 2011 02:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by thror:
As far as 'buying habits', it really sounds like you're interested in our 'collecting/investing habits'. Nothing has changed here, I dont collect/invest. I obtain the cards needed to build the decks I want to play. I care zero if stuff gets reprinted.
But when buying cards for your deck do you have a certain price threshold? And has that threshlod changed with the reprint policy? I bought DCI Grim Lavamancers, for example, only to see them reprinted and the price drop. That irritated me as I did not *need* them then and could have got them cheaper by waiting. Other cards are only going to keep going up, waiting for those to reprinted is futile. The problem is sorting out the two. And WotC stating Tarmogoyf was a mistake does not prevent them from changing that decision when the standard environment can handle it.
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thror
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posted December 04, 2011 01:31 PM
Its really simple - if i need X card for a deck, i buy/trade for it. I dont go get the Judge Promo copy, or jap foil. My duals are revised, my jaces and goyfs are english nonfoil. I dont feel the need to spend 2-3x as much for the same exact card. It doesnt make my deck better.__________________
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Bagbokk
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posted December 04, 2011 01:44 PM
I don't change my buying habits because I don't tend to keep cards for very long and I don't buy them at full market value... if I do it's because they're going in a deck that I actively play. I don't buy cards to have sit around; if they're sitting around, it's because they're bulk rares that can only stay at 0.12 or go up in the future, not because it's a $50 rare that could go up or down. I have a mono-black deck I'm trying to build and it requires 4 Confidants. I have 1 right now and 6 incoming, and I expect to put all of them on my sale list because I'm not currently playing that deck. I'll buy them back up again if I start.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on December 04, 2011]
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dwiz
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posted December 04, 2011 02:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by keywacat:
Why not? It is guaranteed to move product if reprinted and WotC does like to shake things up by surprising us. As with Lightning Bolt and the opposing fetchlands, for example. I read many posts saying the fetchlands would never get printed, and well, they did.Why not Tarmogoyf or anything else?
No Tarmogoyf because it's an admitted mistake by WotC. They don't want every deck splashing green just to play him again.
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mm1983
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posted December 07, 2011 04:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hooksdaddy:
the fetch lands didnt get reprinted. They added the enemy colors. So that being said, expect this card. It being the opposite of Tarmogoyf but still the same.
Deathofgoyf(mythic because WOTC is cruel like that)CC: 1B P/T 8-*/9-* Deathofgoyf gets -x/-x for all card types NOT found in a graveyard. All graveyards count.
There's no way they would make another 2 cost creature thats just as powerful as tarmogoyf. I think it could be 8B to cast and cost 1 less to cast for each card type in ALL graveyards with the ability of power and toughness equal to the card types in ALL graveyards. This would limit it as far as how fast it would be able to be put into play but still have the potential to be a 1 or 2 cost 7/8 or 8/9.
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bigballashotcaller
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posted December 07, 2011 06:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by thror:
Wizards R&D stated Goyf was a mistake and that they would NOT be reprinting him in a real set. Future-Shifted cards are just 'possible futures', none of them actually HAVE to be printed again.
Source?
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caquaa
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posted December 07, 2011 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by bigballashotcaller:
Source?
articles on the mothership. Goyf cost 3 mana during all of play testing but at the last minute was changed to 2 mana and was not tested at the new cost. I'm sure you can search around and find some articles discussing him.
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Th3Sparkl3r
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posted December 07, 2011 04:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
articles on the mothership. Goyf cost 3 mana during all of play testing but at the last minute was changed to 2 mana and was not tested at the new cost. I'm sure you can search around and find some articles discussing him.
From Rosewater himself: http://www.wizards.com/MagiC/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/67 __________________
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-PoX-
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posted December 07, 2011 06:38 PM
Ok go nuts.
Don't want to buy X card? Well are you ready to wait 5-10 years for it to be reprinted just in case you stand to lose 10 dollars?And don't forget that good cards can lose value simply by being outclassed by better ones. Though that's happening slower and slower these days.
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RJM
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posted December 07, 2011 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by -PoX-:
Ok go nuts.
Don't want to buy X card? Well are you ready to wait 5-10 years for it to be reprinted just in case you stand to lose 10 dollars?And don't forget that good cards can lose value simply by being outclassed by better ones. Though that's happening slower and slower these days.
...Oh, my poor Morphling. I still try to make use of you in janky legacy decks from time to time. I'm waiting on a reprint of that one. ...At 1UU to cast. :-P
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caquaa
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posted December 07, 2011 07:10 PM
I'm not sure that's the article I had in mind. Did a little searching and couldn't find the one where it talks about the costs being changed on goyf.
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simbayu
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posted December 07, 2011 10:51 PM
The 3 scenerios I mainly buy cards:
1. I'm desperate to finish a deck (very very seldom).
2. I feel I can resell the card back for at least the same price I bought it for.
3. Collections at a significant discount.For a long time I always felt the need to sell cards if I thought it was going to drop (type 2 cards mainly). Now I really don't care anymore. Its less stressful and to be honest I'm having more fun playing magic now than trying to min/max a card game. I wouldn't wait for a reprint. Be patient and wait for a good price on the cards and buy it. Its a game, have fun! -Henry
[Edited 2 times, lastly by simbayu on December 07, 2011]
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thror
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posted December 07, 2011 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
I'm not sure that's the article I had in mind. Did a little searching and couldn't find the one where it talks about the costs being changed on goyf.
The one i was referring to was published by Aaron Forsythe. Ill see if i cant dig it up. this one states it was actually Mike Turian to change it from 2G to 1G. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/170 wizards site is hell to actually search. uhg __________________
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