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Topic: Journey Into Nyx
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daner Member
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posted April 05, 2014 01:08 PM
I'd imagine this is going to start adding cards soon seeing and the pre-release is set for 3 weeks away.....http://www.mtgsalvation.com/spoilers/138-journey-into-nyx
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keywacat Member
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posted April 06, 2014 02:18 AM
So long as we EDH mages get our legendary G/W enchantement enchantress it will be a good set. __________________ The Best Thing About EDH: "It’s like poker night, but nerdier." -David Schreiner
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jbark Member
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posted April 06, 2014 06:50 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/nyx/ For those that like visuals. The 5 gods artwork is all that's spoiled.
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thror Member
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posted April 06, 2014 07:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by jbark:
http://mythicspoiler.com/nyx/ For those that like visuals. The 5 gods artwork is all that's spoiled.
all 2 drops? at least one of these is going to be very good in modern/legacy.... __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."<@Anusien> Pretty sure New Zealanders are the sheep shaggers <KIP_NZ> Anusien: I'm a kiwi and I've shagged a sheep <KIP_NZ> we kiwi's like our sheep
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Boston Member
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posted April 06, 2014 07:18 PM
I would be shocked if they were all two drops. I suspect it's just "printed" like that to show the colors.
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jbark Member
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posted April 06, 2014 07:23 PM
As Boston stated they are only printed to show colors. That's how they were for the last set prior to being spoiled.
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Sovarius Member
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posted April 06, 2014 07:47 PM
They will almost certainly be 4 or 5 cmc like the rest of the pantheon.I am hoping Kruphix is seriously badass. I enjoy playing GWU in EDH. __________________ Want Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, and other vampire females oddities (foreign, foil, crimp, miscut, misprint, sign, test print, alters, artist proofs, etc)Building Ghave EDH, please check my threads. Sales Wants
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted April 06, 2014 09:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by keywacat: So long as we EDH mages get our legendary G/W enchantement enchantress it will be a good set.
It's not GW or legendary, but you got one Why can't we get a good, 4cc black sweeper? Why the <bleep> do they have to cost 6? Edit: RW Aggro is going to be brutal Iroas, God of Victory 2RW Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible As long as your devotion to red and white is less than seven, Iroas isn't a creature. Creatures you control can't be blocked except by two or more creatures. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to attacking creatures you control. 7/4
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Volcanon Member
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posted April 06, 2014 10:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: It's not GW or legendary, but you got oneWhy can't we get a good, 4cc black sweeper? Why the <bleep> do they have to cost 6?
White doesn't even get good 4 mana sweepers anymore. And black only ever got two. Every other black sweeper all the way back to Legends has cost at least 6 or has some stupid drawback. New enchantress is awesome. She even replaces herself.
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Vegas10 Member
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posted April 07, 2014 05:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: It's not GW or legendary, but you got oneWhy can't we get a good, 4cc black sweeper? Why the <bleep> do they have to cost 6? Edit: RW Aggro is going to be brutal Iroas, God of Victory 2RW Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible As long as your devotion to red and white is less than seven, Iroas isn't a creature. Creatures you control can't be blocked except by two or more creatures. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to attacking creatures you control. 7/4
HuhThis def gives RW Boros Creature Deck some potential, this could be back breaking against some decks.
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AGO Member
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posted April 07, 2014 06:02 AM
Starfish Tribal receives some love!
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jbark Member
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posted April 07, 2014 07:48 AM
Another black aggro 2/1. And glorious anthem for any color in an artifact seems decent.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 07, 2014 10:32 AM
Am I reading into it wrong, or is Strive just R&D being lazy with not reusing multikicker?
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jbark Member
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posted April 07, 2014 10:47 AM
If I read correct you need to have a target to pay and play a strive card. Kicker and multi kicker did other abilities that didnt have to target. Don't quote me on that. Also I don't think its another or in addition to so strive can target the same target multiple times.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 07, 2014 10:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by jbark: If I read correct you need to have a target to pay and play a strive card. Kicker and multi kicker did other abilities that didnt have to target. Don't quote me on that. Also I don't think its another or in addition to so strive can target the same target multiple times.
Can you target the same creature twice? Otherwise I don't see it as being different. Guess we'll wait for the official keyword policy. If that's the case I'd prefer WOTC just use the original keyword so we have a smaller rulebook. No need to add unnecessary complexity to the game that doesn't improve gameplay.
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 07, 2014 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Am I reading into it wrong, or is Strive just R&D being lazy with not reusing multikicker?
Overload could have been kicker. Morbid could have been kicker with "0ay this cost only if a creature has been killed" Lots of things could have been kicker or multikicker.
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psrex Member
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posted April 07, 2014 12:13 PM
You can't target the same creature more than once. Here's the text for Ajani's Presence:Ajani's Presence W Instant Stive -- Ajani's Presence costs 2W more to cast for each creature beyond the first. Any number of target creatures each get +1/+1 and gain indestructible until end of turn. The targeting is only done once and not with any copies of the spell or extra effects, though the mana cost will vary depending on the number of targets.
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revenger Member
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posted April 07, 2014 12:15 PM
Strive = overcosted weak kicker. Nuff said.__________________ 28th in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested. Your 2008, 2010 & 2012 Siskel & Ebert award winner! Your Motl runner-up in My Cousin Vinny & Rolling Stone Award!
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 07, 2014 12:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pail42: Overload could have been kicker. Morbid could have been kicker with "0ay this cost only if a creature has been killed"Lots of things could have been kicker or multikicker.
Overload wasn't exactly kicker. It was more like you can do it as a single target or you can target all the things. I'd say that's different enough. Morbid not exactly same either...
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 07, 2014 01:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Overload wasn't exactly kicker. It was more like you can do it as a single target or you can target all the things. I'd say that's different enough. Morbid not exactly same either...
I'll just defer my argument to the head designer:
quote: Mark Rosewater http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr283 It's too big of a mechanic. It covers too much space. It does too much. In short, it's too all-encompassing. What started as a "pay more, get more" mechanic has turned into a "pay extra mana to do anything and everything" mechanic. Almost any mechanic that requires paying extra mana (or extra anything) can get shoehorned into the kicker box.... Whenever we go down the path of a mechanic with an extra cost (and trust me this is a huge vein of design space—R&D jokes that 90% of cards are kicker or split cards) I know I have to listen to a new round of choruses of "that's just kicker." And on some technical level, sure. We often could word things as if they were kicker. But that doesn't accomplish the task set before us. The goal of design is not to make everything look exactly like what has come before. If a mechanic explores new mental space, we want to give it its own keyword.
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Sovarius Member
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posted April 07, 2014 04:31 PM
Pretty sure it has nothing to do with anything, but Athreos the BW god's name is very close to Atheos - a greek word meaning without gods, and of course where Atheism is derived from.
quote: Originally posted by Pail42: I'll just defer my argument to the head designer:
And there's a reason it ended up NOT being kicker. See above. __________________ Want Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, and other vampire females oddities (foreign, foil, crimp, miscut, misprint, sign, test print, alters, artist proofs, etc)Building Ghave EDH, please check my threads. Sales Wants
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted April 07, 2014 09:22 PM
Keranos, God of Storms 3UR Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible As long as your devotion to blue and red is less than seven, Keranos isn't a creature. Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card this way draw a card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way, Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player. 6/5I really want to jam this in Grixis Control. Draw or burn. Love it.
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Dantheman9385 New Member
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posted April 08, 2014 06:15 AM
I think prophet of kruphix will go really well with the celestial ability giving enchant creatures flash and with untapped lands evey turn
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daner Member
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posted April 08, 2014 03:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Keranos, God of Storms 3UR Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible As long as your devotion to blue and red is less than seven, Keranos isn't a creature. Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card this way draw a card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way, Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player. 6/5I really want to jam this in Grixis Control. Draw or burn. Love it.
Hmmmmm....interesting how it's worded. So if you cycle on your opponents turn you can either draw two or draw and get a lightning strike for free?
Might be a legit main-deackable god.
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 08, 2014 03:56 PM
The way it's worded if you cycle on your opponent's turn nothing happens."Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns."
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