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Topic: Banned/Restricted Update.
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WeedIan
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posted January 27, 2013 09:11 PM
         
Banned in Modern : Seething Song, BBENo other paper formats changed. Wizards continues to make Modern more fun /sarcasm __________________
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daner
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posted January 27, 2013 09:15 PM
I'm more mad that Empty the Warrens, Grapeshot, and Invigorate were banned in online pauper. Now 90% of all decks will be monoU......lame.
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Bugger
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posted January 27, 2013 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Banned in Modern : Seething Song, BBENo other paper formats changed. Wizards continues to make Modern more fun /sarcasm
Yes, because it was SO much fun having modern be a repeat of ZEN/ALA standard 
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WeedIan
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posted January 27, 2013 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Bugger:
Yes, because it was SO much fun having modern be a repeat of ZEN/ALA standard
They'll just keep banning the cards people want to play. The only format that's currently fun to play is None of them. __________________
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Bugger
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posted January 27, 2013 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
They'll just keep banning the cards people want to play.The only format that's currently fun to play is None of them.
Right, ****ing over people who want to netdeck without using their brains is a bad thing. Got it.
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marlo213
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posted January 27, 2013 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Banned in Modern : Seething Song, BBENo other paper formats changed. Wizards continues to make Modern more fun /sarcasm
Did not see this coming...definitely thought they were gonna unban something
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Mr.C
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posted January 27, 2013 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Bugger:
Right, ****ing over people who want to netdeck without using their brains is a bad thing. Got it.
There will be new netdecks soon.
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WeedIan
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posted January 27, 2013 09:34 PM
I want to attack with creatures!Watch Jund replace BBE with Huntmaster. Is there no JUNDSTICE!? __________________
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revenger
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posted January 27, 2013 09:55 PM
Pardon my ignorance but what is BBE?__________________
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WeedIan
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posted January 27, 2013 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by revenger:
Pardon my ignorance but what is BBE?
Bloodbraid Elf, most busted creature since Wild Nacatl. __________________
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skizzikmonger
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posted January 27, 2013 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by revenger:
Pardon my ignorance but what is BBE?
Bloodbraid Elf Conversation at Wizards:
"How do we get more people to play Modern?"
"Unban some cards?"
"Nope. We ban more cards, and kill 2 decks."
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daner
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posted January 27, 2013 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Bloodbraid ElfConversation at Wizards:
"How do we get more people to play Modern?"
"Unban some cards?"
"Nope. We ban more cards, and kill 2 decks."
Jund replaces BBE with Huntmaster/Lotus Cobra/Hellkite/Aristocrat and the world keeps on turning. EDIT: Jund is far too resiliant. When it wins another GP or PT WITHOUT the services of BBE Wizards might finally realize that things need to get "unbanned" to combat the problem.
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ardeay
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posted January 27, 2013 10:11 PM
So that means all the hype about jace being unbanned.... ?
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baldr7
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posted January 27, 2013 10:32 PM
I actually sans BBE, Doran>Jund. What did you really need red for anyway?
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MagixDK
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posted January 27, 2013 10:46 PM
the argument that killing two decks (or forcing them to transform or slow down) is bad for the format, makes little sense.now a bunch of other decks are viable, as someone mentioned, perhaps doran.
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KIP_NZ
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posted January 27, 2013 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by ardeay:
So that means all the hype about jace being unbanned.... ?
I've been saying for the last couple days there's zero chance Jace would be unbanned now, we're in the middle of PTQ season and to unleash a format warping $100 card onto the format in the middle of the season would be unthinkable. If (BIG if) Jace get's unbanned this year it will be in the May release as then the DCI can reban it in Sept if needed before Pro Tour Friends which is modern  __________________
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Zeckk
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posted January 28, 2013 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by baldr7:
I actually sans BBE, Doran>Jund. What did you really need red for anyway?
Bolt, shaughter games, olivia voldaren, ancient grudge. None of them are absolutely essential, but all are very good role players/utility. Also, Raging Ravine is a very good manland. So is stirring wildwood though. And Huntmaster IS definitely playable in modern, especially in a liliana deck that encourages empty hands by turn 5.
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Vegas10
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posted January 28, 2013 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
They'll just keep banning the cards people want to play.The only format that's currently fun to play is None of them.
Then why are you commenting since you no longer play if all formats suck (which is your opinion).
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Vegas10
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posted January 28, 2013 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by ardeay:
So that means all the hype about jace being unbanned.... ?
Was and always will be dumb, they want to expand what can be played, not warp the format with less viable decks due to the oppresive power of JTMS.
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hilikuS
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posted January 28, 2013 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by MagixDK:
now a bunch of other decks are viable, as someone mentioned, perhaps doran.
This part seems awesome.
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caquaa
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posted January 28, 2013 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by Bugger:
Right, ****ing over people who want to netdeck without using their brains is a bad thing. Got it.
eh, you can't be serious, right? I mean what you're saying is that after someone pilots a deck and proves it performs well, someone shouldn't play it and they should make their own deck instead ignoring proven results? You seem to miss the important fundamental part of tournament play: winning.
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Volcanon
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posted January 28, 2013 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by daner:
I'm more mad that Empty the Warrens, Grapeshot, and Invigorate were banned in online pauper. Now 90% of all decks will be monoU......lame.
More like all those decks that can't deal with storm? Now they are playable.
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hilikuS
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posted January 28, 2013 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
eh, you can't be serious, right? I mean what you're saying is that after someone pilots a deck and proves it performs well, someone shouldn't play it and they should make their own deck instead ignoring proven results? You seem to miss the important fundamental part of tournament play: winning.
Well somebody's gotta explore the format at some point. Not everybody is satisfied with just winning with a deck, I'm sure there's a good amount of players who want to Johnny it up and do it with their own brew. Nothin' wrong with playing Jund, but playing the net deck doesn't suit everybody.
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marlo213
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posted January 28, 2013 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Well somebody's gotta explore the format at some point. Not everybody is satisfied with just winning with a deck, I'm sure there's a good amount of players who want to Johnny it up and do it with their own brew.Nothin' wrong with playing Jund, but playing the net deck doesn't suit everybody.
Most people that homebrew have bad decks because they don't have the resources (or probably willingness) to test their brew against enough decks. So if I were going into a tournament with limited experience/meta knowledge, I would definitely netdeck. Plus, most people are horrible deck makers, so it's easier to just copy something that you know can do well and skip the deckmaking process. I did however, see a homebrew that did very well against jund, but it ran seething songs, so the banlist kinda crapped his deck too
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Pail42
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posted January 28, 2013 07:03 AM
Here's the announcement and the reasoning http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/232quote:
While the rest of the format is quite diverse, the dominance of Jund is making it less so overall. The DCI looked to ban a card. We wanted a card that top players consistently played four copies of in Jund, but ideally was less played in other top Modern decks. That would give the best chance of creating a more balanced metagame. The card that best fits our criteria is Bloodbraid Elf.
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Looking at the results of games, turn-three wins are frequent for Storm, contrary to the DCI's stated goals for the format. The DCI looked for a card that was very important to the turn-three wins but not one of the cards that make this deck unique. We decided Seething Song is the best choice. Even with no other mana acceleration, one can cast Seething Song on turn three and it gives a net acceleration of +2 mana. While there are other options for fast mana, none appear as efficient and reliable on turn three as Seething Song.
I'm sad to see seething song go, but not surprised.
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