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Goth401
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posted November 26, 2001 06:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goth401 Click Here to Email Goth401 Send a private message to Goth401 Click to send Goth401 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I slipped 3 odessey booster packs into my pocket... now that is'nt too uncommon.
But i hadn't payed for it, and this is the part where i get flamed for stealing, but i am not the only one at fault, and i believe
no one else is innocent of stealing, save jesus.
You can deduct that i got caught, but i consider the person who observed my acts as my redeemer. The shopkeeper asked me to pay for it, and i did. I hold no grudge, i feel now that he was very discreet, very kind. after FNM, as i was walking home, i realised much, and here ore the major points.

1. I am a bad thief
2. God loves me
3. Stealing booster packs are indeed quite silly.

Anyone could Scoff at me stating the obvious at #1 and 3, but i am learning, and i hope you keep on reading and understanding.

now, the thing i hope to accomplish with this article is to confess to the MTG World and beyond that i was a decietful adolescent who didn't want to buy magic cards, so stole them. I feel better saying what's been gnawing on the depths of my heart, and i wish to address the list i have made.
1. I am, i put them in my pocket in front of the man, and i feel nothing but gratitude now.

2. He does, he loves everyone, no matter if you killed a man, or sinned far worse than stealing. And now i know that god was directing the shopkeeper(His name is not important, the actions that night were)
and he gave me a lenient punishment, one w/ great consequences, but nothing but greatness can come of his plan.

3. Breaching this thought, a booster pack is only 3.29, easily purchaseable.
But what is it to you if your SMI was'nt payed for? it WILL give you a sense of guiltiness, a sense i could not bear any longer.(I actually did get an SMI, but it was traded) there are many other cards that were not payed for, and i seek to pay them back.

Not much to say now, i cannot buy cards from the place ever again, and i believe that i cannot even come back, but that is the price i am to pay. If you are actually the shopkeeper, (You know who you are, god bless you) please e-mail me, Ricecube401@hotmail.com, i seek clarification on the point that i am banned from the store.

It isn't worth it, stealing, but you learn lessons from everything, and god has taught me that i have much more to learn. Please don't be skeptical, for i feel clean, in soul and spirit, and with all of my heart.

 
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posted November 27, 2001 01:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Trnothr Click Here to Email Trnothr Send a private message to Trnothr Click to send Trnothr an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
As an advice: keep theological stuff away from MOTL. It's not looked upon favourably.

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posted November 27, 2001 08:39 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for FyreStar Click Here to Email FyreStar Send a private message to FyreStar Click to send FyreStar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Sir, you are consummately evil, not in your act, but in the philosophy you have adopted to excuse your act.

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Goth401
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posted December 03, 2001 01:54 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goth401 Click Here to Email Goth401 Send a private message to Goth401 Click to send Goth401 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
excuse? it is hardly an excuse, mind you, just something i have learned from this experience, and truly, we are all evil, are we not?

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Magic1264
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posted December 03, 2001 04:04 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Magic1264 Click Here to Email Magic1264 Send a private message to Magic1264 Click to send Magic1264 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well, i don't think stealing magic cards is too silly. I have stolen the following things from a local, unamed card shop:

LIKE I'D TELL YOU, but is was over 1000 dollars worth of stuff.

I have not been caught on any occasion. Remember, it is only stealing if you get caught, if your not, it is called the five-fingered discount.

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HanSolo6385
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posted December 03, 2001 04:22 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for HanSolo6385 Send a private message to HanSolo6385 Click to send HanSolo6385 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Magic1264:

I have not been caught on any occasion. Remember, it is only stealing if you get caught, if your not, it is called the five-fingered discount.



If you admit to stealing, it's stealing you idiot. After *supposedly* stealing $1000 worth of cards, it's amazing you can live with yourself.

Since stealing coincides majoritively with ripping via the internet, remind me to never trade with you.

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da-odd-templar
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posted December 05, 2001 02:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for da-odd-templar Click Here to Email da-odd-templar Send a private message to da-odd-templar Click to send da-odd-templar an Instant MessageVisit da-odd-templar's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Grr...your email!!! You stole the name of the leader of the Rice Collective! How DARE YOU!

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Glowing goo
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posted December 05, 2001 04:54 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Glowing goo Click Here to Email Glowing goo Send a private message to Glowing goo Click to send Glowing goo an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well, I too am happy that you got caught, and were made to pay for them, and that you feel better now, but I am going to say a few things.
First off, I am glad that you have resolved to never do it again. Of course, stealing packs of cards is a very silly thing to do. But the thing that bothers me is that you don't seem to feel very guilty. Honestly, you should, because feeling overtrodden with guilt is the only way to ensure that you will never do it again (of course, getting caught on your first time is pretty bad too, but you still seemed to be awful quick to forgive yourself).
I hope that now you have your morals and sense about you, and I believe you must find some way to repay society (since theft is, in fact, one of the major factors in the obnoxious inflation of this great nation's economy ).
I could write a whole essay on what I think about your theological excuse (#2 I do believe) and how overused it is, but typically those sorts of discussions result in almost everybody getting karma-smacks and bad feelings.
I will, however, say that yes, everybody has some evil urges, and some people act on them. But ponder the fact that the strength and goodness of character are judged by how well you can withhold them.
Hoping you are feeling quite guilty

~G

P.S. Magic1264: You are quite the sick person. At least Goth feels bad about what he has done. As a matter of fact (as we were just going over in my psych class), one of the biggest judging factors in classing someone as a psychopath is that they feel no remorse for their crimes. Thus, helping this article to beautifully illustrate the difference between a normal person (Goth) and a psychopath (you!). Remind me not to trade with you.

~G


[Edited 2 times, lastly by Glowing goo on December 05, 2001]

 
masttime1
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posted December 05, 2001 04:56 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for masttime1 Click Here to Email masttime1 Click to send masttime1 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
what a strange article
 
Goth401
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posted December 05, 2001 04:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goth401 Click Here to Email Goth401 Click to send Goth401 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Da odd templar- i came up w/ this name some time ago, 6 years, and i really like it. my apologies. rice collective? whats that? i mightv'e posted there...

response to my article- yes, guilt does play a major factor in my life, and the cards youv'e stolen, you get the burning feeling that you must trade them away.

Ive hesitated to put this article down for several weeks, but ive resolved to do so also. Ill be hoping you change your mind too magic1264...

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Magic1264
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posted December 08, 2001 09:18 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Magic1264 Click Here to Email Magic1264 Send a private message to Magic1264 Click to send Magic1264 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Mind you this was over a period of two years.

Secondly, I have never ripped anyone off online. Just for your knowledge.

When trading, if you say you were trying to get a couple rages, and the other person wants a couple crap rares for them, what do you do? Exactly

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Boogers
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posted December 08, 2001 09:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Boogers Click Here to Email Boogers Send a private message to Boogers Click to send Boogers an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
That's not stealing. You need to get your priorities straight. You're on a TRADING league telling people how you steal things and how you believe it's ok if you don't get caught. That's a great lesson in reversed logic....

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Often Lost
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posted December 10, 2001 07:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Often Lost Send a private message to Often Lost Click to send Often Lost an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well, my only real playtesting parters outside of my local card store are my friends at school. Yet these kids are the kind that steal. They have stole more than 30 dollars (at least) worth of cards. Is it okay to trade with them?

PS, sorry this isnt a response, its just a question i need ansewerd

 
raptorcardz
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posted December 10, 2001 07:26 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for raptorcardz Click Here to Email raptorcardz Send a private message to raptorcardz Click to send raptorcardz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Thieves should kiss my butt. They have no self-respect or dignity. Why can't you spend a mere $3.29? Also, how do you feel when you've stolen from another person..Ahh! Whats this world coming to!?

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implode
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posted December 11, 2001 06:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for implode Click Here to Email implode Send a private message to implode Click to send implode an Instant MessageVisit implode's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View implode's Have/Want ListView implode's Have/Want List
goth41, I really hate you--you are the reason boosters go for retail instead of being lowered in price. Thieves make consumers pay more for everything. That is why if I see somone stealing, I will alert the store. I'm not even touching the ethics of stealing--obviously thats a much larger area.
 
Glowing goo
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posted December 11, 2001 07:54 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Glowing goo Click Here to Email Glowing goo Send a private message to Glowing goo Click to send Glowing goo an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Exactly!
Thieves drive up prices, so now they are 3.29 instead of 3.00 like they were. On the whole of things, ANYBODY who steals ANYTHING is contributing to the inflation of the economy. Stores get stuff stolen, they have to raise their prices. Prices go up, cost of living goes up. Cost of living goest up, employee wages go up. Over, and over, and over, and over again. Out of many factors, theft is probably one of the largest.
Feeling any more guilty?
GOOD!

~G

 
Goth401
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posted December 12, 2001 12:44 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goth401 Click Here to Email Goth401 Send a private message to Goth401 Click to send Goth401 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Good for you implode.
My brother gave me that same lecture, and reminders are always nice.

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Glowing goo
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posted December 13, 2001 04:32 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Glowing goo Click Here to Email Glowing goo Send a private message to Glowing goo Click to send Glowing goo an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hey buddy, you were the one who decided you were gonna announce to the whole m:tg world that you lifted some booster packs. You didn't really expect a warm welcome did you?

~G

 
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posted December 13, 2001 03:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Researcher Click Here to Email Wild Researcher Send a private message to Wild Researcher Click to send Wild Researcher an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well aren't we learning a great lesson, why doesn't everyone go and steal 1000$ of cards? Now ask your self this magic, after saying that who the hell would want to trade with you? Why are you on this sight bragging and smiling about how you stole cards? What a miser. I think someone should report you as a bad trader and use that statement as evidence,

Play fair, and BUY cards.

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masttime1
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posted December 13, 2001 04:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for masttime1 Click Here to Email masttime1 Click to send masttime1 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i agree, thieves should be reprimanded by more than banning from the store, i dunno what but im sure the store owner will lyk, if u can get back in there someday

[Edited 1 times, lastly by masttime1 on January 15, 2002]
 
Goaswerfraiejen
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posted December 14, 2001 05:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Goaswerfraiejen Click Here to Email Goaswerfraiejen Send a private message to Goaswerfraiejen Click to send Goaswerfraiejen an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Magic1264:
When trading, if you say you were trying to get a couple rages, and the other person wants a couple crap rares for them, what do you do? Exactly


You inform the foolish mortal of his error, if indeed it is an error. Because, it might not be an error. There are plenty of eccentric people like me here on MOTL. But, you first make sure the other party knows what s/he is doing.

Honestly.

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posted December 19, 2001 08:22 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for georgecpop Send a private message to georgecpop Click to send georgecpop an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hi!

At least you learned your lessong about no more stealing. I guess it's hard to get it if you've never been caught, like someone else that just confessed to stealing over $1000 of magic merchandise.

If you feel guilty then it's up to you to decide what to do about it, but sometimes it's hard just to stop, unless it's your first time, otherwise the more you do it the harder it will be to stop.

Ask yourself it you really needed the boosters or if they're worth stealing, or if you really needed a Shadowmage, i mean seriously, it is ONLY a game.

Thanks

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posted January 01, 2002 09:09 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for boelo Click Here to Email boelo Send a private message to boelo Click to send boelo an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i can't believe anyone would steal cards. You have to think that they are just pieces of cardboard with a picture and words on them. If you try getting money from a person that doesn't play card games, they'll laugh in your face.

Also, well, stealing $1000 worth of cards is something that you should be ashamed of. The card dealers are trying to do honest business and put food on their tables while you try and get free stuff and not work hard for it. Nothing in life is essentially free, except values.

Also, the reason you steal cards is to get money. Why do people need money? for food, water, and shelter. That is all people NEED, everything else is what people WANT. Anyways, i am just glad everyone who has stolen has confessed, and the person that stole $1000 in cards should report themselves to the police.

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posted January 15, 2002 05:20 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Chorax Click Here to Email Chorax Send a private message to Chorax Click to send Chorax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
People steal food, because they are hungry. They steal money, because they are desperate. Im not saying any of this is justifiable but if you however are stupid enough to steal magic cards, then you are sick. And if you don't feel remorse for the poor shop keeper that tries to make an honest living to feed his family, than seek psychiatric help.

This reply is very serious. This is only a game. How much does a gaming card mean to you???

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Chorax on January 15, 2002]

 
ice_pick25
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posted January 31, 2002 08:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for ice_pick25 Click Here to Email ice_pick25 Send a private message to ice_pick25 Click to send ice_pick25 an Instant MessageVisit ice_pick25's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Yo Goth, i dont blame you one bit.

"Magic is cardboard crack" as we once heard it.

Wanting Call of the Herds and Shadowmages and Rages is something that every magic player dreams of. People please dont BS me when you say that you have never wanted to steal M:TG cards before.

Goth, You probably were not thinking at that moment, you made a mistake dude, and if i were that card store owner i would give you a second chance any day.

 

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