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Topic: Hook is Return to Ravnica
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ryan2754
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posted April 10, 2012 04:40 PM
        
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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Since all 10 2-color combos were represented, I would guess 3 color guilds may show up, most likely different from the Alara ones.
See, I don't see them going to 3 color guilds. That was done in Alara, and the Dragon Lords (in Invasion/Planeshift) before them.
I would love to see 5, four color guilds. 4 Color EDH General FTW. However, if they do do 3 color guilds, I could DEFINITELY see them remaking the Planeshift Lair Lands. THose are pretty nifty. __________________
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caquaa
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posted April 10, 2012 04:44 PM
There are some issues w/ trying to do 4 colors tho. As MaRo has mentioned, it becomes less about what the colors do and more about what they can't do from the missing color. Beyond that, 4 color cards are virtually unplayable outside of EDH. As a 4 color guild you couldn't really have 4 color cards, so its a bunch of loosely tied together 2 color cards? I don't see it working.
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WeedIan
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posted April 10, 2012 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by ZachSellsMagic:
Regardless of the "will they or won't they argument," I'm not sure reprinting shocklands will affect the secondary market such that prices drop. Someone previously suggested they'd print these as mythics, which I doubt, but that would inevitably make each of them a $20 card at the low end. Even at rare, you're still going to see Scars land type prices, which have show sustainability at $15 for the mainstays, which isn't that far off from mid-level shocks currently.I'm more interested in Scab-Clan Mauler.
Scar lands were MAX $5 until they stopped being drafted. That's when they spiked like mad. __________________
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Sovarius
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posted April 10, 2012 07:40 PM
The planeshift Lairs were named for Dragons that don't exist in Ravnica's plane. Also i dunno that they would continue the subtype lair anyway.
Those and the shards trilands are all out of flavor, i don't know if we would see a 3rd iteration.If they go 3 color guilds i suspect they'd be enemy colors like the commander decks. 4 color legends would be extremely useful i genuinely hope for a few with a couple interesting abilities just as a nod to EDH formats, but as caquaa said they don't make sense. the Nephilim didn't even all make sense, really... There isn't much in common that any 4 colors share, let alone each of the 5 four-color combos... Unfortunate. It would been a bunch of loosely tied 2-3 color cards anyway, as said. I don't think there's too much wrong with returning to the old guilds. I know nothing of the going-ons in Ravnica though.
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choco man
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posted April 10, 2012 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I don't think there's too much wrong with returning to the old guilds. I know nothing of the going-ons in Ravnica though.
Ravnica was an awesome block. Featuring 4 then 3 then 3 of each of the two-colored combinations separately in each set was a bummer on waiting for those last shock-lands, though. quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Scar lands were MAX $5 until they stopped being drafted. That's when they spiked like mad.
They were also only $5 max because they're mostly unused in any other format.
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ryan2754
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posted April 10, 2012 07:58 PM
I know the lairs were with the names of the dragons. I'm saying do something similar.
As for the Nephilim, Glint-Eye isn't bad.Discard a card for a +1/+1 is Black
Drawing a card for each damage is Blue and Green
Granted, not much in the red department, but they could have given it haste, attack each turn if able, or discard a card at random instead.
There are ways to do 4 Colored Cards.
Either way, yeah. __________________
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Zeckk
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posted April 10, 2012 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by choco man:
They were also only $5 max because they're mostly unused in any other format.
Well they were, until people started figuring out that they were ideal for Affinity, Jund, U/W tron, Caw-Blade, RUG/WUR Delver, and Melira Pod, i.e. 70% of the competitive Modern lists. If a U/R Scar land was in print, I'm sure that would have hit 15-20 as well. The SOM fast-lands ended up being a great mechanic for manafixing, and I hope they revisit the mechanic down the road, possibly with enemy colors.
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dfitzg88
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posted April 11, 2012 12:29 AM
just from the degeneration of ravnica over the course of the block, it's more than likely that three color elements will be introduced, and we'll see tri-lands with a shock element (without basic land types). that's my guess anyway.i just hope the next jace is semi-broken. i love broken jace. he's so much better than useless jace.
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ZachSellsMagic
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posted April 11, 2012 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Scar lands were MAX $5 until they stopped being drafted. That's when they spiked like mad.
The Scars lands spiked when Zendikar rotated out and took the entire Standard manabase with it.
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Sovarius
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posted April 11, 2012 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by ryan2754:
Discard a card for a +1/+1 is Black
Drawing a card for each damage is Blue and Green
Granted, not much in the red department, but they could have given it haste, attack each turn if able, or discard a card at random instead.
There are ways to do 4 Colored Cards.
Either way, yeah.
Glinteye might actually be the best rep for a 4 color creature in the cycle, but still almost entirely missing red and being weak on a 'green' ability. I like Glint and he seems like he'd be intense to build around, and he's in the right colors for drawn and reanimation, but doesn't cut it for me. Even if they are as weak as old Rav nephilim, i hope we can see more 4 color creatures anyway.
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