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daner
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posted April 05, 2014 01:08 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'd imagine this is going to start adding cards soon seeing and the pre-release is set for 3 weeks away.....

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/spoilers/138-journey-into-nyx

 
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So long as we EDH mages get our legendary G/W enchantement enchantress it will be a good set.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by keywacat on April 06, 2014]

 
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http://mythicspoiler.com/nyx/

For those that like visuals. The 5 gods artwork is all that's spoiled.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by jbark on April 06, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:

http://mythicspoiler.com/nyx/

For those that like visuals. The 5 gods artwork is all that's spoiled.


all 2 drops? at least one of these is going to be very good in modern/legacy....

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Boston
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I would be shocked if they were all two drops. I suspect it's just "printed" like that to show the colors.
 
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As Boston stated they are only printed to show colors. That's how they were for the last set prior to being spoiled.
 
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They will almost certainly be 4 or 5 cmc like the rest of the pantheon.

I am hoping Kruphix is seriously badass. I enjoy playing GWU in EDH.

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quote:
Originally posted by keywacat:
So long as we EDH mages get our legendary G/W enchantement enchantress it will be a good set.

It's not GW or legendary, but you got one

Why can't we get a good, 4cc black sweeper? Why the <bleep> do they have to cost 6?

Edit: RW Aggro is going to be brutal

Iroas, God of Victory
2RW
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to red and white is less
than seven, Iroas isn't a creature.
Creatures you control can't be blocked except by
two or more creatures.
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to
attacking creatures you control.
7/4

[Edited 3 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on April 06, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
It's not GW or legendary, but you got one

Why can't we get a good, 4cc black sweeper? Why the <bleep> do they have to cost 6?


White doesn't even get good 4 mana sweepers anymore. And black only ever got two. Every other black sweeper all the way back to Legends has cost at least 6 or has some stupid drawback.

New enchantress is awesome. She even replaces herself.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
It's not GW or legendary, but you got one

Why can't we get a good, 4cc black sweeper? Why the <bleep> do they have to cost 6?

Edit: RW Aggro is going to be brutal

Iroas, God of Victory
2RW
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to red and white is less
than seven, Iroas isn't a creature.
Creatures you control can't be blocked except by
two or more creatures.
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to
attacking creatures you control.
7/4


HuhThis def gives RW Boros Creature Deck some potential, this could be back breaking against some decks.

 
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Starfish Tribal receives some love!
 
jbark
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Another black aggro 2/1. And glorious anthem for any color in an artifact seems decent.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by jbark on April 07, 2014]
 
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Am I reading into it wrong, or is Strive just R&D being lazy with not reusing multikicker?
 
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If I read correct you need to have a target to pay and play a strive card. Kicker and multi kicker did other abilities that didnt have to target.

Don't quote me on that. Also I don't think its another or in addition to so strive can target the same target multiple times.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
If I read correct you need to have a target to pay and play a strive card. Kicker and multi kicker did other abilities that didnt have to target.

Don't quote me on that. Also I don't think its another or in addition to so strive can target the same target multiple times.


Can you target the same creature twice? Otherwise I don't see it as being different. Guess we'll wait for the official keyword policy. If that's the case I'd prefer WOTC just use the original keyword so we have a smaller rulebook. No need to add unnecessary complexity to the game that doesn't improve gameplay.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Am I reading into it wrong, or is Strive just R&D being lazy with not reusing multikicker?

Overload could have been kicker.
Morbid could have been kicker with "0ay this cost only if a creature has been killed"

Lots of things could have been kicker or multikicker.

 
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You can't target the same creature more than once. Here's the text for Ajani's Presence:

Ajani's Presence W

Instant

Stive -- Ajani's Presence costs 2W more to cast for each creature beyond the first.

Any number of target creatures each get +1/+1 and gain indestructible until end of turn.


The targeting is only done once and not with any copies of the spell or extra effects, though the mana cost will vary depending on the number of targets.

 
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Strive = overcosted weak kicker. Nuff said.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Overload could have been kicker.
Morbid could have been kicker with "0ay this cost only if a creature has been killed"

Lots of things could have been kicker or multikicker.


Overload wasn't exactly kicker. It was more like you can do it as a single target or you can target all the things. I'd say that's different enough. Morbid not exactly same either...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Overload wasn't exactly kicker. It was more like you can do it as a single target or you can target all the things. I'd say that's different enough. Morbid not exactly same either...

I'll just defer my argument to the head designer:

quote:
Mark Rosewater http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr283
It's too big of a mechanic. It covers too much space. It does too much. In short, it's too all-encompassing. What started as a "pay more, get more" mechanic has turned into a "pay extra mana to do anything and everything" mechanic. Almost any mechanic that requires paying extra mana (or extra anything) can get shoehorned into the kicker box.

...

Whenever we go down the path of a mechanic with an extra cost (and trust me this is a huge vein of design spaceóR&D jokes that 90% of cards are kicker or split cards) I know I have to listen to a new round of choruses of "that's just kicker." And on some technical level, sure. We often could word things as if they were kicker. But that doesn't accomplish the task set before us. The goal of design is not to make everything look exactly like what has come before. If a mechanic explores new mental space, we want to give it its own keyword.


 
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Pretty sure it has nothing to do with anything, but Athreos the BW god's name is very close to Atheos - a greek word meaning without gods, and of course where Atheism is derived from.


quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
I'll just defer my argument to the head designer:

And there's a reason it ended up NOT being kicker. See above.

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Keranos, God of Storms
3UR
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue and red is less than
seven, Keranos isn't a creature.
Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns.
Whenever you reveal a land card this way draw a
card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way,
Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
6/5

I really want to jam this in Grixis Control. Draw or burn. Love it.

 
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I think prophet of kruphix will go really well with the celestial ability giving enchant creatures flash and with untapped lands evey turn
 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Keranos, God of Storms
3UR
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue and red is less than
seven, Keranos isn't a creature.
Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns.
Whenever you reveal a land card this way draw a
card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way,
Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
6/5

I really want to jam this in Grixis Control. Draw or burn. Love it.



Hmmmmm....interesting how it's worded. So if you cycle on your opponents turn you can either draw two or draw and get a lightning strike for free?

Might be a legit main-deackable god.

 
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The way it's worded if you cycle on your opponent's turn nothing happens.

"Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns."

 

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