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implode
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hahah pretty funny stuff...

lotus, twister and another piece of power 9 in EX+ condition was sold for $600. I just chuckled, seemed like the dealer ripped them off. Though I saw some other CE stuff in binder...so you have to wonder if any of the power was faked.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by implode on August 28, 2012]

 
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The lotus was unlimited and the twister and other was ce. Either way easily worth wayyy more than $600. Do your homework.darrell
 
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Originally posted by Hooskdaddy:
The lotus was unlimited and the twister and other was ce. Either way easily worth wayyy more than $600. Do your homework.darrell

Think someone needs to video the magic portion of the show...would be interested in looking at that in more detail. Darrel getting screwed is always a good episode.

 
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used to watch this show then stopped, but i'll check this episode out
 
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havent these guys ever heard of ebay?Of course the guy from the shop is going to lowball and then sell it for top dollar.I kind of think these guys are to lazy to do there homework. the lotus is around $1000 and the ce p9 still pockets around $100 ea. tssk tssk
 
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with the easy availability of information these days if a fool is willing to allow themself to be ripped off, I say they deserve it
 
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Storage Wars is my absolute favorite show on TV. I'm obsessed, as the wife says

It was definitely interesting to see MTG on the show. I've actually been waiting for them to find cards for a long time.

With that said, something just smells fishy about the way it was done. I've long thought that there was a strong possibility of some items being planted on the show for TV ratings, and now seeing something that I'm obviously familiar with just sort of reaffirms my suspicions. A big box of what was clearly Scars of Mirrodin block crap, a binder of M10/M11 (and other newer) crap, and then randomly a Lotus? I dunno... it's possible I guess, but I'm not really buying it.

Also, it was an Unlimited Lotus, CE Timetwister and CE Mox Pearl. The Lotus clearly had a bent/creased lower left corner too. The price the nerdy dealer offered initially was $600, but Darrell ended up getting $700 after a coin flip in his favor. Honestly, I didn't think he got ripped off that badly as long as the rest of the cards didn't contain any gems. What's the dealer going to do, offer full price and make nothing?

 
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The Lotus looks like it was heavily played. He could have gotten more but really it's not that bad for someone just wanting to flip for fast cash.

Great to see Frank & Son's on the show.

 
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They plant stuff all the time due to budget constraints.

It's so obvious too...

Same thing with Pawn Stars and all those type shows.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
Same thing with Pawn Stars and all those type shows.

eh, dunno bout that. They are in a place where people will sell anything for whatever they can get. beyond that, I believe its something like a months worth of business for an episode or something like that.

 
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I didn't see it on storage wars but I did just see in on an episode of Warehouse 13. It was just for a sec tho but the kids were deff playing magic.
 
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I didn't see Storage Wars episode with Magic in it. I saw another episode of Storage Wars that Jarrod and Brandi found a box of comic book figures still in the original boxes and never been opened up that they took to a comic store and the guy told them that the total of what was there was worth about $12k when they paid less than $1000 for the whole unit.
 
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People looking to see the episode with the Magic cards: it's called 'Sheets and Geeks' and is the 19 episode of season 3.

It was the phoniest acting I've ever seen. "Hey, we found this random Magic lot, are any of the cards worth anything?" "Why yes, good sir, these three P9 cards that happen to be in the same folder as modern era commons (Infantry Veteran, Holy Strength, etc.) are worth a fortune." Is this show some sort of an ad to try to get people to invest in old storage compartments?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
They plant stuff all the time due to budget constraints.

It's so obvious too...

Same thing with Pawn Stars and all those type shows.


Pretty sure they film Pawn Stars in an somewhat honest way...people who are in the area meet with producers on a casting day. They take the most interesting lots and shoot them with an empty/staged set for taping purposes. They have all the experts waiting in the wings (if they are available at all). People are not just into selling items for the pawn/cash value--a lot of people want a couple mins of tv time to me famous.

They also film some of the everyday going ons, but don't film actual customers in the shop for legal reasons.

Source: read a video production blog on this.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by implode:
Pretty sure they film Pawn Stars in an somewhat honest way...people who are in the area meet with producers on a casting day. They take the most interesting lots and shoot them with an empty/staged set for taping purposes. They have all the experts waiting in the wings (if they are available at all). People are not just into selling items for the pawn/cash value--a lot of people want a couple mins of tv time to me famous.

They also film some of the everyday going ons, but don't film actual customers in the shop for legal reasons.

Source: read a video production blog on this.


So you are saying that a pawnbroker would pay 13K for a fake Joe Jackson signature without having anyone look at it? Or they would pay 1K for a reprint of the Who's contract from Woodstock that was in their Live at Leeds album? Or they would pay $50 dollars for a $5 Bob Dylan album and then Chumley would just happen to run in to Bob Dylan to have him sign it? This show is fake as can be. I'm sure that part of it is real, using real people, but the show is definitely staged.

Here's where you can watch the episode

http://www.aetv.com/storage-wars/video/sheets-and-geeks-33993138#33993138

[Edited 1 times, lastly by rats60 on August 29, 2012]

 
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I too thought it was a little strange that there was a black lotus among that pile of junk.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
So you are saying that a pawnbroker would pay 13K for a fake Joe Jackson signature without having anyone look at it? Or they would pay 1K for a reprint of the Who's contract from Woodstock that was in their Live at Leeds album? Or they would pay $50 dollars for a $5 Bob Dylan album and then Chumley would just happen to run in to Bob Dylan to have him sign it? This show is fake as can be. I'm sure that part of it is real, using real people, but the show is definitely staged.

Here's where you can watch the episode

http://www.aetv.com/storage-wars/video/sheets-and-geeks-33993138#33993138


With a shop full of know it alls, I'm sure hubris may play a role. Any pawn shop makes mistakes. NOT knowing any better on the book seems odd. Especially after lecturing others in the shop about accepting fake items. Maybe it wasn't portrayed 100% accurately. Perhaps it was a buy now situation...but was edited differently.

Whole Chum randomly finding Springsteen was fake as hell. Maybe the story was based on truth. Maybe at some point they had an item come in like that, and they were able to get it signed. Think at that point in the season they were really playing up the idiot chum angle of character development.

I think stories fall into several categories...
A recreation of an actual event.
A actual casted event.
A promotional event (hawking sandwiches).
A character development event.
A away from shop event.

 
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The show is ridiculously staged. It may have been more real in the early seasons but at this point its about the personalities and bickering.

For anyone curious, the Magic stuff shows up at the 15:13 mark of that link above. And you can tell its fake.

The "little black box" he finds is full of cards that are all new. You can tell by the white edges instead of the yellowish edge of the old cards. Second, he pulls out a binder of cards and yet, just loose within the binder pages are three cards in toploaders. Riiiight.

 
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I watch this show alot and I was like this show is staged, but maybe its not.

Take these shows:
Auctionhunters==is there ever a show where they don't find a gun??
Storagewars==most realistic of the bunch but how they always find a safe or some motor car/bike....but never a gun...
Storagewars Texas== now I would have pegged this one to put the magic stuff at because it is always furniture or some weird med-evil stuff like swords...

But come on If you find a lotus guess what you will find duals, some form of serra angels, royal assassins, vesuvan doppelgangers, shivan dragon....Because those were the cards you played way back when. Yet there is mirrodin besiged stuff in there.

The guys he shows the stuff doesn't even look that closely at the other cards or take the cards out of the cases as a normal person would...

Brandon says he is going to look up the cards yet they settle on 600-700....

[Edited 1 times, lastly by slurpee on August 29, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by slurpee:
I watch this show alot and I was like this show is staged, but maybe its not.

Take these shows:
Auctionhunters==is there ever a show where they don't find a gun??
Storagewars==most realistic of the bunch but how they always find a safe or some motor car/bike....but never a gun...
Storagewars Texas== now I would have pegged this one to put the magic stuff at because it is always furniture or some weird med-evil stuff like swords...

But come on If you find a lotus guess what you will find duals, some form of serra angels, royal assassins, vesuvan doppelgangers, shivan dragon....Because those were the cards you played way back when. Yet there is mirrodin besiged stuff in there.

The guys he shows the stuff doesn't even look that closely at the other cards or take the cards out of the cases as a normal person would...

Brandon says he is going to look up the cards yet they settle on 600-700....


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storage wars texas, meh

storage wars, got repetitive

auction hunters, fakest of the 3

auction kings, not bad, i actually like this one

 
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LOL i paused it and explained all the cards to my brother. I told him how darrell got screwed
 
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My wife is in Louisiana working on Cajun Pawn starts now... it's almost all staged. All of these shows are. She said that when they don't have anything going on exciting in a day they take someone from the film crew, send them to the storage in the back of the shop, dig something up, then film them coming in and negotiating a price on it.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by southparker2002:
LOL i paused it and explained all the cards to my brother. I told him how darrell got screwed

I'm not sure what you saw, but I think he got a pretty fair deal (again, if you assume it was real).

The Lotus might have had a crease but it definitely wasn't NM. The Pearl and Timetwister were Collector's Edition so maybe $30 and $20 in buylist prices for NM. See the square corners here.

Again, assuming it's not staged, I don't think its worth their time to search out a site like magictraders to maximize value on a one time sale. eBay is more of a gamble because their feedback wouldn't show any previous Magic listings and that might suppress the bidding.

 
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Which episode?
 

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