|
Author
|
Topic: y'know what grinds my gears?
|
B14ckM4g3
Member
|
posted January 24, 2012 09:57 PM
      
as topic says, y'know what grinds my gears?People making a list, and I actually read the rules when I check them. however, I hate reading through X rules to find, at the bottom: Only trading within the US What a waste of time. If your only going to trade within a certain area, How about posting that as rule number one? We all know 'no rippers' is a rule that we wish was abided. We all know references determine sending. But we don't know that you aren't willing to wait the extra day or two for a trade from Canada, although we do read your list with interest only to be dissapointed. Thanks.
|
Samite Healer
Member
|
posted January 24, 2012 11:21 PM
I agree that it's a pain in the ass to see that all the way at the bottom. However, I don't think it's the extra few days waiting to reach Canada, but rather it's the lack of cheap Delivery Confirmation outside the US.
|
flophaus
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 01:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Samite Healer:
I agree that it's a pain in the ass to see that all the way at the bottom. However, I don't think it's the extra few days waiting to reach Canada, but rather it's the lack of cheap Delivery Confirmation outside the US.
Yes. As a newer trader, I want no shenanigans. I cannot afford to screw up on a $4 trade, ya know? I am not anti-international, just not for small trades.
|
southparker2002
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 05:51 AM
 
quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
as topic says, y'know what grinds my gears?
How bread is square and bologna is round? lol
But I hate how people are like, "I can't afford to send outside the US." It's CHEAPER to send internationally than send inside the states!!!!!!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by southparker2002 on January 25, 2012]
|
skizzikmonger
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 07:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by southparker2002:
But I hate how people are like, "I can't afford to send outside the US." It's CHEAPER to send internationally than send inside the states!!!!!!
No it isn't. It's at best the same cost. If you want to send with some kind of confirmation/protection internationally it costs $14+, whereas it's $2.51 to send w/ DC inside the states.
|
nderdog
Moderator
|
posted January 25, 2012 07:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by southparker2002:
It's CHEAPER to send internationally than send inside the states!!!!!!
Unless you're talking about a heavy package within the US and a light package internationally, that's just flat-out wrong. Sure, if you add DC to the US package, it will cost a little more, but that's comparing apples to oranges. The same package sent the same way both places, the domestic one is always cheaper. __________________
There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
|
I3Iood
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 08:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
No it isn't. It's at best the same cost. If you want to send with some kind of confirmation/protection internationally it costs $14+, whereas it's $2.51 to send w/ DC inside the states.
DC really isn't protection, just a conformation. I would not compare that with the $14 international rate.
|
MAB_Rapper
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 09:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
No it isn't. It's at best the same cost. If you want to send with some kind of confirmation/protection internationally it costs $14+, whereas it's $2.51 to send w/ DC inside the states.
Actually, prices just went up on Monday. For 1-3 oz, the price is now $1.95. Delivery Confirmation is now $.85, which makes the total $2.80. Each additional ounce for first class above 3 oz id an additional $.17. I just came from the post office and am looking at my receipt as I type this. Time to up my shipping rates. __________________
MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009
(My 2008 Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
|
MeddlingMage
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 09:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Actually, prices just went up on Monday. For 1-3 oz, the price is now $1.95. Delivery Confirmation is now $.85, which makes the total $2.80. Each additional ounce for first class above 3 oz id an additional $.17. I just came from the post office and am looking at my receipt as I type this. Time to up my shipping rates.
Yup just came from the PO and sent to DC packages. Instead of my normal $2.51 with DC they were both $2.80 with it. ~MM __________________
I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em
MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner!CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button
|
coasterdude84
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 10:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Yup just came from the PO and sent to DC packages. Instead of my normal $2.51 with DC they were both $2.80 with it.~MM
Ditto.
|
echo part 4
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 07:35 PM
When people offer dumb trades.
|
Bagbokk
Member
|
posted January 25, 2012 08:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Actually, prices just went up on Monday. For 1-3 oz, the price is now $1.95. Delivery Confirmation is now $.85, which makes the total $2.80. Each additional ounce for first class above 3 oz id an additional $.17. I just came from the post office and am looking at my receipt as I type this. Time to up my shipping rates.
Yup. 2oz international is 3.78 or something now when it used to be 2.58 or so too... I tried 1oz and it was 3.00 but it's still more expensive.
|
stab107
Member
|
posted January 27, 2012 05:34 AM
Check out this guys rules for international traders. Yes, by reading that I agree....right...
|
Volcanon
Member
|
posted January 27, 2012 09:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Check out this guys rules for international traders. Yes, by reading that I agree....right...
Somebody needs a primer on contract law.
|
PortlisX
Member
|
posted January 27, 2012 06:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Check out this guys rules for international traders. Yes, by reading that I agree....right...
It's fine, trade with him anyway - just make sure not to read his rules ahead of time =P
|
Volcanon
Member
|
posted January 27, 2012 08:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PortlisX:
It's fine, trade with him anyway - just make sure not to read his rules ahead of time =P
Even though lots of companies like to say "you agree to this just by breathing air" and other silly stuff, none of this is actually binding. Unless you agree that by reading this, you will give me all of your rares.
|
Bagbokk
Member
|
posted January 28, 2012 12:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Actually, prices just went up on Monday. For 1-3 oz, the price is now $1.95. Delivery Confirmation is now $.85, which makes the total $2.80. Each additional ounce for first class above 3 oz id an additional $.17. I just came from the post office and am looking at my receipt as I type this. Time to up my shipping rates.
Just FYI, I printed out a few shipping labels from PayPal, you may really want to start doing so if there isn't a pressing reason not to... it's $1.64 for a 2oz package within the US, delivery confirmation included, so it's cheaper than it used to be. I did a 4oz one since I was shipping out a fair number of cards and it was still only like $1.81.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on January 28, 2012]
|
hilikuS
Member
|
posted January 28, 2012 08:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Just FYI, I printed out a few shipping labels from PayPal, you may really want to start doing so if there isn't a pressing reason not to... it's $1.64 for a 2oz package within the US, delivery confirmation included, so it's cheaper than it used to be. I did a 4oz one since I was shipping out a fair number of cards and it was still only like $1.81.
Yeah you can go up to 3oz for $1.64. I was pleased. International shipping rates seemed to have gone way way up though.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on January 28, 2012]
|
MAB_Rapper
Member
|
posted January 30, 2012 06:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Just FYI, I printed out a few shipping labels from PayPal, you may really want to start doing so if there isn't a pressing reason not to... it's $1.64 for a 2oz package within the US, delivery confirmation included, so it's cheaper than it used to be. I did a 4oz one since I was shipping out a fair number of cards and it was still only like $1.81.
Honestly, it gives me a reason to get away from my real job for 20-30 minutes, so I actually don't mind too much. Besides, it gives me lower net income, so it works out in more ways than one. __________________
MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009
(My 2008 Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
|
Reliquium
Member
|
posted January 31, 2012 02:50 PM
People manipulating a single pricing source to overvalue their cards and undervalue yours in an offer:Your Grand Abolisher is worth 6.99, and my Jace Beleren is worth 3.99? Might work if I had no concept of value besides what a single online store tells me... Very annoying.
|
gaeacradle
Member
|
posted January 31, 2012 06:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Reliquium:
People manipulating a single pricing source to overvalue their cards and undervalue yours in an offer:Your Grand Abolisher is worth 6.99, and my Jace Beleren is worth 3.99? Might work if I had no concept of value besides what a single online store tells me... Very annoying.
I see this situation a lot, especially when gathering values from like magiccards.info or something. Just because the Low value is a certain number, that doesn't mean that's how much the card is. I don't mind using sources like that, just be reasonable. A Low value can indicate a played card, so it shouldn't be used as the price for my NM card.
|
Reliquium
Member
|
posted January 31, 2012 07:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I see this situation a lot, especially when gathering values from like magiccards.info or something. Just because the Low value is a certain number, that doesn't mean that's how much the card is. I don't mind using sources like that, just be reasonable. A Low value can indicate a played card, so it shouldn't be used as the price for my NM card.
Yeah, I mean, all online store prices have their place, but it's good to know their buylist price too (and if they're even buying a card), along with a handful of other store's buy/sell prices, current eBay closings, MOTL guide...the more prices you know, the better sense you get of what stuff's worth. Even whether they have tons of a single in stock or are sold out of a card at a certain price can tell you something. I wouldn't mind so much, but 2/3s of PMs starting with "According to _____..." and then a silly offer, as if they have to pre-justify what they're about to propose.... Well, that really grinds my gears. :P
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Reliquium on January 31, 2012]
  |
PortlisX
Member
|
posted January 31, 2012 07:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
Yeah you can go up to 3oz for $1.64. I was pleased.International shipping rates seemed to have gone way way up though.
There needs to be more mention of this around these forums. International people really have no clue how much the rates just went up for us USA people to ship internationally. No matter how you do it, any bubble mailer is now a MINIMUM of $3.00 internationally. If you go up to 2oz, it's almost 4 bucks. If you can keep a package less than 1/4 of an inch thick though, it can be mailed as a "large envelope" and the rate is significantly less. Bottom line, it's getting less and less "worth it" to ship internationally. I really hope you friendly international customers don't start complaining though when I tell you that your order of 20 cards is going to cost $4.50 to ship, because that's now the reality. I'm really surprised there isn't more discussion about this around here, it's kind of a huge deal for those of us that ship quite a few things internationally.
|
dicemanxx
Member
|
posted February 01, 2012 07:56 AM
If shipping is really that high, then I'd request that my cards be mailed to me in a regular envelope to keep costs down. Bubble envelopes do practically nothing to ensure the safety of the cards unless perhaps you're being shipped a massive number - what matters much more is whether the cards are in something stiff/unbendable and taped down so they don't move freely inside that envelope.I've done more than a thousand transactions on this and other sites over the past 10 or so years, and didn't have a single instance of damage when cards were sent in a regular envelope as opposed to bubble envelope. If anything, sometimes bubble envelopes would arrive damaged (it looked like sorter damage) because the edges were not taped down by the sender.
|
caquaa
Member
|
posted February 01, 2012 09:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dicemanxx:
what matters much more is whether the cards are in something stiff/unbendable and taped down so they don't move freely inside that envelope.
this is what can get you in trouble with plain envelopes; toploaders can break through the envelope destroying it and potentially losing your card. I wish USPS would treat bubble mailers as a normal envelope all the time instead of when they randomly feel like it.
| |
Topic Closed
Magic Online Trading League Bulletin Board
UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! 
