1,100 Alpha Rare
4,500 Alpha Uncommon
16,000 Alpha Common
85,500 Alpha Land (per picture)

3,200 Beta Rare
13,500 Beta Uncommon
48,000 Beta Common
171,500 Beta Land (per picture)

5,000 International Collector's Set
10,000 Collector's Set

4,300 Limited Rare (Alpha+Beta)
18,000 Limited Uncommon (Alpha+Beta)
64,000 Limited Common (Alpha+Beta)
228,500 Limited Land (Alpha+Beta) (per picture)

18,500 Unlimited Rare
68,000 Unlimited Uncommon
244,500 Unlimited Common
872,500 Unlimited Land (per picture)

289,000 Revised Rare
1,012,000 Revised Uncommon
3,657,000 Revised Common
12,969,500 Revised Land (per picture)

I don't believe there are any known numbers regarding Summer. It's speculated to be "larger than you think," but that's a pretty broad term.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Don't forget FBB and FWB too.

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Summer magic fact from wikipedia : The Summer Magic print run of Revised Edition were printed in the summer of 1994.[11] This print run intended to fix some of the errors with Revised, including the washed-out color. As it turned out, the Summer Magic run had problems of its own. The colors were considered too dark and the artist credited for Plateau stayed uncorrected as well as the artist credited for Serendib Efreet, although the Efreet had received its original color and art again. Also a famous new misprint occurred with the card Hurricane; the so-called "blue Hurricane" is one of the rarest and most sought-after cards in the entirety of Magic because of its misprint with a blue border.[12] On the secondary market it sells for thousands of dollars. The print run was recalled and destroyed; however, about 40 booster boxes that were shipped to England and Tennessee survived. No more than 11 or 12 of each rare exists.[13]

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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
Based on what is said in this thread and the assumption the AVERAGE legacy deck runs 6 duals (some 8, some none) enough duals were printed to support about 52,000 legacy players.
If you assume 20% are unavailable for 1 reason or another that means there are enough duals to support about 41,000-42,000 legacy players.

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That assumes everyone wants the same dual land (e.g. Volcanic Island). Which is unlikely given that you're assuming 6 dual lands per deck!

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Originally posted by lordofthepit23:
That assumes everyone wants the same dual land (e.g. Volcanic Island). Which is unlikely given that you're assuming 6 dual lands per deck!

Even assuming that some dual lands are pretty "unplayable", the number should be about 5x higher. And I would argue that the average Legacy deck actually runs significantly fewer than 6 duals.

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Ya, my comment was definitely simplifying things. Some duals not being played actually decreases the number though - not increases b/c those shouldn't be considered in the available pool. The average legacy deck running less than 6 duals on average would then raise the number back up. That's why I was comfortable with my 'average'.

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Originally posted by thror:
i still think the math is wrong. there are ~312k of EACH dual. 3.12 million total. if you say 20% are 'unavailable', that leaves us 2.5 million duals, at 6 per deck. That's 415k total decks.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Jeez... so like the total number of duals that exist based on these numbers is probably worth like half a billion dollars? That's nuts.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Known fact : There are 0 Alpha Volcanic Islands. It was forgotten about because they decided to use the original art of Volcanic Island for Birds of Paradise.

Summer magic fact from wikipedia : The Summer Magic print run of Revised Edition were printed in the summer of 1994.[11] This print run intended to fix some of the errors with Revised, including the washed-out color. As it turned out, the Summer Magic run had problems of its own. The colors were considered too dark and the artist credited for Plateau stayed uncorrected as well as the artist credited for Serendib Efreet, although the Efreet had received its original color and art again. Also a famous new misprint occurred with the card Hurricane; the so-called "blue Hurricane" is one of the rarest and most sought-after cards in the entirety of Magic because of its misprint with a blue border.[12] On the secondary market it sells for thousands of dollars. The print run was recalled and destroyed; however, about 40 booster boxes that were shipped to England and Tennessee survived. No more than 11 or 12 of each rare exists.[13]

This print run is known primarily for its extremely scarce and valuable cards and packs. Cards are distinguished by dark coloring and a 1994 copyright date displayed at the bottom, along with the artist credit. Booster packs look identical to normal Revised Edition packs, and as such, telling them apart is impossible without opening them. No starter decks were made.

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i find that "known" fact completely dubious and full of crap.. volcanic island, cop: black, and the third art for each basic were left off the print run by accident.. as for the birds pic being "originally intended for volcanic" is not something I've ever heard of.. where the heck are you getting this from? also, the wikipedia as for "cited" source on summer? are you kidding? the collector community has basically acknowledged there are 10 complete sets in private hands.. and there's been a bunch of stuff that's been moving about, way higher number than the 11-12 supposed of each rare... nevermind there's been one particular dealer who came upon a fairly large lot recently and has been piecing it out

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i find that "known" fact completely dubious and full of crap.. volcanic island, cop: black, and the third art for each basic were left off the print run by accident.. as for the birds pic being "originally intended for volcanic" is not something I've ever heard of.. where the heck are you getting this from? also, the wikipedia as for "cited" source on summer? are you kidding? the collector community has basically acknowledged there are 10 complete sets in private hands.. and there's been a bunch of stuff that's been moving about, way higher number than the 11-12 supposed of each rare... nevermind there's been one particular dealer who came upon a fairly large lot recently and has been piecing it out

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This is true. BoP was created to utilize the original dual land artwork. I'm sorry, since WOTC garbaged up their site I cannot find the original article but this is fairly common knowledge. I remember reading an article about it 10ish years ago on the WOTC site myself.

As far as Summer magic goes, there is a lot of disagreement on those numbers. It doesn't appear you have chimed in here
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/026172.html

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Card of the Day - March, 2002
The Birds have been one of the staples of the game since it began, but they were created as an afterthought. Their art was originally supposed to be for Tropical Island, but the bird was too prominent. So Richard Garfield created a card just for the art, and it ended up being the most versatile mana-producing creature ever.

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http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/cotd/0302

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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:

Have sources to backup your Summer comments?

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sure, lemme go edit wikipedia and cite that

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Originally posted by coolio:
sure, lemme go edit wikipedia and cite that

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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
Hey, I'm still marking this day down in history that I was right about BoP :-P

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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
Hey, I'm still marking this day down in history that I was right about BoP :-P

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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Volcanic Island is not Tropical Island

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Originally posted by mm1983:
This would lead to there being 100 of each rare

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For the purposes of calculating how many duals exist, erring on the side of caution and saying 100 of each in Edgar is reasonable and doesn't change the numbers much. Also because of how easily these can be identified by an average player, none of them will ever end up in a deck.

Does anyone know ANY information on print runs of ANY FBB at all? Even extrapolating from just the info off of one country would give some sort of estimate.