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Originally posted by Speed Demon:
Ugh.. I am not sure what you are saying here. I don't remember if two-headed dragon or weatherseed treefolk saw any play but port/scroll/hermit did.

Port was definitely worth the price it had at the time.

If you're going to talk about standard cards that tanked in priced after rotation, call of the herd is a far better choice. Card was $20. Now $0.20.

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Over hyped Card i recall.

Thalia's Battalion "Next Tarm!"

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I thought this was overhyped not good cards that were re-printed but are no longer good in the formats they are legal in.

Over hyped Card i recall.

Thalia's Battalion "Next Tarm!"

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Agreed on both counts. Plenty of cards deserved the price they started out with. They were good in standard and then just lost all use when they rotated. Stuff like Masticore was worth a ton because, iirc, it was really good when it came out.

However, there are always those cards that just shoot up because of insane hype...then bottom out within a month or two of a set's release. As previously mentioned, non-Jace planeswalkers seem to fit this bill for the current era.

Going old school, Jester's Cap was one of those insane cards that pulled like $30 locally when Ice Age came out. I also remember so many cards from Legends that were worth a ton as well (carrion ants, killer bees). Although, I think that was largely because of the short supply of the set.

Balduvian Hordes was nuts. They were like $20 when Alliances came out. I don't even remember if the card ever saw any serious play.

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Originally posted by revenger:
I struggle to think of the overhyped cards but can think of 2 cards that were considered crap @ 1 time, but sure the hell aint now. Glimpse of Nature (I had X4 & traded em away @ .15 value) & Prismatic Omen. Also Ravages of War. ugh. ack.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Grave Titan, Phyrexian Obliterator, Geralf's Messenger, Gravecrawler (just to name a few). As for Obliterator, do you remember a card that came out in the same set that gave a creature -5/-5 at instant speed for some combination of 1 and B or 2 life and how it was played a lot? Yeah, me neither.

Obliterator isn't less then stellar because of it's power lever. It's less than stellar because of cards like Celestial Purge, Dismember, Go for the Throat, Oblivion Ring, and Tragic Slip if Morbid is triggered.

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Ah, good times.

A lot of those cards were completely justified, just lost value when they rotated.

Urza's rage. You will not find a card that did 3 damage to any target any better then urza's rage at that time. This card is clearly worse than lightning bolt and was a rare. The kicker and the uncounterable were extras, 3 for 3 was the best you could get.

COTH and Finkel were beasts in standard. They were by far the best cards at the time and if you played them you would know.

Masticore and Scuta were awesome in standard and justified their price. Masticore even went up when they printed Squee.

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Molten Tail Masticore and Skaab Ruinator. Still in standard and are hitting the bargain $1 mythic rares.

A lot of those cards were completely justified, just lost value when they rotated.

Urza's rage. You will not find a card that did 3 damage to any target any better then urza's rage at that time. This card is clearly worse than lightning bolt and was a rare. The kicker and the uncounterable were extras, 3 for 3 was the best you could get.

COTH and Finkel were beasts in standard. They were by far the best cards at the time and if you played them you would know.

Masticore and Scuta were awesome in standard and justified their price. Masticore even went up when they printed Squee.

It's very difficult for a card to survive the ages when you have like 12,000 cards to be compared against.

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Disagree on Finkel and Scuta.

The only good thing about Finkel was he helped created the Psycatog deck. It didn't take long for good players to realize that they'd rather have the fifty cent uncommon than the fifteen dollar rare.

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Urza's rage. You will not find a card that did 3 damage to any target any better then urza's rage at that time. This card is clearly worse than lightning bolt and was a rare. The kicker and the uncounterable were extras, 3 for 3 was the best you could get.

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There was volcanic hammer at the time.

Got about $20 in value for each in the weeks after the M10 release.

Also whoever said Seedtime. Heck yes on that one. Totally traded 2 of those and some other schwag for a Mishra's Workshop back in the day. It was awesome! Then I sold it for $45 before Mirrodin, and was like aww...

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Skaab Ruinator. Still in standard and are hitting the bargain $1 mythic rares.

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Yeah, I made a big mistake with the Ruinator. I didn't see the 'creature' restriction before pre-ordering mine. I still really like the card, but it's incredibly difficult to take proper advantage of it. The only redeeming feature, really, is that I made back the money I lost with the price I paid for SCM.

Sometimes I get carried away before I remember that just buying cards I don't need is basically gambling. And I suck at gambling.

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Originally posted by iccarus:

Balduvian Hordes was nuts. They were like $20 when Alliances came out. I don't even remember if the card ever saw any serious play.

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I do believe Balduvian Horde was played. I remember it remaining hyped when 6th edition came out, because people recalled when it was played. By 6th edition, good it was not.

As far as grinning cards go, Grinning Totem was a $20 card when Mirage came out. And just look at that card, and think if there is literally any use at any time in Magic history for it. Spoiler alert:

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
There was volcanic hammer at the time.

I recall basilisk collar was expensive without any real good reason.

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There was a good reason - Stoneforge mystic AND Cunning Sparkmage were in the same set. They were both used to good effect in the Naya Lightsaber deck.

Masticore was definitely not overhyped. Masticore decks were very competitive during its standard days.

Cursed Scroll was definitely very strong during its standard days. At that time, many creatures have toughness 2 or less, making cursed scroll perfect. The colorless damage also mean that for a white deck, you can kill black knight and vice-verse. Cursed Scroll is now weak because you have many 2 casting cost creature with toughness 3.