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Topic: Is Legacy Dead?
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Deathbydrawing
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posted June 06, 2014 02:04 PM
      
I heard that SCG isn't going to be holding Legacy anymore starting next year. Is this going to cause it to become like Vintage and have virtually no players left? Finally, is this going to cause a drop in some of the cards' prices?
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mm1983
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posted June 06, 2014 02:15 PM
 
Its been rumored that they would replace legacy with modern but I don't know when.
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Volcanon
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posted June 06, 2014 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Deathbydrawing:
I heard that SCG isn't going to be holding Legacy anymore starting next year. Is this going to cause it to become like Vintage and have virtually no players left? Finally, is this going to cause a drop in some of the cards' prices?
Is this confirmed? Maybe time to dump legacy staples.
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Vegas10
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posted June 06, 2014 03:25 PM
Do you have a link to where someone prominent at SCG said this, because last I saw they reaffirmed their commitment to legacy.
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oneofchaos
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posted June 06, 2014 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Deathbydrawing:
I heard that SCG isn't going to be holding Legacy anymore starting next year. Is this going to cause it to become like Vintage and have virtually no players left? Finally, is this going to cause a drop in some of the cards' prices?
Or SCG is going to drive up the modern prices for a year and then swing back to legacy after picking up all the duals and what not everyone sold off.
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hilikuS
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posted June 09, 2014 08:02 AM
I feel like SCG could support all 3 formats at each stop.
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oneofchaos
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posted June 09, 2014 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I feel like SCG could support all 3 formats at each stop.
Why not just alternate the weekends between standard/limited/legacy/modern. You've got standard/limited, standard/modern, standard/legacy, legacy/modern, legacy/limited modern/limited. That's literally a month and a half of different event weekends.
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Nitelite
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posted June 09, 2014 08:15 PM
I hope people start selling their legacy playables. That would be great.
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marvinc023
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posted June 10, 2014 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by Nitelite:
I hope people start selling their legacy playables. That would be great.
Agreed... I'd love to buy lots more at big discounts LOL
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Soldier Boi
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posted June 10, 2014 08:51 AM
SCG is not stopping legacy. The talk about modern was for the places that did 2 days of standard or did standard/limited. Obviously they didn't make the change since every even it standard/legacy. Now that every just about every legacy event 250+ people, I don't see them making the switch to modern at all.
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Megadeus
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posted June 10, 2014 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Why not just alternate the weekends between standard/limited/legacy/modern. You've got standard/limited, standard/modern, standard/legacy, legacy/modern, legacy/limited modern/limited.That's literally a month and a half of different event weekends.
This would be miserable. Myself only being a legacy player, if they came to ATL and Legacy wasn't on the agenda due to this "roulette" being off, I simply wouldn't attend. And I'm sure there are MANY players that would do the same.
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oneofchaos
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posted June 10, 2014 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by Megadeus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Why not just alternate the weekends between standard/limited/legacy/modern. You've got standard/limited, standard/modern, standard/legacy, legacy/modern, legacy/limited modern/limited.That's literally a month and a half of different event weekends.
This would be miserable. Myself only being a legacy player, if they came to ATL and Legacy wasn't on the agenda due to this "roulette" being off, I simply wouldn't attend. And I'm sure there are MANY players that would do the same. [/QUOTE]To be fair I think standard/limited suck so yea, I can easily see that point. Still, no reason to kill the golden goose while you get the eggs right?
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coolio
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posted June 10, 2014 10:03 PM
where are you people hearing these unsubstantiated rumors?© __________________
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-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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oneofchaos
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posted June 11, 2014 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by coolio:
where are you people hearing these unsubstantiated rumors?©
I have no clue where this one came from, but I'm guessing Salvation?
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Animosity
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posted June 11, 2014 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by coolio:
where are you people hearing these unsubstantiated rumors?©
Some people just pull something out their ass and go with it. The only way they would do modern is replace a std with it on a double std weekend in a location where there is a low legacy turn out normally. Even that is a stretch. I don't see them Getting rid of legacy.
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headumpire
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posted June 11, 2014 08:40 AM
They WILL eventually get rid of Legacy(or at least start hosting more Modern events then legacy). While they do control legacy prices, they have to realize, the MONEY is in modern. At this point it is probably 4x the player base and getting just as expensive. My thought is within 3 years they will heavily slow down legacy events
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WeedIan
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posted June 11, 2014 09:58 PM
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stab107
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posted June 12, 2014 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by headumpire:
They WILL eventually get rid of Legacy(or at least start hosting more Modern events then legacy). While they do control legacy prices, they have to realize, the MONEY is in modern. At this point it is probably 4x the player base and getting just as expensive. My thought is within 3 years they will heavily slow down legacy events
I don't see why SCG wouldn't do both. Supporting both formats is good for both the game and for business.
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oneofchaos
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posted June 12, 2014 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Magic is dead, prices too expense.
Magic has been dead for years man, I don't know what you are talking about.
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headumpire
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posted June 12, 2014 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by stab107:
I don't see why SCG wouldn't do both. Supporting both formats is good for both the game and for business.
I would agree with you... but then why didnt they do that with vintage? Thanks!
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alexisetsfire
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posted June 12, 2014 08:19 AM
Cedric Phillips talked about this on a podcast not to long ago. Said they'd like to hold all 3 formats, but logistically doesn't make sense as the weekend is only 2 days long.I don't see them getting out of legacy until attendance massively drops.... they make too much doing it and the format would be severely crippled by the lack of SCG support.
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iccarus
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posted June 12, 2014 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by headumpire:
I would agree with you... but then why didnt they do that with vintage? Thanks!
If I recall correctly, Vintage attendance was just horrible when SCG stopped running events. Even with the proxy-permissive environment, people were just not willing to play anymore. __________________
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coolio
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posted June 18, 2014 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by headumpire:
They WILL eventually get rid of Legacy(or at least start hosting more Modern events then legacy).
no, they wont.. of all the people I talk to at scg, noone has said they're getting rid of legacy in the foreseeable future.. you do know, at the invi this past wkend, they had 450 players on sunday I dont know where you get these assumptions from, but you're blatantly wrong. nevermind the attendance scg is hoping to achieve in november for the legacy gp in jersey... and they might manage it too.. and that'll blow your mind when it happens © __________________
Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.
-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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Animosity
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posted June 18, 2014 07:02 AM
This was posted somewhere else. So yeah they are going to double dip on sunday. Seems good for them since they will get those who came for STD to stay for Sunday assuming more STD players have modern decks vs legacy decks.
SCG just announced that they are bringing Modern tournaments to their Open Weekends. These "Premier IQs" will start at 10am on Sunday, and the prize pool for Modern is exactly half that of the Standard or Legacy Open. As a consequence, the Top 8 of the Standard Open will now start at 8am (so no more quarterfinals on Saturdays).
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stab107
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posted June 18, 2014 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by headumpire:
I would agree with you... but then why didnt they do that with vintage? Thanks!
Vintage is already a marginalized format due to issues of card availability. Legacy has enough steam and enough availability to maintain present numbers. Growth is likely a challenge but maintenance/sustainability is important and plausible.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on June 18, 2014]
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