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Originally posted by Heresy19:
I love that they only boosts YOUR Slivers

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Except doesn't that make them not Slivers? It's like deciding to write a book about vampires, but instead of them being spooky and mysterious, you make them sparkle. If you want something that behaves differently, give it a new fricking name.

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Originally posted by nderdog:
Except doesn't that make them not Slivers? It's like deciding to write a book about vampires, but instead of them being spooky and mysterious, you make them sparkle. If you want something that behaves differently, give it a new fricking name.

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I agree, these new slivers are too different for me to like them.

Yeah, I understand they adapt, and that they can evolve to survive, but these predator/alien/mimic things are NOT the slivers I grew up with and I resent them.

If they wanted to make them humanoid, at least make them keep some of their characteristics, like the talon, or the double tail, or the no eyes, or the beak-like head. =(

1. Digital art sucks for such an iconic tribe (which wre mostly hand-drawn)

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
again, link?

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It's like deciding to write a book about vampires, but instead of them being spooky and mysterious, you make them sparkle.

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Yes, I just spat my coffee out all over my keyboard laughing...

... now I'll be cleaning it for hours, thanks a lot

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He points out that they decided to update the race partly because they felt the whole "these creatures are literally constantly evolving" thing was not reflected well by their consistent default minimalist template of one beak, one claw, two tails. Like, if they're constantly evolving creatures, how the hell have they not somehow stumbled across opposable thumbs yet?!

The other problem with the one beak one claw two tails thing is there's so little art space for it, and that a part of why we haven't seen any slivers since time spiral is that they basically ran out of ways to make slivers look distinct on cards. Diversifying their morphology like this makes it possible to do ****loads of new slivers.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
Doug beyer's tumblr does a good job of addressing art concerns.

He points out that they decided to update the race partly because they felt the whole "these creatures are literally constantly evolving" thing was not reflected well by their consistent default minimalist template of one beak, one claw, two tails. Like, if they're constantly evolving creatures, how the hell have they not somehow stumbled across opposable thumbs yet?!

The other problem with the one beak one claw two tails thing is there's so little art space for it, and that a part of why we haven't seen any slivers since time spiral is that they basically ran out of ways to make slivers look distinct on cards. Diversifying their morphology like this makes it possible to do ****loads of new slivers.

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There are more than a few missing links between the old and new slivers. Where are all the transitional fossils?

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However, my actual problem with slivers are that they just reprint the same effects on new bodies. Slivers have trample, haste, first strike, etc... I like the more creative slivers from the timespiral block that had compound abilities or at least something unique.

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Originally posted by mcelraca:
Just wanted to chime in and say I don't mind the "evolution" of the Sliver. It is cool they are assimilating into life on the plane. Saying that, the simplest lifeforms are usually the most resilient, and I thought slivers were suppose to be along that line. (meaning... They reproduce fast and are deadly, they don't need thumbs.)

However, my actual problem with slivers are that they just reprint the same effects on new bodies. Slivers have trample, haste, first strike, etc... I like the more creative slivers from the timespiral block that had compound abilities or at least something unique.

You may say, "well now the slivers only have an affect on the ones you control." Haste is haste, just reprint Heart Sliver, and make something we don't already have.

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1) the "only you control" change is enough to print new cards (see Master of the Pearl Trident)

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Originally posted by Bugger:
1) the "only you control" change is enough to print new cards (see Master of the Pearl Trident)

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Originally posted by Pail42:
My reaction to the whole sliver thing is the same as it was when they came back in Onslaught, "Ugh". I guess I just don't get why people love slivers so much.

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Agree 100%.

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My reaction to the whole sliver thing is the same as it was when they came back in Onslaught, "Ugh". I guess I just don't get why people love slivers so much.

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While I tend to agree, they remain a popular casual tribe that seems to just resurface every five years or so. At least it's a core set and not a whole block of having to deal with them in limited.

Also, it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to lead off Magic's 20th anniversary year with a bit of nostalgia.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
While I tend to agree, they remain a popular casual tribe that seems to just resurface every five years or so. At least it's a core set and not a whole block of having to deal with them in limited.

Also, it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to lead off Magic's 20th anniversary year with a bit of nostalgia.

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Originally posted by Bugger:

1) the "only you control" change is enough to print new cards (see Master of the Pearl Trident)

2) complex slivers? In a core set?

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1) A friend said the exact same thing to me shortly after I typed that response the first time. However, that doesn't mean i have to like it.

2) You got me on that one, I wasn't really thinking of it like that.

Overall I'm eager to see what they do with the slivers.

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Originally posted by mcelraca:
1) A friend said the exact same thing to me shortly after I typed that response the first time. However, that doesn't mean i have to like it.

2) You got me on that one, I wasn't really thinking of it like that.

Overall I'm eager to see what they do with the slivers.

I like the idea of a tribe that spans the colors. Slivers also have an interesting theme that fits the five color tribe idea.

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Probably the new slivers will be various types of pumps and various types of "slivers get some evergreen ability". There will be some legend that will probably make sliver tokens or tutor slivers. There probably won't be anything like the Time Spiral sliver that gives your slivers the wonky Nebuchnezzar discard ability.

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Originally posted by revenger:
0 packs of m13 bought. Slivers in M14? 0 packs of M14 bought. I aam noticing a pattern.

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