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Bwatson513
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Standard - no changes

Legacy - no changes

Modern -second sunrise banned

Vintage regrowth unrestricted

 
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Oh well if I want to combo legacy it is then :-/. Probably not necessary.
 
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Wooohooo, Gush storm is about to get real good again!
 
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Thank sweet baby jesus for the second sunrise ban. Eggs is just trolling IRL, and while it's important to have combo options in modern, there's already plenty of combo options in modern.
 
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So glad. This deck caused some rounds in gp San Diego to go 40 minutes over time. It was ridiculous
 
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Short term sunrise needed to go, but extra turns is probably not the ideal way to deal with the clock. If combo decks can take twenty minute turns, then the system is broken. I'd prefer if wizards took the time to look for a new way of ending a round so cards don't pop up in the future and do this again
 
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I might play Modern again now that Storm and Eggs are gone
 
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ERR MER GERD! They tossed Vintage a bone for once.
 
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So I won an eBay auction for four Regrowth at 18.50 shipped. Then I realized I was half awake when I bought it and that Regrowth was unrestricted in Vintage, not Legacy. Side note, why would it be unrestricted in Legacy when there's no restricted list for Legacy? So, anyway, they are played UNL versions. I think I did ok, though because I can trade three of them off at six to "make my money back" if I don't keep them. Or, if they explode for some reason, I guess I just made a killing.

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Commander Bans:

Staff of Domination is UNBANNED

Trade Secrets is BANNED

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Demilio:
Commander Bans:

Staff of Domination is UNBANNED

Trade Secrets is BANNED

Wooo-hooo, I missed my staff. Overreaction when they re-banned Rofellos, IMHO.

Trade Secrets seems a little out of left field, but I pretty much had an "oh yeah" moment when I saw it there.

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The much funner Commander format.

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Vanishing is banned
Humility is banned
Protean Hulk is unbanned
Bitterblossom is unbanned
Staff of Domination is unbanned

Sweet, I can play with my DCI Bitterblossoms again. w00t.

Because I didn't remember, Vanishing is from Visions. It's on there because Zur abused it, because phasing doesn't make auras fall off.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
ERR MER GERD! They tossed Vintage a bone for once.

I always try to respect the dead whenever possible.

 
Revane
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I'm going to say that the unbanning of the staff, while great is a not so good idea. I say this because there are a lot of people (including myself) That run elf EDH's with Elvish Archdruid. So that just helps get your infinite out even quicker. While I agree that this is a good card it's going to (for some people) speed up the format that much more, and that's not what it's supposed to be about. I know I always have to option of not running the staff in my deck, but I would be almost a sin not to.

Long story short Staff of Domination is a solid card, but for those who abuse it, its going to make there nuclear reactor go critical mass, and nuke the board possibly turn 4 or 5.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
So I won an eBay auction for four Regrowth at 18.50 shipped. Then I realized I was half awake when I bought it and that Regrowth was unrestricted in Vintage, not Legacy. Side note, why would it be unrestricted in Legacy when there's no restricted list for Legacy? So, anyway, they are played UNL versions. I think I did ok, though because I can trade three of them off at six to "make my money back" if I don't keep them. Or, if they explode for some reason, I guess I just made a killing.

Legacy and Vintage are different because of the mana available to you.

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In Vintage, you get to Regrowth Time Walk, Ancestral Recall, etc. Compare that to what's in Legacy.

 
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Originally posted by Revane:
I'm going to say that the unbanning of the staff, while great is a not so good idea. I say this because there are a lot of people (including myself) That run elf EDH's with Elvish Archdruid. So that just helps get your infinite out even quicker. While I agree that this is a good card it's going to (for some people) speed up the format that much more, and that's not what it's supposed to be about. I know I always have to option of not running the staff in my deck, but I would be almost a sin not to.

Long story short Staff of Domination is a solid card, but for those who abuse it, its going to make there nuclear reactor go critical mass, and nuke the board possibly turn 4 or 5.

If your opponent can't interact with mana dorks by turn 4, they need to work on their deck, plain and simple.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Demilio:
Commander Bans:

Staff of Domination is UNBANNED

Trade Secrets is BANNED

Where was that confirmed?

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Where was that confirmed?

the official EDH site

 
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hah, **** you combo
 
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Originally posted by choco man:
the official EDH site

Link with confirmation? as I cant find it.

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
So I won an eBay auction for four Regrowth at 18.50 shipped. Then I realized I was half awake when I bought it and that Regrowth was unrestricted in Vintage, not Legacy. Side note, why would it be unrestricted in Legacy when there's no restricted list for Legacy? So, anyway, they are played UNL versions. I think I did ok, though because I can trade three of them off at six to "make my money back" if I don't keep them. Or, if they explode for some reason, I guess I just made a killing.

I don't think Regrowth is poised to "explode" in value. The card was printed in four sets, so the supply should be fairly strong. Any bump will be marginal because, really, who plays vintage anymore?

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Originally posted by revenger:
Link with confirmation? as I cant find it.

I'm not seeing that either.

Edit.
It was in their forums.
http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15735

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stinkinogre on April 22, 2013]

 
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Short term sunrise needed to go, but extra turns is probably not the ideal way to deal with the clock. If combo decks can take twenty minute turns, then the system is broken. I'd prefer if wizards took the time to look for a new way of ending a round so cards don't pop up in the future and do this again

They have been Runnig tourneys this way for most of magic's existence and this is the first card they banned for time restraints and you want a revamp of the whole system, really? Toruney system works pretty good as is (at least the time and extra turn part) if one card in 20 years has caused this issue, I think it's safe to say we won't have alot of these in the future, banning the card is the right long and short term solution.

 
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eh it's still kinda aggravating. While nobody likes playing against eggs, modern is almost a 'turn sideways' format. Combo constantly gets the short end in modern. Just kinda sad.
 
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Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
eh it's still kinda aggravating. While nobody likes playing against eggs, modern is almost a 'turn sideways' format. Combo constantly gets the short end in modern. Just kinda sad.

Over the last few years Magic is at an all time high for popularity and standard tournies have the biggest tournouts they have ever had, and there are no real viable combo decks, WOTC wants modern to be popular and alot of people hate playing against combo decks where they watch their opponent for 10 mins do a bunch of stuff then lose, they would rather lose to a cheated out fattie like emrakul, because it is done quickly and there is interaction. so better get use to it, if you want degenerate combo decks become a legacy player, or if you can find it Vintage, and EDH as well.

 

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