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oneofchaos
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posted April 14, 2014 01:45 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by tragicmagic:
Do you think that Mana Confluence will go above $20? I bought a playset on eBay while they were $60 for 4, because I figure they're extremely playable in multiple decks and there's no way they'll go below $15 apiece anytime soon.

It's a rare in a third set that will see play in multiple formats. It's just another COB, but it's a standard legal COB.

 
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Just reread Pharka and sees I had missed the part of "It's owner puts a ..." Is there any reason to run this card in any deck that exists right now?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Just reread Pharka and sees I had missed the part of "It's owner puts a ..." Is there any reason to run this card in any deck that exists right now?

Standard right now seems to be:
Mono-black devotion
Mono-blue devotion (maybe splash white or black)
UW Control
RG Monsters
WR Burn

None of those decks would seem benefit from or be harmed by Pharika. Mono-black devotion decks don't lean as strongly toward Whip of Erebos as they used to.

In a pinch it is an anti-reanimation tool, and it is an enabler for the "constellation" mechanic.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on April 14, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Just reread Pharka and sees I had missed the part of "It's owner puts a ..." Is there any reason to run this card in any deck that exists right now?

Maybe after Scavenging Ooze rotates, but probably not. The BG dredge deck actually runs cards that care about the number of creatures in its yard.

As a GY hate, this card sucks.

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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
It's a rare in a third set that will see play in multiple formats. It's just another COB, but it's a standard legal COB.


It needs to be utilized to be expensive, don't think any of the current decks would use it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

It needs to be utilized to be expensive, don't think any of the current decks would use it.

True, but we won't have shocks soon in standard, and unless they print something in m15, scry lands are the only mana smoothers we will have.

I like it, as I said earlier, to be able to play cards you remove with specter.


Edit - damn dumb phone

[Edited 1 times, lastly by flam flawless on April 15, 2014]

 
oneofchaos
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

It needs to be utilized to be expensive, don't think any of the current decks would use it.

Legacy dredge it replaces tarnished citadel in the 5 color builds.

TEPS it just becomes COB 5-8.

EDH is a must for 3+ colors?

If City wasn't seeing play in modern this shouldn't either unless people are silly.

Standard multicolor aggro will play it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
EDH is a must for 3+ colors?

I can't speak for the other formats, but I have never run CoB in a 3-color build. Much like the pain lands, there's enough fixing out there's no need to run a land that always hurts you when used. Even a lot of 5-color builds don't bother with it.

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Aegis of the Gods

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You have hexproof.

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Dictate of Heliod: "SURRRRRPRISE!!!"
 
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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
I can't speak for the other formats, but I have never run CoB in a 3-color build. Much like the pain lands, there's enough fixing out there's no need to run a land that always hurts you when used. Even a lot of 5-color builds don't bother with it.



That was just a guess. Still a much better card than tarnished citadel. If any storm decks wanted more cities they can now play them. Who knows, we might wind up enabling some 5 color zoo decks off ziggaraut + cob + mc.

I don't think anyone is saying it replaces cob at all, it's more of would you consider playing cob in a deck if you could play 8.

 
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http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/rc/295

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Battlefield Thaumaturge - 1U
Creature - Human Wizard
Each Instant and Sorcery spell you cast costs {1} less to cast for each creature it targets.
Heroic - Whenever you cast a spell that targets Battlefield Thaumaturge, Battlefield Thaumaturge gains hexproof until end of turn.
2/1


I recommend reading the article accompanying the card. It points to some broken possibilities that may come up. For example, Glimpse the Sun God or Gridlock during declare attackers, targetting EVERYTHING on the battlefield for one mana; triggering ALL heroic creatures AND tapping down every potential blocker.

It also turns any of those cards into a 1 mana counter for any potential burn spells pointed at the Thaumaturge.

Edit: Also, can we give this guy a nickname? I don't like trying to say Thaumaturge.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on April 15, 2014]

 
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I really like Dfitz, we have made good deals in days gone by, but seriously, not hard.


Thaw-ma-tourshe. now pronouce it a little quicker and it will sound better.

No way is that a prooper way to put it out ther but Yaku is still mia, he is the go to guy for intelligent things.

 
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Deicide
 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/rc/295


I recommend reading the article accompanying the card. It points to some broken possibilities that may come up. For example, Glimpse the Sun God or Gridlock during declare attackers, targetting EVERYTHING on the battlefield for one mana; triggering ALL heroic creatures AND tapping down every potential blocker.

It also turns any of those cards into a 1 mana counter for any potential burn spells pointed at the Thaumaturge.

Edit: Also, can we give this guy a nickname? I don't like trying to say Thaumaturge.


In before somebody at FNM rages at somebody for tapping his own creatures after attacking to get free heroic triggers. How dirty.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Deicide

MUD says ouch

 
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"MUD" ?
 
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Mono Blue(U) Devotion, I believe, and not Legacy/Vintage MUD decks.
 
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BG graveyard shenanigans are getting some love with the latest spoilers.

Strength from the Fallen
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Seriously wizard stops printing "Wrath of God" because it is offensive and now we have a card that literally slays a God? Hypocrite R&D much?
 
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I'm loving this set so a lot. I'm wondering about buying a case of this and Theros over time.

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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
That was just a guess. Still a much better card than tarnished citadel. If any storm decks wanted more cities they can now play them. Who knows, we might wind up enabling some 5 color zoo decks off ziggaraut + cob + mc.

I don't think anyone is saying it replaces cob at all, it's more of would you consider playing cob in a deck if you could play 8.


I agreed with this line of thought, though in my EDH decks a land that hurts occasionally (Tarnished Citadel) is preferable to one that hurts constantly (Mana Confluence / City of Brass). Though I've not been able to put this into action as much as I like, CoB is much easier to come across than Tarnished Citadel.

Of course then again I've rediscovered Meteor Crater. Swingy, but fun.

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This set looks to have a lot of potential. And really looks over powered compared to the last 2 in limited play.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by keywacat:
I agreed with this line of thought, though in my EDH decks a land that hurts occasionally (Tarnished Citadel) is preferable to one that hurts constantly (Mana Confluence / City of Brass). Though I've not been able to put this into action as much as I like, CoB is much easier to come across than Tarnished Citadel.

Of course then again I've rediscovered Meteor Crater. Swingy, but fun.


no love for the Grand Coliseum?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Seriously wizard stops printing "Wrath of God" because it is offensive and now we have a card that literally slays a God? Hypocrite R&D much?

The difference being "God" versus "god". Not saying I agree with it, but then again most people would have their eyes pop out of their skull if WotC put "Wrath of Allah" onto a card.

 

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