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Topic: What's Up about the "Eternal Format"?
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dwiz
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posted February 15, 2016 09:58 AM
        
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Originally posted by iccarus:
I just meant the likely "sky is falling" reactions I will be seeing online for a bit.I'm honestly hoping this drives up interest and demand for other format staples. I've been close to selling off my legacy stuff for awhile, since I can't justify keeping cards that valuable around when I get to use them maybe a half a dozen times a year at this point. I'm a little bummed that force and wasteland may take a price hit, but I just have to keep reminding myself that I paid so much less than what they are worth.
Goyf surely didn't take a hit when it was reprinted. I guess we'll see. It may get people in the format and they'll want the original versions of some of these cards. At least the duals will go back up.
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aethertech
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posted February 15, 2016 10:08 AM
All I hope for, from EMA, is a drop in EDH prices.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by aethertech on February 15, 2016]
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dfitzg88
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posted February 15, 2016 10:13 AM
ay... better stop trading for expensive cube cards...#somanybadtrades
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iccarus
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posted February 15, 2016 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by aethertech:
All I hope for, from EMA, is a drop in EDH prices.
That would be very nice. There are tons of cards for the format that I would love to have, but just can't justify the prices. Sadly, some of my biggest wants are likely to be left out still due to reserved list restrictions. What are some likely inclusions? SDT, non-modern Goblins stuff (warchief, gempalm, etc), Shardless Agent, Hymn to Tourach, Counterbalance, Flusterstorm...probably a long list of playables.
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crusader_ff3
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posted February 15, 2016 10:45 AM
This will fail entirely as a format if they dont make a new, fetchable dual land or restrict duals to a limited number.
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LandDestroyer
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posted February 15, 2016 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by crusader_ff3:
This will fail entirely as a format if they dont make a new, fetchable dual land or restrict duals to a limited number.
legacy will be better off than it was yesterday. more access to cards will drive demand for others. then we just have to see if scg or someone steps in to run events. that is what will decide where the format goes
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dwiz
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posted February 15, 2016 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by crusader_ff3:
This will fail entirely as a format if they dont make a new, fetchable dual land or restrict duals to a limited number.
It's not a new format. Some people on salvation are thinking that as well.
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aethertech
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posted February 15, 2016 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
ay... better stop trading for expensive cube cards...#somanybadtrades
#MTGCareer
#Tapestry
#BadFinancialDecisions
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slurpee
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posted February 15, 2016 01:10 PM
Could see a huge increase in duals if interest goes like it does with Modern
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thror
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posted February 15, 2016 02:12 PM
im loving the city of brass wasteland art. depending on what else gets new art, i might have to buy some of this product.
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James_Hetfield2
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posted February 15, 2016 02:15 PM
Japanese Foil Forces and Wastelands. Make some people happy.
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DJSmurfy
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posted February 15, 2016 02:41 PM
After months of waiting, now that a Force of Will reprint has FINALLY BEEN ANNOUNCED WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU WOTC, someone sends me a playset of them on Pucatrade.Still happy to get them. At least I'll have originals. I don't really expect a huge dip in price since the reprint is Mythic, so those that have them won't take a huge loss, but it does suck for people who still want them. Also, that new art is completely rad. I love it. Too bad the new frame is dog ****. Edit: Also, yay Legacy Merfolk!
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Sovarius
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posted February 15, 2016 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
legacy will be better off than it was yesterday. more access to cards will drive demand for others. then we just have to see if scg or someone steps in to run events. that is what will decide where the format goes
You mean you don't already know that SCG cut Legacy support and sold Forces at $75 because they knew in advance this was happening and would again support Legacy in a year's time? Cutting support got non-negligible amounts of people to move out of duals/reserve stuff for Modern, so they could pick up on the cheap as a vendor.
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chaos021
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posted February 15, 2016 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
You mean you don't already know that SCG cut Legacy support and sold Forces at $75 because they knew in advance this was happening and would again support Legacy in a year's time?Cutting support got non-negligible amounts of people to move out of duals/reserve stuff for Modern, so they could pick up on the cheap as a vendor.
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harbingerofthevoid
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posted February 15, 2016 04:06 PM
Hasbro creates Magic of the Coast as a subsidiary company. New owners take all MotC holdings and contracts. Retool them and boom, reserved list fixed.
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choco man
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posted February 15, 2016 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by thror:
im loving the city of brass wasteland art. depending on what else gets new art, i might have to buy some of this product.
the art can be whatever they want it to be or whatever players want it to be, but the border...
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Pail42
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posted February 15, 2016 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
Hasbro creates Magic of the Coast as a subsidiary company. New owners take all MotC holdings and contracts. Retool them and boom, reserved list fixed.
Reserve list is a non-binding policy statement. they've already revised it three times. (1) stopped adding new sets (2) REMOVED CARDS (3) removed foil exception. You're getting way to complicated.
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Vegas10
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posted February 15, 2016 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
I just meant the likely "sky is falling" reactions I will be seeing online for a bit.I'm honestly hoping this drives up interest and demand for other format staples. I've been close to selling off my legacy stuff for awhile, since I can't justify keeping cards that valuable around when I get to use them maybe a half a dozen times a year at this point. I'm a little bummed that force and wasteland may take a price hit, but I just have to keep reminding myself that I paid so much less than what they are worth.
Ah I get ya, also seems to be some odd thoughts that this means a new format, which I don't think is very likely.
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fluffycow
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posted February 16, 2016 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Ah I get ya, also seems to be some odd thoughts that this means a new format, which I don't think is very likely.
I was hoping for a new format too, duals are just too damaging for legacy. If they ban or restrict duals then legacy becomes very accessible because now they can reprint most of the big stuff
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mm1983
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posted February 16, 2016 09:11 AM
I think printing legendary duals would be the closest they can get to reprinting the real thing without dropping the reserved list. These would be great for any commander deck as well since you can only play 1 copy of any card other than basic land to begin with. As far as legacy goes they might get abused a bit with the legendary rule.
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aethertech
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posted February 16, 2016 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by mm1983:
I think printing legendary duals would be the closest they can get to reprinting the real thing without dropping the reserved list. These would be great for any commander deck as well since you can only play 1 copy of any card other than basic land to begin with. As far as legacy goes they might get abused a bit with the legendary rule.
But, can't Vesuva or Thespian's Stage legendary duals 
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Pail42
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posted February 17, 2016 08:05 PM
You can abuse legendary duals (a bit) with the delve mechanic. Modern infect would probably run 4x.
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Sovarius
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posted February 18, 2016 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by chaos021:
LOL. If they did that, the pitchfork mafia would be all over it.
Well, some are. But we're not talking about a mob big enough to do anything about it even if so, anyway. quote:
Originally posted by Vegas10:
Ah I get ya, also seems to be some odd thoughts that this means a new format, which I don't think is very likely.
If it were to happen, i don't think that they would pull the trigger this year anyway. quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
I was hoping for a new format too, duals are just too damaging for legacy. If they ban or restrict duals then legacy becomes very accessible because now they can reprint most of the big stuff
Legacy doesn't use a restricted list, and banning a card based on price is about the dumbest thing i can imagine.
They'd be more likely to print a new type of dual that is better than a shockland in some way.quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
I think printing legendary duals would be the closest they can get to reprinting the real thing without dropping the reserved list. These would be great for any commander deck as well since you can only play 1 copy of any card other than basic land to begin with. As far as legacy goes they might get abused a bit with the legendary rule.
Those would be functional reprints according to the reserve list, so this is pretty much a 'no'. The same goes for effectively reprinting them as 'snow' lands.Making Legendary lands with no actual special abilities seems ridiculous, too. Legendary lands are quite few and far in between, and are ridiculobonkers with two copies on the field. A lot of people would be unhappy with it, i think. They want their brand to be trusted, and people trust the Reserve List isn't going to be deliberately dicked with.
I know i'm crazy saying this, but what's so bad about a few shocks in legacy? I mean if the format boomed and there weren't really enough duals being passed around, you'd be at a disadvantage to those who had real duals but on par with everyone who also does not (which could presumably increase as well).
Stuff like Burn and Merfolk port to legacy from Modern very well, too. I kind of wish more people would move into Legacy and just suck up the 2 or 4 damage damage they need to deal to themselves with shocks, so i can play locally.
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AGO
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posted February 18, 2016 05:13 PM
The hilarious part is people think this set is to get people to play Legacy. WOTC does not give a **** about you! This is a huge cash cow for them. They are tossing a bone to EDH players and Cubes. People who want cool cards they can now get in foil and Japanese. THe reserve list is here to stay. They will make a new format before they get rid of that list.
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Pail42
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posted February 18, 2016 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I know i'm crazy saying this, but what's so bad about a few shocks in legacy? I mean if the format boomed and there weren't really enough duals being passed around, you'd be at a disadvantage to those who had real duals but on par with everyone who also does not (which could presumably increase as well).
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I kind of wish more people would move into Legacy and just suck up the 2 or 4 damage damage they need to deal to themselves with shocks, so i can play locally.
It sounds crazy because it is. You can win a hand of blackjack by hitting on a hard 20, but you're an idiot if you do it. Suggesting that people happily throw their entry fees away to the people who have a clear advantage is silly.
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