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Originally posted by kourk:
u think it's needed to get banned

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Originally posted by kourk:
hey guys,as topic says,now that legend rule changed will affect gaea's crandle? u think it's needed to get banned or it will be no diferrence at all?

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
You could do this before too, at least before Kamigawa. It was well known that you could use a second cradle before it dies, and keep the first one.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Nope

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From MTG's website announcing the change in Kamigawa:

"The "legend rule," created back in Magic's earliest days as support for a new creature type—Legend, has long been on the minds of R&D. The rule makes a lot of sense from a flavor standpoint—should you try to summon a Legend that is already on the battlefield, your spell will fail—but flavor no longer drives the bus as far as rules go. "

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Originally posted by Devonin:
From MTG's website announcing the change in Kamigawa:

"The "legend rule," created back in Magic's earliest days as support for a new creature type—Legend, has long been on the minds of R&D. The rule makes a lot of sense from a flavor standpoint—should you try to summon a Legend that is already on the battlefield, your spell will fail—but flavor no longer drives the bus as far as rules go. "

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
You could still cast the spells. And yoi could tap the second cradle before it was sent to the yard. Go look up old pro tours. This was a favorite play of some pros.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
You could still cast the spells. And yoi could tap the second cradle before it was sent to the yard. Go look up old pro tours. This was a favorite play of some pros.

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Why don't you actually provide the evidence to back up your claim?

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http://www.gatheringmagic.com/nassimketita-rules-editorial-05282013-legend-wait-for-it-ary/

" the original legend rules looked like. If a legendary creature (there weren’t any other legendary permanents yet) was on the battlefield, no other player could cast that card."

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/8016-Blog-Fanatic-The-Legends-Rule-Revisited-plus-Fun-with-Banning-and-Restricting.html

"The old legends rule needed to change. It made it impossible to push high-powered legendary cards, because games came down to a race to see who could play theirs first. Witness the days of Tolarian Academy - players had to run janky cards like Lingering Mirage in Urza's Block Constructed because there were few other ways for blue to deal with an opposing Tolarian Academy."

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K.19 - Legendary Permanents
K.19.Ruling.8 - Due to Rule K.19.2, a Legendary Land with a mana source ability can have its ability used before it is buried. Also, a mana source ability (but not an instant or sorcery ability) of another permanent could sacrifice a legendary permanent before it is buried. [D'Angelo 11/24/98]

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K.17 - Legendary Permanents
K.17.Ruling.1 - Because they are put into the graveyard as a state-based effect, it is not possible to use any abilities of the permanent before it is gone. This includes mana abilities. [D'Angelo 1999/05/01]

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Originally posted by Absurd90:
Now that legendary lands dont strip mine each other isnt this a perfect setup for legendary dual lands?

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Originally posted by Absurd90:
Now that legendary lands dont strip mine each other isnt this a perfect setup for legendary dual lands?

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Originally posted by choco man:
I hope they can be more imaginative than that.

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Originally posted by choco man:
I hope they can be more imaginative than that.

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In standard, it would be strictly better than basic land since there's essentially nothing in the format that punishes a greedy manabase. It's also a much more blatant case of "lazy design" that was bashed in the BOP thread.

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Originally posted by choco man:
A dual land that is a dual land other than a legendary subtype doesn't seem very good to me.

In standard, it would be strictly better than basic land since there's essentially nothing in the format that punishes a greedy manabase. It's also a much more blatant case of "lazy design" that was bashed in the BOP thread.

You're making a point that it is hard to imagine new drawbacks for dual mana lands and have them still be competitive, correct? That's true, M10 lands weren't too long ago and they've already been around for 4 years.

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