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Topic: MTG Commander's Arsenal !
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helpmehelpyou Member
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posted August 10, 2012 01:49 PM
I cant picture them foiling 1 of the 10 commanders from the first set and not the others.. so doesnt that make 12 cards spoiled? the 10 commanders + sylvan + toweri would think at least 1 "staple" from each color and that would leave 2 extra slots.. 2 staple srtifacts? SDT and gauntlet of power maybe?
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Dimh Member
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posted August 10, 2012 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: Foil Mimeoplasm confirmed. I will say, if it's a bunch of legends in foil, it'll not be as great. I want staples like Volrath's Stronghold and Scavenging Ooze!
Volrath's Stronghold is on the reserved list, don't think it's coming.
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caquaa Member
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posted August 10, 2012 02:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by helpmehelpyou: I cant picture them foiling 1 of the 10 commanders from the first set and not the others.. so doesnt that make 12 cards spoiled? the 10 commanders + sylvan + toweri would think at least 1 "staple" from each color and that would leave 2 extra slots.. 2 staple srtifacts? SDT and gauntlet of power maybe?
they could just do one of each color combo to leave the others for future products. Makes much more sense to me. 5 foil commander deck commanders + 13 cards.
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FleeceItOut Member
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posted August 10, 2012 02:37 PM
steep msrp, curious to see what's inside
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bstrom213 Banned
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posted August 10, 2012 02:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by stu55: Outrageous claims are outrageousWe have one card...so much more to wait on
These people are not idiots, they will add in something that will make it worth the 75 msrp. There has never been anything that commanded this high of a price tag. I would take 10 right now from you if you can guarantee to sell me these things at msrp before we know anything else about it
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stu55 Member
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posted August 10, 2012 03:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by bstrom213: These people are not idiots, they will add in something that will make it worth the 75 msrp. There has never been anything that commanded this high of a price tag. I would take 10 right now from you if you can guarantee to sell me these things at msrp before we know anything else about it
Speaking of idiots, hey, how have those past few Duel Decks worked out for you?
They have produced products that have been worth less than MSRP...look at most of the Archenemy and recent Commander decks...very few have singles that add up to even close to MSRP
quote: Originally posted by I3Iood: What?
He is saying Mimeoplasm is not a real card
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bstrom213 Banned
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posted August 10, 2012 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by stu55:
Speaking of idiots, hey, how have those past few Duel Decks worked out for you? They have produced products that have been worth less than MSRP...look at most of the Archenemy and recent Commander decks...very few have singles that add up to even close to MSRP
Look yourself in the mirror and ask, what kind of idiot would compare a product like this to a recent dual deck? Or what kind of an idiot wouldn't compare apples to apples by comparing this to the first duel deck? If I need to say anymore for you to understand, then you should just keep that to yourself, because you have embarassed yourself enough arguing with me.
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Zeckk Member
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posted August 10, 2012 04:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by stu55:
Speaking of idiots, hey, how have those past few Duel Decks worked out for you? They have produced products that have been worth less than MSRP...look at most of the Archenemy and recent Commander decks...very few have singles that add up to even close to MSRP
He is saying Mimeoplasm is not a real card
Duel decks are not limited release product. By that metric, limited release products have universally overtaken their MSRP price point since their inception. Even if it's worst case scenario (10 commander pre-con foil legends, garbage foils for the other 6 cards) the demand for those foils will be rather high considering that those generals are quite popular. Personally, I'm much more interested in the 20 non-foil cards. A non-foil vindicate reprint or alt-art force of will would be quite sexy.
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rats60 Member
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posted August 10, 2012 04:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Duel decks are not limited release product. By that metric, limited release products have universally overtaken their MSRP price point since their inception.Even if it's worst case scenario (10 commander pre-con foil legends, garbage foils for the other 6 cards) the demand for those foils will be rather high considering that those generals are quite popular. Personally, I'm much more interested in the 20 non-foil cards. A non-foil vindicate reprint or alt-art force of will would be quite sexy.
What 20 nonfoil cards?
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caquaa Member
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posted August 10, 2012 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by rats60: What 20 nonfoil cards?
yah... Here's what you're looking at: 18 premium foil cards 10 oversized premium foil cards 120 UltraPRO foil card sleeves 20 double-sided Battle Marks (+ and –) A life counter that goes up to 99
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choco man Member
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posted August 10, 2012 04:29 PM
Do ppl see any ppl using oversized cards on a regular basis?
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junichi Moderator
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posted August 10, 2012 04:42 PM
In general, I am just happy WoTC is doing this. I am hoping enough people whine and complain about this, so I could get my hands on one without much of a fight.__________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionLife is hard; it's harder if you're stupid. John Wayne
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iccarus Member
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posted August 10, 2012 05:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Do ppl see any ppl using oversized cards on a regular basis?
No. Most people I talk to and most comments I see online show they are universally disliked by players. They stink in commander especially since you can't shuffle them into the library in the event of a tuck effect. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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thulnanth Member
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posted August 10, 2012 07:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by junichi: In general, I am just happy WoTC is doing this. I am hoping enough people whine and complain about this, so I could get my hands on one without much of a fight.
My thoughts exactly
Take it easy, Jared
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 10, 2012 09:05 PM
So much negativity! Its awesome that these cards are printed __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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iccarus Member
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posted August 10, 2012 09:27 PM
So, what would people like to see in here that would convince them it's worth dropping $75? What staples of the format would make this worth picking up?Bribery? Tooth and Nail? Sol Ring and SDT again? __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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helpmehelpyou Member
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posted August 10, 2012 11:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by iccarus: No. Most people I talk to and most comments I see online show they are universally disliked by players. They stink in commander especially since you can't shuffle them into the library in the event of a tuck effect.
not to mention equipment and auras.. what do you do.. place the dinky card under the huge card to show its attached (ewww) or place the dinky cards ontop the oversized cards (silly looking)
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Hermann -ICE- Member
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posted August 11, 2012 12:14 AM
Dear Wizards,There seems to be a person in your midst that has a weird fetish for pushing over-sized cards. Please fire that person. That is all.
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stu55 Member
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posted August 11, 2012 06:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by bstrom213: Look yourself in the mirror and ask, what kind of idiot would compare a product like this to a recent dual deck? Or what kind of an idiot wouldn't compare apples to apples by comparing this to the first duel deck? If I need to say anymore for you to understand, then you should just keep that to yourself, because you have embarassed yourself enough arguing with me.
You clearly don't know me well enough then. I was talking about your statement where they put enough cards to make things worth, and yes these duel decks are fairly limited run because they are only available for a few months. This set may or may not hit $75, but to say that WoTC will make it worth that is laughable. Plenty of times they have produced things that are not worth MSRP. I hope they do, really, but your assumptions are making an, well, whatever assumptions make ppl, out of you...
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choco man Member
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posted August 11, 2012 09:34 AM
A booster box isn't even worth MSRP. Just sayin'
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revenger Member
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posted August 11, 2012 11:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: A booster box isn't even worth MSRP. Just sayin'
and this won't either. Wotc employees need to squeeze every dime out of their products in order to pay for their boats, cars, mistresses, houses and whateverelse they want. . On the + side, singles of this will be a little easier to get: maybe. __________________ Motl member since November 1, 2000Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! 33rd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party services. Email me if interested.
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 11, 2012 01:30 PM
I'm glad everyone is hating this because I like it and will be able to get one or two __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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caquaa Member
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posted August 11, 2012 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: I'm glad everyone is hating this because I like it and will be able to get one or two
Yes, I certainly HATE the 3 cards revealed.... lol. Theres 15 more to go, seriously people need to just wait for more info. If sylvan library is any indication of what is to follow, we'll do okay with this. If Sylvan library is the best it has to offer, we're SOL. just have to wait....
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revenger Member
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posted August 11, 2012 02:58 PM
Is there gonna be any NEW cards(commanders/lands for edh decks...etc) or is it all reprints?__________________ Motl member since November 1, 2000Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! 33rd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party services. Email me if interested.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted August 11, 2012 03:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: Yes, I certainly HATE the 3 cards revealed.... lol. Theres 15 more to go, seriously people need to just wait for more info. If sylvan library is any indication of what is to follow, we'll do okay with this. If Sylvan library is the best it has to offer, we're SOL. just have to wait....
I hope Sylvan Library isn't the best, it will be super expensive unless retailers drop the price of the product well below 75... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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