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nouveaux
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posted October 25, 2012 12:42 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nouveaux Send a private message to nouveaux Click to send nouveaux an Instant MessageVisit nouveaux's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/218c

First time I've been excited by a life counter.

Who's got one reserved?

[Edited 2 times, lastly by nouveaux on October 25, 2012]

MasterWolf
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posted October 25, 2012 03:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MasterWolf Click Here to Email MasterWolf Send a private message to MasterWolf Click to send MasterWolf an Instant MessageVisit MasterWolf's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View MasterWolf's Have/Want ListView MasterWolf's Have/Want List
Who in the world are you?
 
AGO
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They said the oversized commanders were really popular! WTF.... I have never seen anybody use those. There so cumbersome and annoying to transport. I just hate the fact there is such a small printing. I wont be able to obtain one of these or even afford the singles I want when it is released.
 
wayne
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So how much are shops selling them for?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Who in the world are you?

He's new.

 
harbingerofthevoid
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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:
He's new.


har har

 
Thanos
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posted October 25, 2012 06:29 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nouveaux:

Who's got one reserved?

Raises hand

 
D'Shay
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can someone please post what it contains for us people who are blocked at work?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Who in the world are you?

We aren't going to find out a lot about nouveaux for the time being. I don't know specific reasons for this, but the general one seems solid.

I like nouveaux's style so far, I will say that.

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mcelraca
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posted October 25, 2012 07:36 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mcelraca Click Here to Email mcelraca Send a private message to mcelraca Click to send mcelraca an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mcelraca's Have/Want ListView mcelraca's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by D'Shay:
can someone please post what it contains for us people who are blocked at work?


Legendary Creatures:
Kaalia of the Vast
The Mimeoplasm
Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Maelstrom Wanderer
Vela the Night-Clad
Diaochan, Artful Beauty

Creatures:
loyal Retainers
Duplicant
dragonlair Spider

Sorceries:
Decree of Pain
Chaos Warp

Instants:
Desertion

Enchantments:
Mirari's Wake
Sylvan Library
Rhystic Study

Artifacts:
Scroll Rack
Mind's Eye

Land:
Command Tower

Oversized Cards:
Sliver Queen
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Mayeal the Anima
Zur the Enchanter
Grimgrin Corpse-Born
Brion Stoutarm
Glissa the Traitor
Godo, Bandit Warlord
Azusa, Lost but Seeking
Karn, Silver Golem


All cards are foil as well.

You also get a life counter that goes up to 99, card sleeves, and a "nifty" insert.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by mcelraca on October 25, 2012]

 
Bugger
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posted October 25, 2012 08:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Bugger Click Here to Email Bugger Send a private message to Bugger Click to send Bugger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
They said the oversized commanders were really popular! WTF.... I have never seen anybody use those. There so cumbersome and annoying to transport. I just hate the fact there is such a small printing. I wont be able to obtain one of these or even afford the singles I want when it is released.

Maybe because, I don't know, they are? I'm sure your anecdotal experience is even halfway equivalent to the comprehensive market research of an actual company. Why didn't they ask AGO whether continuing to print oversized cards was a good idea? Big mistake, wizards.

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superpup
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Didn't catch a price...if FTV sets start at $34.99 MSRP, I assume it will be more than that with having more cards and the extras...perhaps $49.99?
 
psrex
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MSRP is $75, but good luck finding them that cheap.
 
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Has anyone else followed up on the availability?

Last thing I saw said it was EXTREMELY limited like 1-2 per store?

I just checked out ebay and right now it's looking like 200-300$ to pre-order.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mcelraca on October 25, 2012]

 
Pail42
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Who's ready to shuffle a giant commander back into their deck?
 
AGO
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Maybe because, I don't know, they are? I'm sure your anecdotal experience is even halfway equivalent to the comprehensive market research of an actual company. Why didn't they ask AGO whether continuing to print oversized cards was a good idea? Big mistake, wizards.


Nice troll, but really who uses these?

 
mcelraca
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posted October 25, 2012 10:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mcelraca Click Here to Email mcelraca Send a private message to mcelraca Click to send mcelraca an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mcelraca's Have/Want ListView mcelraca's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
Nice troll, but really who uses these?

I don't think a lot of people use them. I used mine a bit when they first came out, but it's just easier to use the small cards.


If you read through the article he mentions the reserved list. Printing the oversized cards gives them a loophole to reprint some cards that otherwise would not ever be reprinted. (Karn and Sliver Queen in this set)


I'm not saying that is the only reason they make the big cards but Its something to think about.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mcelraca on October 25, 2012]

 
pugowar
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I wish they had included a proxy card for your oversized commander. Something like the Double sided card proxies.
 
Bugger
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posted October 25, 2012 10:17 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Bugger Click Here to Email Bugger Send a private message to Bugger Click to send Bugger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
Nice troll, but really who uses these?

Are you dense?

Try to keep up:
Wizards of the coast is a business.
Businesses are motivated to turn a profit.
Ergo, wizards is motivated to turn a profit.
Selling things that players want to buy increases profits.
Conversely, selling things players do *not* want to buy does *not* increase profits.
Any action that does not increase profits necessarily implies a loss in potential profits, as it diverts resources from actions that *do* generate profits.
Ergo, wizards sells things that players want, and if they repeatedly offer a product, it therefore correlates that said product is desired among the player base.
You don't know of anyone who plays with oversized cards, or likes them.

Now here's the million dollar question: is your own personal tightly limited experience so incredibly important that it makes more sense to invalidate everything outlined above? Do you somehow know wizards' entire customer base better than they do, despite you having no incentive to do so and no method of data collection other than passive, incidental observation?

Or maybe (god forbid!), you're wrong about something? And not even something that's a big deal, either, like Iran or the national economy or life-altering surgery. Just about why a card company would choose to offer an ancillary product. Your insecurity is mind-boggling.

 
gaeacradle
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Wizards has done market research and found out that yes, oversized foils are popular to a lot of casual players. They even said that they wouldn't make them if they weren't popular.

AGO, you have t to realize that MOTL's population is a very small and niche segment of the Magic playing population. So while we don't like the oversized foils, there are certainly many other people who do.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mcelraca:

Printing the oversized cards gives them a loophole to reprint some cards that otherwise would not ever be reprinted. (Karn and Sliver Queen in this set)


This kinda bothers me, because I wish they'd just plain say how flawed that reserved list really is.

karn and Sliver Queen is fine because nobody really cares... but snow covered duals. Nop, out of the question. I believe we'll eventually see these or a similar item, but that's for a whole other topic.

neways, just kinda shows how they don't really take the reserved list too seriously.

 
MAB_Rapper
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quote:
Originally posted by mcelraca:
Last thing I saw said it was EXTREMELY limited like 1-2 per store?

It is either 3 or 5 per store, depending on their level.

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nouveaux
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posted October 25, 2012 11:27 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for nouveaux Send a private message to nouveaux Click to send nouveaux an Instant MessageVisit nouveaux's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mcelraca:
Has anyone else followed up on the availability?

Last thing I saw said it was EXTREMELY limited like 1-2 per store?

I just checked out ebay and right now it's looking like 200-300$ to pre-order.


It is very limited. The larger stores get 5.

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posted October 25, 2012 02:19 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I have one of these reserved, and its ONLY because i need the foil sylvan library for my foily lands.dec :/
 
AGO
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Wow some people are just so passionate about debating menial things. This will be a great product if you can get your hands on it.
 

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