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MagicPatty
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Just thought it would be fun to recount some of the cards that have come out that received a ton of hyped during their prerelease / release, but never really made it into the competetive scene.

For me, I love thinking back to when Urza's Legacy came out. It had Ring of Gix, which was to be the new Icy Manipulator. This was great and all, but at that point, Magic and its player base had evolved from the earlier days when Icy was king. Ring of Gix showed up in a 10 dollar preconstructed deck, but demanded upwards of a 15 dollar price tag! The other card in the precon?... Urza's Blueprints, which started at 6 bucks! Granted, these prices were late '90s pre-internet prices, but I always thought that was kind of funny.

Fast forward a couple of years to Phyrexian Scuta. I was pretty young at the time he came out, so I was so thrilled with the idea of playing with the new Juzam Djinn! Turns out, he only needs to get bounced after you've paid 3 life for him a few times before you realize that the card is just straight garbage!

How about Sarkhan Vol? Did he make the roster on any winning teams? I think we were just so excited to have a new planeswalker at the time, and one with the word "dragons" on it, that he merited a 40 dollar presale price, ouch!

Anything comes to mind for you guys? I enjoy a good read!

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Zeckk
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Nearly every planeswalker after JTMS.

Time Reversal was a pretty fun one.

Literally every single mono-black mythic or rare creature in the last 3 years. Seriously, the design team for black is categorically retarded when it comes to evaluating mana-intensity vs. playability vs. power level. It took nearly a year before phyrexian obliterator found a home, and it's still less than stellar.

 
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I remember people freaking out about Thoughts of Ruin, thinking they had just effectively printed a red Armageddon. By me, people were buying them at $10 apiece.
 
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Drinker of Sorrow from Legions presold for 25 a playset because it was potentially a new Negator. Card didn't do anything.

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quote:
Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
Drinker of Sorrow from Legions presold for 25 a playset because it was potentially a new Negator. Card didn't do anything.


It rocked the casual table. At least for me. Sack one of those symbiotic creatures and then I have tons of dudes to sack!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Literally every single mono-black mythic or rare creature in the last 3 years. Seriously, the design team for black is categorically retarded when it comes to evaluating mana-intensity vs. playability vs. power level. It took nearly a year before phyrexian obliterator found a home, and it's still less than stellar.

Grave Titan, Phyrexian Obliterator, Geralf's Messenger, Gravecrawler (just to name a few). As for Obliterator, do you remember a card that came out in the same set that gave a creature -5/-5 at instant speed for some combination of 1 and B or 2 life and how it was played a lot? Yeah, me neither.

Obliterator isn't less then stellar because of it's power lever. It's less than stellar because of cards like Celestial Purge, Dismember, Go for the Throat, Oblivion Ring, and Tragic Slip if Morbid is triggered.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on March 31, 2012]

 
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Shadowmage Infiltrator
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Ruboonia:
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Circu used to be hugely hyped.

 
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Grafdiggers Cage is a recent one that comes to mind. Its not as overhyped as some of the other cards but its not as good as people initially thought.
 
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Abyssal Persecutor
I remember opening one at the pre-release and sold it to someone at the event for 30$ and he thought I was a chump...
Wonder how that worked out for him.
 
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Time Reversal is the one that immediately comes to mind. Chandra 3.0 also.
 
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Rishadan Port's were selling for $35 a piece when MM first came out. I remember Deranged Hermit's going for $20 as well. Two-Headed Dragon and Weatherseed Treefolk were way over hyped too.

And of course, the legendary Cursed Scroll. Good golly that was expensive.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Greven53 on March 31, 2012]

 
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Balduvian Horde
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Greven53:
And of course, the legendary Cursed Scroll. Good golly that was expensive.

Haha, I still have my set of scrolls!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by southparker2002:
Haha, I still have my set of scrolls!

Kind of silly to say scrolls were a hype card--they were amazing at the time and worth every penny. No hype about it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Greven53:
Rishadan Port's were selling for $35 a piece when MM first came out. I remember Deranged Hermit's going for $20 as well. Two-Headed Dragon and Weatherseed Treefolk were way over hyped too.

And of course, the legendary Cursed Scroll. Good golly that was expensive.


Ugh.. I am not sure what you are saying here. I don't remember if two-headed dragon or weatherseed treefolk saw any play but port/scroll/hermit did.

Port was definitely worth the price it had at the time.

If you're going to talk about standard cards that tanked in priced after rotation, call of the herd is a far better choice. Card was $20. Now $0.20.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
Ugh.. I am not sure what you are saying here. I don't remember if two-headed dragon or weatherseed treefolk saw any play but port/scroll/hermit did.

Port was definitely worth the price it had at the time.

If you're going to talk about standard cards that tanked in priced after rotation, call of the herd is a far better choice. Card was $20. Now $0.20.


Speaking of cards tanking, how about masticore? I think I had to pay 60 bucks for my playset at the time. Percentage wise I think they are about on par with cursed scroll, though I still play them in black decks due to the meta game around here.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by sporedream:
Speaking of cards tanking, how about masticore? I think I had to pay 60 bucks for my playset at the time. Percentage wise I think they are about on par with cursed scroll, though I still play them in black decks due to the meta game around here.


I think masticore should be spared since IIRC, it was good for more than 2 years. Call just tanked off the top.

Also up for nomination. Urza's rage. $20 card to $0.2-0.5.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Nitelite:
Balduvian Horde

Haha. I loved it. I'll trade you 4 force of wills for one.

 
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Phyrexian Scuta anyone?
 
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I guess Urza's Rage and Call of the Herd were actually awesome at the time? And Skizzik?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
Haha. I loved it. I'll trade you 4 force of wills for one.


I used to be able to do this all the time with my friends!

No one wanted their FoW's because they all had counterspell's!

But, Balduvian Horde.... wow, what a house!

EDIT:

Can someone tell me how much Time Reversals were selling for before it tanked? That one just seems to have slipped my mind..

[Edited 1 times, lastly by flophaus on March 31, 2012]

 
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Phyrexian Scuta saw play, along with Urza's Rage and Skizzik for sure.

Breaking Point and Seedtime were both incredibly overhyped before Judgement came out.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
I used to be able to do this all the time with my friends!

No one wanted their FoW's because they all had counterspell's!

But, Balduvian Horde.... wow, what a house!

EDIT:

Can someone tell me how much Time Reversals were selling for before it tanked? That one just seems to have slipped my mind..


I traded my FoW's for Arcane Denials once... it was WAY better than FoW! :P

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
I think masticore should be spared since IIRC, it was good for more than 2 years. Call just tanked off the top.

Also up for nomination. Urza's rage. $20 card to $0.2-0.5.


True. I guess Im more just disappointed to be honest. Agree with Urza's rage though

 

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