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helpmehelpyou
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I cant picture them foiling 1 of the 10 commanders from the first set and not the others.. so doesnt that make 12 cards spoiled?
the 10 commanders + sylvan + tower

i would think at least 1 "staple" from each color
and that would leave 2 extra slots.. 2 staple srtifacts?
SDT and gauntlet of power maybe?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Foil Mimeoplasm confirmed. I will say, if it's a bunch of legends in foil, it'll not be as great. I want staples like Volrath's Stronghold and Scavenging Ooze!

Volrath's Stronghold is on the reserved list, don't think it's coming.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by helpmehelpyou:
I cant picture them foiling 1 of the 10 commanders from the first set and not the others.. so doesnt that make 12 cards spoiled?
the 10 commanders + sylvan + tower

i would think at least 1 "staple" from each color
and that would leave 2 extra slots.. 2 staple srtifacts?
SDT and gauntlet of power maybe?


they could just do one of each color combo to leave the others for future products. Makes much more sense to me. 5 foil commander deck commanders + 13 cards.

 
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steep msrp, curious to see what's inside
 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Outrageous claims are outrageous

We have one card...so much more to wait on


These people are not idiots, they will add in something that will make it worth the 75 msrp. There has never been anything that commanded this high of a price tag. I would take 10 right now from you if you can guarantee to sell me these things at msrp before we know anything else about it

[Edited 1 times, lastly by bstrom213 on August 10, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
These people are not idiots, they will add in something that will make it worth the 75 msrp. There has never been anything that commanded this high of a price tag. I would take 10 right now from you if you can guarantee to sell me these things at msrp before we know anything else about it


Speaking of idiots, hey, how have those past few Duel Decks worked out for you?


They have produced products that have been worth less than MSRP...look at most of the Archenemy and recent Commander decks...very few have singles that add up to even close to MSRP


quote:
Originally posted by I3Iood:
What?


He is saying Mimeoplasm is not a real card

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stu55 on August 10, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:

Speaking of idiots, hey, how have those past few Duel Decks worked out for you?


They have produced products that have been worth less than MSRP...look at most of the Archenemy and recent Commander decks...very few have singles that add up to even close to MSRP


Look yourself in the mirror and ask, what kind of idiot would compare a product like this to a recent dual deck? Or what kind of an idiot wouldn't compare apples to apples by comparing this to the first duel deck?

If I need to say anymore for you to understand, then you should just keep that to yourself, because you have embarassed yourself enough arguing with me.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:

Speaking of idiots, hey, how have those past few Duel Decks worked out for you?


They have produced products that have been worth less than MSRP...look at most of the Archenemy and recent Commander decks...very few have singles that add up to even close to MSRP

He is saying Mimeoplasm is not a real card


Duel decks are not limited release product. By that metric, limited release products have universally overtaken their MSRP price point since their inception.

Even if it's worst case scenario (10 commander pre-con foil legends, garbage foils for the other 6 cards) the demand for those foils will be rather high considering that those generals are quite popular. Personally, I'm much more interested in the 20 non-foil cards. A non-foil vindicate reprint or alt-art force of will would be quite sexy.

 
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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Duel decks are not limited release product. By that metric, limited release products have universally overtaken their MSRP price point since their inception.

Even if it's worst case scenario (10 commander pre-con foil legends, garbage foils for the other 6 cards) the demand for those foils will be rather high considering that those generals are quite popular. Personally, I'm much more interested in the 20 non-foil cards. A non-foil vindicate reprint or alt-art force of will would be quite sexy.


What 20 nonfoil cards?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
What 20 nonfoil cards?

yah...

Here's what you're looking at:

18 premium foil cards
10 oversized premium foil cards
120 UltraPRO foil card sleeves
20 double-sided Battle Marks (+ and –)
A life counter that goes up to 99

 
choco man
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Do ppl see any ppl using oversized cards on a regular basis?
 
junichi
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In general, I am just happy WoTC is doing this. I am hoping enough people whine and complain about this, so I could get my hands on one without much of a fight.

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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Do ppl see any ppl using oversized cards on a regular basis?

No. Most people I talk to and most comments I see online show they are universally disliked by players. They stink in commander especially since you can't shuffle them into the library in the event of a tuck effect.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
In general, I am just happy WoTC is doing this. I am hoping enough people whine and complain about this, so I could get my hands on one without much of a fight.



My thoughts exactly

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So much negativity! Its awesome that these cards are printed

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So, what would people like to see in here that would convince them it's worth dropping $75? What staples of the format would make this worth picking up?

Bribery? Tooth and Nail? Sol Ring and SDT again?

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
No. Most people I talk to and most comments I see online show they are universally disliked by players. They stink in commander especially since you can't shuffle them into the library in the event of a tuck effect.


not to mention equipment and auras.. what do you do.. place the dinky card under the huge card to show its attached (ewww) or place the dinky cards ontop the oversized cards (silly looking)

[Edited 1 times, lastly by helpmehelpyou on August 10, 2012]

 
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Dear Wizards,

There seems to be a person in your midst that has a weird fetish for pushing over-sized cards. Please fire that person.

That is all.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
Look yourself in the mirror and ask, what kind of idiot would compare a product like this to a recent dual deck? Or what kind of an idiot wouldn't compare apples to apples by comparing this to the first duel deck?

If I need to say anymore for you to understand, then you should just keep that to yourself, because you have embarassed yourself enough arguing with me.


You clearly don't know me well enough then.

I was talking about your statement where they put enough cards to make things worth, and yes these duel decks are fairly limited run because they are only available for a few months.

This set may or may not hit $75, but to say that WoTC will make it worth that is laughable. Plenty of times they have produced things that are not worth MSRP. I hope they do, really, but your assumptions are making an, well, whatever assumptions make ppl, out of you...

 
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A booster box isn't even worth MSRP. Just sayin'
 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
A booster box isn't even worth MSRP. Just sayin'

and this won't either. Wotc employees need to squeeze every dime out of their products in order to pay for their boats, cars, mistresses, houses and whateverelse they want. . On the + side, singles of this will be a little easier to get: maybe.

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I'm glad everyone is hating this because I like it and will be able to get one or two

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
I'm glad everyone is hating this because I like it and will be able to get one or two


Yes, I certainly HATE the 3 cards revealed.... lol.
Theres 15 more to go, seriously people need to just wait for more info. If sylvan library is any indication of what is to follow, we'll do okay with this. If Sylvan library is the best it has to offer, we're SOL. just have to wait....

 
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Is there gonna be any NEW cards(commanders/lands for edh decks...etc) or is it all reprints?

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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
Yes, I certainly HATE the 3 cards revealed.... lol.
Theres 15 more to go, seriously people need to just wait for more info. If sylvan library is any indication of what is to follow, we'll do okay with this. If Sylvan library is the best it has to offer, we're SOL. just have to wait....

I hope Sylvan Library isn't the best, it will be super expensive unless retailers drop the price of the product well below 75...

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