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jbark
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Yea less than half spoiled and we have some pretty darn good reprints.

Will conspiracies be legal in commander?

[Edited 2 times, lastly by jbark on May 20, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Yea less than half spoiled and we have some pretty darn good reprints.

Will conspiracies be legal in commander?

Yes, pending any changes by the EDH team that decides bans.

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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Will conspiracies be legal in commander?

Most likely legal in the same way that Planechase planes and Archenemy schemes are legal. If your group agrees to them in advance, then there's probably no reason to exclude them.

The one exception might be Worldknit. It seems a little overpowered outside of a limited environment. The other ones spoiled so far seem a little "meh" in a singleton format.

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Just how Mirri is overpowered in Vanguard cube.

Most of the draft ability cards are pretty intense for cube, the only one I might put in mine is Lore Seeker. It can be played in affinity or other aggro and adding a booster pack to the draft that you get to first pick is nice to spice things up.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Yea less than half spoiled and we have some pretty darn good reprints.

Will conspiracies be legal in commander?

No not likely other then if your play group lets them. They are pretty OP since there are no limits to how many you can play. They were designed for limited pools not constructed.

Cube is where I think you will start seeing these.

 
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I don't doubt that the set will make draft interesting, but I'm not a huge fan of the conspiracies, and I have to say that the set feels awfully gimmicky as a whole.

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quote:
Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
I don't doubt that the set will make draft interesting, but I'm not a huge fan of the conspiracies, and I have to say that the set feels awfully gimmicky as a whole.

I agree. I would also be fairly unhappy if I was a new player and open a conspiracy as a rare and was told that I can't actually play it in ANY format

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
I agree. I would also be fairly unhappy if I was a new player and open a conspiracy as a rare and was told that I can't actually play it in ANY format

You will not get a "conspiricy" card as your rare or common or uncommon.

The conspiricies are part of the "draft-ability" cards
They are 1 per pack and replace the basic land

scroll about 2/3 of the way down to the "lets draft" section
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/300b

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Krieg:
You will not get a "conspiricy" card as your rare or common or uncommon.

The conspiricies are part of the "draft-ability" cards
They are 1 per pack and replace the basic land

scroll about 2/3 of the way down to the "lets draft" section
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/300b

Oh good. I am see they thought this through. Thanks for the info

 
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Can't find the ruling thread so I'll ask here:

Are conspiracy type cards legal in Modern, and if so, how do they work?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Can't find the ruling thread so I'll ask here:

Are conspiracy type cards legal in Modern, and if so, how do they work?

The 13 Conspiracy cards are banned in all formats except Conspiracy, essentially.

Edit: unsanctioned or casual formats can modify as they see fit, naturally. But you won't ever see them at a Modern FNM fo example.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on May 26, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Can't find the ruling thread so I'll ask here:

Are conspiracy type cards legal in Modern, and if so, how do they work?

Only standard legal regular sets are legal for modern anyways.

 
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Only modern leg a reprints in this set are legal in modern. The rest is legal in legacy and vintage minus the 13 conspiracies. At least that's what I've heard.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Can't find the ruling thread so I'll ask here:

Are conspiracy type cards legal in Modern, and if so, how do they work?

as above, none of these cards will be modern legal, unless they are already modern legal.

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They are banned in Vintage anyways so that means banned in everything

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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Only standard legal regular sets are legal for modern anyways.

That's not correct. Did you mean to say something else and it didn't come out right?

Standard- current core set (this will be M15 next), current block, previous core set, previous block

Modern- 8th Edition forward, non rotating.

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
That's not correct. Did you mean to say something else and it didn't come out right?

Standard- current core set (this will be M15 next), current block, previous core set, previous block

Modern- 8th Edition forward, non rotating.

It's pretty obvious that he meant sets that in their time were standard-legal, as opposed to sets such as Conspiracy and Commander that are released occasionally.

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What Nder said.

Sets that come out for T2. As opposed to like Planechase or Commander, which are not legal in Modern.

 
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Will there be foils in this set? I've looked but cannot find it anywhere. Thanks.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll:
Will there be foils in this set? I've looked but cannot find it anywhere. Thanks.

Yes there will.

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^ Like any other non-precon set, why wouldn't there be. Would also be weird if the promo was the only foil.
 
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Not very impressed with the full spoiler.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Not very impressed with the full spoiler.

Why? What were you expecting?

edit: Stifle and Pernicious Deed are quite noteworthy as reprints. Misdirection is nice too, as is Reflecting Pool.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on June 02, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Not very impressed with the full spoiler.

I will admit the C/UC selection has a few stinkers, but it a set designed with limited in mind. The R/M picks are pretty sweet though. There are a number of cards in here I've been dying to get in foil.

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I guess I was expecting more modern staples to get reprinted. As of first glance I see nothing that is modern legal that is played reprinted. Some of the foils will be nice and aside from a few chase legacy/edh cards it didn't impress. Especially the un/Commons.
 

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