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Topic: parents of magic
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 02, 2001 12:23 PM
     
I hope you take this seriously, thank you.In my brief MTG Playing Stage(2 Years), I have had doubts about Magic coming from my parents since the beggining, My dad doesnt see it as wholesome. My Parents seem to think that we do drugs and satanic things at our local gameshop. We dont, but My dad still believes that the right thing to do is block me out, so I am no longer allowed to visit the gameshop, My friends think magic is some sorta queer pokemon trip, so I cant play against them. my only link to Playing MTG was that shop as I live to far away from any DCI sanctions and have no way to get to them. My dad has created a world in Which he believes I am safe, He does not understand that i am safer at my gameshop than i am at school which is the only place in my life where I have been exposed to drugs and violence, instead of creating a haven for me, he has created a spiral into depression in which I find myself alone with no faces to talk to about the thing that esclates me above people, I am one of the best Players in my town, top 3 or 4 out of 50 or 60. My apprentice crashed months ago and I still have no way to fix the system. I find that I am missing a huge part of myself, a part which goes un-replaced as MTG is one of my few skills aside from skiing. It isn't the end of the world but I find people who i thought to be true friends pushing me out of their life, I get picked on at school as I dont fight back violently because my parents have 0 tolerance for trouble of any kind, I got punished because I made the B honor roll, not A, as summer rolls around I find myself emersed in hades as I know I wont make the A honor roll yet again and no MTG to deal with my pressure, MTG though my dad thinks otherwise has kept me away from drugs as it is my drug, I find myself turning to the few friends I have left. My sister has been a big help as she actually talks to me also my good friend dan(Marshall Mathers on MOTL). My parents havent encouraged dreams of mine as I have told my dad that I wanted to be a Pro, basketball, football and all that, he told me that there was 0.1 chance that I would ever do that so I gave up. I have no place to run other than a handful of friends anf the faceless people of MOTL and I am finding that Im being pulled away from all of you by my parents, I have no reason to stay but no where to go and no way to get there, these, are the parents of magic. __________________
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 02, 2001 12:25 PM
btw, if you think that this post is fiction, it is not, it is fact out of my own life.__________________
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BlackStorm
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posted June 02, 2001 12:45 PM
 
Well, My parents, or should I say parent because my dad lives with my mom and I but he never talks to me and we stay out of each others lives, don't care what I do as long as I'm not doing drugs or having sex. So, I have taken up Magic and now I'm doing pretty well. I used to be a "wild child" but since I started playing Magic, I have calmed down a lot. I personaly can't wait till I get my license so I can go to things like Friday Night Magic and other tournies. I am sorry to hear that your parents aren't as understanding as mine. I, on the other hand, was on the B honor and now I haven't been on any honor roll's in like 3 years. Next year I'll be on the B honor roll for my own satisfaction. __________________
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The Magic Dude
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posted June 02, 2001 12:50 PM
Damn, really sorry to hear about all this. Though I can't really be of good use since I've never experienced anything like this - my parents have been always been great to me and let me do whatever I want - but I'll try anyway.
Firstly, and most importantly: always keep thinking positive. Whatever happens, don't let it get at you that much. Look on the bright side of things, and try to do other stuff besides MTG; go out and do some cool stuff with your friends.
Secondly, I'd have a good talk with your parents. You might not think of it like this right now, but it can really make a huge difference. If you talk to them seriously and force them to do the same, they will - at some point - understand that MTG isn't "bad" (bring a couple of "MTG friends" home and introduce them to your parents) and that they shouldn't do anything about it, nor worry about it in any way. If this strategy doesn't work, I would try to contact some other family members and see if you can convince them to have a serious talk with your parents - they WILL understand you, believe me.You just have to have the patience... Good luck, and talk to you soon! Youri. __________________
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Selvaxri
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posted June 02, 2001 01:47 PM
my parents, they would give a rat's *** whether or not if i play magic. to them, it's just something that shuts me up and out of their hair. my father is too damn lazy to do anything, when i ask him to take me to the cardshop or any tournaments, he just says "I'll think about it." which obviously mean no; in fact recently, he tried to teach me how to drive (i'm 17 and am neglected) and i've had no driving experience. so when i do something incorrectly, he starts yelling in my ear about what i should be doing which causes me to more incorrect driving practices. so in frustration he pulls me out of the car and drives home giving me this lecture about what i'm gonna do after i graduate. he is the focal point of my latest story idea, The father i never had
so i'm stuck with having my mom drive me to the cardshop, but then my little sister wants to do her running around. and since she's spoiled, she can buy anything she wants, and i'm stuck with two packs of cards.
my life sucks, but hey, i'm dealing with it.
as for school; no one dares to pick on me, why? I'm 6'6" and one of my magic playing friends is very militant (needless to say he could blow up the school if he wanted to, but doesn't want to because who'd care?!). besides, only 15 people in the school of 1500 know about magic.
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spike85
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posted June 02, 2001 04:39 PM
It seems that I am doing very well here in Greece. My mother has only one problem with magic: $$ and believe me, I am drafting an average 3-4 times a month, plus any pre-releases, local tourneys etc and i also spend quite a lot on Saturday's Nights with my friends in bars etc. My father doesn't like it, mostly because of FNM, coz i'm a little late ( I leave at around 5.00 pm and come back at 11-12 ). The only bad thing is that here in Greece, there are no BIG events, apart Regionals/Nationals and maybe a PTQ once a year. Also I have to wait 2 more years to get a driving licence, since here you get it when you're 18.  As Youri said, always try to see the positive aspect of each situation. Hope things turn out well!__________________
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British Kavu
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posted June 02, 2001 07:49 PM
i can relate to this
my dad hates magic, in fact he hates anything that doesnt involve education, my mom is very similar. Altho, i am kinda in a better situation because every 2 months or so they let me go to the cardshop, however my play is getting worse with each day i dont practice.__________________
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NukeMoose
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posted June 02, 2001 09:37 PM
 
Reading this makes me feel real lucky. My dad drives me to the local shop every Friday and Saturday, gives me money to play in tournies, drives me to States and other local tournaments, supports something that makes me happy and even gave me 100 bucks after I won my first couple FNM's. My mom on the other hand...
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The Magic Dude
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posted June 03, 2001 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by NukeMoose:
Reading this makes me feel real lucky. My dad drives me to the local shop every Friday and Saturday, gives me money to play in tournies, drives me to States and other local tournaments, supports something that makes me happy and even gave me 100 bucks after I won my first couple FNM's.
OK...I think you could better not have said that...anyway, that's really lucky, more than most of us are, I think. I'm happy as is though.  __________________
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WebHUNTER
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posted June 03, 2001 07:27 AM
Why dont you show him this article.__________________
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Excalaber2
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posted June 03, 2001 07:57 AM
The one thing I had trouble doing was talking to my dad. I would talk to my friends about it but, the only thing is, THAT IT IS ALOT HARDER TO TALK FACE TO FACE THEN BEHIND THERE BACK!! every time I had a game plan, but I never went with it, I would stray off. I was a out cast in Public School. No Friends, Picked on every day. Not ONE day went by did I draw blood, But I never fougth back. About two months ago I had it with one person, the kept walking all over me, because They new I would not fight back, But little did he know that was all over. *KA-POW* knocked to the ground in one punch, man I thougth I had killed him becasue he did not move for five min. This happened when I stopped playing magic for about three months. ( another timeI was forced out of magic. As I started to learn I played at a shop in the bastment, "The Magic Room" no one there would play with me. Out of the ten people there, I played with no one, Becasue my deck was to cheap. It was a deck that you killed your own to kill others, It was not all that good, I would sac my guy to give another -1/-1 There were the only cards that I had. So because there were the only cards that I had, and on one would play me, I could no longer play. I onced played a game with them, Six of them desided to team me, This new p[layer, I killed them all, And I had a great time kicken the butts! Then the one guy droped kicked me out of my chair. (This remindes me of the one time that some one opened the door to the magic room and chucked a cue ball down stairs. I cliped my shoulder and then droped to the floor, Me as I was 11 just took a cue ball full force to the shoulder, was thinking about waht might have happened if I was 1 inch back, It would have hit one of them In the face. That would have hurt. But my should was not moving I could not move my arm, Slowly I put my hand on it, and started to move it. The feeling of life came back to it. back to the story.) I started playing magic 1-2 years after that. I started playing again after that shop (Micoplay) closed for good. I started plaing at a new shop that has opened up. Again a little while ago they did not want me to play becasue by this time, I had tons of cards, Forks,Serras,Dules. So I stoped playing becasue I would not change my deck so they can win a game. I would aways say, "Build a better deck" then I would get the finger ppinted at me. So I stoped playing but,not trading. And YA I can say magic is my drug that helps me cope with Bass holes.__________________
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beeble13
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posted June 03, 2001 10:32 AM
A couple of years ago I was in a similar situation. The only way (in my experience) top deal with this is to explain to your father (gently!) that Magic is not a satanic cult, that in fact it takes up a lot of free time so you don't do drugs ans stuff, and that most of all IT IS HIGHLY EDUCATIONAL!!! Anyone who says otherwise doesn't take it seriously. It takes a high degree of strategy, probabilities, memory, imagination, etc. to make a good deck. Plus financial responcibility 
If he still thinks the card shop is trouble, offer to take him down one evening so he cna see for himself. I told my dad that he could spot-check me any time I played. he showed up twice, saw me playing, having fun and drinking a sprite, and has never shown up since.
I think parents have a lot of trust issues, most of them unreasonable, but still. I think if you try to ease his fears and he STILL won't give up, it may be wise to ask another adult to have a chat with him. But try this - it worked for me.
Good luck.
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 03, 2001 11:09 AM
I got the memory thing down, i know all my Parents Credit card #'s by heart.  __________________
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NukeMoose
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posted June 03, 2001 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by The Magic Dude:
OK...I think you could better not have said that...anyway, that's really lucky, more than most of us are, I think. I'm happy as is though.
Did you not read the "My mom on the other hand..." That kinda balances it out. But yes, I know that I am very lucky and am very grateful of the kind of dad I have. For the ones that don't have as understanding parent(s) then like said before, talk to them. I don't see how they can complain if you show them that not only it isn't bad, it helps you. __________________
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The Magic Dude
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posted June 03, 2001 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by NukeMoose:
For the ones that don't have as understanding parent(s) then like said before, talk to them. I don't see how they can complain if you show them that not only it isn't bad, it helps you.
I totally agree. This is the solution. __________________
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 03, 2001 01:58 PM
I do. He still thinks I shouldnt waste my time, he would rather I studied so Im like, study what dad? and he thinks I should study science, truthfully, I hate science, math, reading, I already know what the teacher is teaching us, I get a's on ALL my tests, I just dont feel like doing the work seeing as how its like,retyping a paper, over and over. ya know, I cant really do anything, just wait til he chills out about it I guess. thanx for the suggestions though. __________________
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posted June 03, 2001 02:55 PM
I feel your pain.My father sucks the big one. Always too strict, abuse, always had to study. I'd just stare at the pages and daydream. My mom didn't do anything. I was into Magic since '96 and my family was poor so I had to scrounge up whatever I could and sneak them into the house, since we weren't allowed to spend money, had to save it. When I got kicked out of my house I got a job and started to collect. I got money to do this now but the only problem is the bills and such. I had to make my way through live, no freebies here. Trade hard, buy whenever possible, and on occasion give freebies out so that people will want to trade with me more. My most recent freebie was Buffness4, ask him how nice I am to fellow traders. I spend $$$ on Magic, not on drugs. That is better, isn't it? It isn't doing anything destructive in nature to me, and I am happy that I have a hobby outside of my mundane, busy life. People look at me and think I'm crazy, collecting a card game, but it's what I like to do. No one locally plays here and shops are far away. Besides, it sucks to be the only girl you know that plays Magic within 100 miles of you. Oh well, at least I can find solitude online!
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posted June 03, 2001 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by mageta,the lion_00:
he thinks I should study science, truthfully, I hate science, math, reading, I already know what the teacher is teaching us, I get a's on ALL my tests, I just dont feel like doing the work seeing as how its like,retyping a paper, over and over.
Tell him you want to be taught by your teachers, not told ;P ... Thats how it is in school for me. I get F's on homework, then I get A's on tests... Nothing is being taught to me, except that my time is not worth anything to others. I had the same problem you have, with my dad. I plainly told him that if he saw something wrong in what I did, (that wasn't bad) and wanted me to stop playing Magic, then he would have to stop doing something that he enjoyed doing also... Find the thing that your dad most likes to do, and try to tell him that. ~ BTW, My dad shure as hell didn't want to stop fishing ~ __________________
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posted June 03, 2001 04:33 PM
I to be quite honest though this post would die in 5 minutes, I didnt know so many people had trouble with their parents involving MtG. I dont feel as bad anymore, but I still cant go 2 the shop __________________
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magic_man31
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posted June 03, 2001 04:53 PM
My parents are the same way. The only time I'm allowed to play is in the summer pretty much and I still never have time(I'm on traveling soccer, baseball, and basketball teams) and sometimes in the winter if it's snowing out or we've had alot of snow. Also another deciding factor is my grades which are average(C's, B's, and some A's)but my dad expects me to be a straight A student(even though he wasn't and he admits that). Recently my grades haven't been to good so he took them away but I stole em' back. One good thing is that my dad's a baseball scout(does a lot of traveling) and is gone 6 months of the year and my mom is a little more leanient(sp?) so that helps a little. And my mom even said she would take me to Gen Con(but I doubt it) if I got good grades so I'm workin real hard(NOT).__________________
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 03, 2001 04:57 PM
Man, They should bounce me up a grade or two, then maybe id actually listen __________________
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 04, 2001 01:37 PM
K, I dont know about all of you but I am done venting about this, i cant change my dads mind and thats that I guess. hope that maybe some of you realized how good you have it, __________________
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posted June 04, 2001 10:07 PM
I'm with you guys on some aspects of this issue. While my parents don't forbid me from playing, they see the way the other "cool, popular" kids are in school and they think I should be hanging out with them. I made a decision that instead of going out with my friends every night and drinking underage, I could be doing better things with my time. While my parents don't agree with me and ask me all the time "Why aren't you out partying like you used to?" it could be worse. For anyone who has ever read "Carrie", be Stephen King, you know what I'm talking about. Anyway, my sympathies and condolences go out to Mageta and the rest of you guys who are having trouble with your folks. Just remember, it could be worse.-Jason =w=
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SickOfItAll
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posted June 05, 2001 09:45 PM
My parents have never really cared what I do; I consider myself very lucky for that fact. Mageta, take it from me: if you want to, you can convince your dad this isn't a bad thing. Tell him you want to make a deal with him, improve your grades, he lets you play Magic, as long as the goal is reasonable (ala, not 100 in every subject or no Magic)I've earned my parent's trust, I did a long time ago, that's why I can do basically whatever I want (I'm 17 now, but this has been the situation since I was 13 or so). They rarely buy me cards (did for Christmas since that was all I asked for), but outside of that...they basically just ignore it. Mageta...show your dad that article and the responses, at least try. Trying *never* hurts. Try and explain to him, try the spot-checking thing whoever it was suggested that, ask him if there's ANYTHING you can do to get him to understand it isn't evil. Show him all the websites magazines about the game, whatever, it won't hurt. Good luck to those of you who are having problems... Sicko __________________
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mageta,the lion_00
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posted June 06, 2001 01:33 PM
Thanx sicko, I guess ive been having trouble with my dad since my B-Day, my grades came that day and I got grounded, I had no Party, No presents, I'll try though.__________________
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