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Topic: Mafia 9 : Extended Shadows
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AlmasterGM Member
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posted January 26, 2010 04:36 PM
That's the game, then.I'm going to call Bernek/OGB as the scumteam.
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Liq Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:08 PM
Voting Results :- AlmasterGM - OGB
- Bernek77 - OGB
- Jazaray - AlmasterGM
- nderdog - AlmasterGM
- OGB - AlmasterGM
- thror - AlmasterGM
GG Cits.Mafia feel free to reveal yourselves. Penalties : LA3 will be serving a 2 game suspension. MVP Cit : Zakman86 (for an impressive round 1/2) MVP Mafia : nderdog (for directing cits in the final rounds) Edit : About that random delay for which I took the blame in PfS for. The Mafia was waiting for me to provide a replacement for Bugger and I was waiting on the Mafia to give me a name before I was going to replace Bugger. Once we both knew why the other didn't make a move, Bugger was choosen as the Mafia Kill. Edit : I plan to start the next game of Mafia when at least 15 names are on the GD Players List. Half way there so far. __________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Liq on January 26, 2010]
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XplicitR Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:14 PM
MVP Mafia should definitely be AGM.
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Gawain Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:16 PM
LA3 is serving a two game suspension? Uhh....you sure you don't mean WCFmo? I don't see that LA3 did anything wrong :/
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Liq Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gawain: LA3 is serving a two game suspension? Uhh....you sure you don't mean WCFmo? I don't see that LA3 did anything wrong :/
He requested a 2 game suspension at time of replacement. I didn't want to mention it as it may have affected the players consideration of Zakman. I've already announced WCFmo's suspension so that will occur as well. __________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
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Gawain Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Liq: He requested a 2 game suspension at time of replacement. I didn't want to mention it as it may have affected the players consideration of Zakman.I've already announced WCFmo's suspension so that will occur as well.
Ah, well I guess that explains it then. @Thror: I'm going to refrain from commenting on the game until the Mafia have revealed themselves, but don't worry, I've got some things to say :P
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nderdog Moderator
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posted January 26, 2010 08:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlmasterGM: That's the game, then.I'm going to call Bernek/OGB as the scumteam.
All I'll say is that you were half right. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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XplicitR Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:40 PM
Bernek messaged PD right after he was killed and told him. I believe MM did the same thing after he got you to replace him. I was kind of angry that MM would switch out like that when he was mafia but PD assured me that he had a good reason behind it which MM would reveal if he felt like it. Well played guys...well except for AGM. After the mafia inquiries were qualmed in the zombie club, the rest of the conversation became about the way that AGM was acting and how close Jaz was.
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fwybwed Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:47 PM
I think of the LA3 replacement was a bad as he turned out Cit....Then MM gets replaced it makes it hard to go on anything. The replacment factor should be adressed...imo
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WCFmo Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:47 PM
Quick note - Jaz, didn't mean to make you mad and as you were still in game I couldn't PM you. So, sorry.FYI, I was mafia . GG my other mates, I'll go into more detail when they decide to come out. Though I think someone just posted who they were. Again, apologies for anyone I riled up, that wasn't my intention.
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Liq Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by XplicitR: Bernek messaged PD right after he was killed and told him. I believe MM did the same thing after he got you to replace him. I was kind of angry that MM would switch out like that when he was mafia but PD assured me that he had a good reason behind it which MM would reveal if he felt like it. Well played guys
If this is true, then some more suspensions need to be handed out.I'll agree that there was a good reason for MM's replacement though I didn't like it per se. quote: Originally posted by fwybwed: I think of the LA3 replacement was a bad as he turned out Cit....Then MM gets replaced it makes it hard to go on anything. The replacment factor should be adressed...imo
The reason behind LA3's replacement were twofold. One I didn't like the flow of the current game. And LA3 requested it. As a replacement Zakman worked beyond what I originally expected. Completely took me by surprise. The fact that you guys hung the Cop immediately after was regrettable. __________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Liq on January 26, 2010]
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nderdog Moderator
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posted January 26, 2010 08:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Liq: Please do not discuss your roles with anyone, live, dead or otherwise as to prevent accidents.
Just pointing this one out in light of recent conversation. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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WCFmo Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by nderdog: Just pointing this one out in light of recent conversation.
Question - the mafia to mafia PMs are ok right? That's all I did in regard to the game.
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Liq Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Question - the mafia to mafia PMs are ok right? That's all I did in regard to the game.
Its expected within this game. __________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
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nderdog Moderator
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posted January 26, 2010 08:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Question - the mafia to mafia PMs are ok right? That's all I did in regard to the game.
Yeah, that's fine. It's the Mafia that were still alive or being replaced that revealed their roles that are a problem. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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thror Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:54 PM
Yes, mafia to mafia is ok. That and the votes to Liq are the ONLY allowed PMS.__________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."
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WCFmo Member
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posted January 26, 2010 08:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Liq: Its expected within this game.
Sorry, I wasn't being clear, you get lynched you can still PM other mafia members right? I didn't see anything in the rules about that.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by WCFmo on January 26, 2010]
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nderdog Moderator
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posted January 26, 2010 08:56 PM
As far as replacements go, ideally, they'd be avoided at all costs, but as someone who's run a lot of these games, at times there's simply no way around it. When people have unexpected issues and things come up for someone, a replacement is preferable to someone who is alive, but not actually playing. I really don't know the reason for the much higher than usual number of people being replaced the past few games, though.__________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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nderdog Moderator
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posted January 26, 2010 08:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Sorry, I wasn't being clear, you get lynched you can still PM other mafia members right? I didn't see anything in the rules about that.
That would be a question for Liq. I personally don't really see any good reason for it. The dead should not be involved in any way in the ongoing decisions and gameplay of the Mafia. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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Liq Member
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posted January 26, 2010 09:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Sorry, I wasn't being clear, you get lynched you can still PM other mafia members right? I didn't see anything in the rules about that.
Personally I don't see anything bad about a goodbye PM to your fellow Mafia members. Active participation in a game you're no longer playing shouldn't occur. __________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
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AlmasterGM Member
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posted January 26, 2010 09:05 PM
Good game, mafia. XpllicitR, you are ridiculous. Like I said in the other thread before the posts were (rightfully) deleted, this is a democratic game. Yes, I was wrong on many counts, but I couldn't have thrown the game without lots of help. By saying the loss was entirely my fault, all you are saying is that I am a really, really powerful orator capable of convincing the masses to follow me. I suppose that's a compliment. If the Zombie club is a Gmail string or some other easily forwarded mechanism, I'd be really interested to see it. I don't care if it's all nastiness on me - I'd be legitimately interested.
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nderdog Moderator
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posted January 26, 2010 09:12 PM
I do want to thank all of the people who cleared me early and claimed I really couldn't possibly be Mafia. Not having the suspicion made it really easy for me to go all "pro-town" while still ensuring that the votes would stay mostly on Cits. I had a hard time balancing between keeping suspicion off of Bernek and keeping him named just in case he did get offed so it wouldn't look much like I was protecting him, but the OGB/AGM/Bernek triangle really was extremely useful in that respect. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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Gawain Member
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posted January 26, 2010 09:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlmasterGM: By saying the loss was entirely my fault, all you are saying is that I am a really, really powerful orator capable of convincing the masses to follow me. I suppose that's a compliment.
That is one way of looking at it. Another is that you are the elephant in the room. You're just so damned belligerent that you are impossible to ignore. If the Mafia were ninjas, you would be their smoke bomb. Seriously, you don't have to take anyone else's word for it. Just ask the Mafia how they felt about your presence in the game. Edit: Or read Nder's above post :P
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AlmasterGM Member
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posted January 26, 2010 09:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gawain: That is one way of looking at it. Another is that you are the elephant in the room. You're just so damned belligerent that you are impossible to ignore. If the Mafia were ninjas, you would be their smoke bomb. Seriously, you don't have to take anyone else's word for it. Just ask the Mafia how they felt about your presence in the game. Edit: Or read Nder's above post :P
Hmmm...I guess I'm wondering if that's actually belligerence or if it's just me in general. This "AGM smoke bomb" issue has been a problem for almost a year now. A while back, it was "AGM is a tricksy lie machine, he won't con us this time." Now it's "AGM is belligerent." Honestly, I don't TRY to be annoying - people just seem to draw that conclusion. I guess I'll have to try really hard to be more reserved.
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WCFmo Member
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posted January 26, 2010 09:36 PM
@ Liq - thank you for clarifying.@ AGM, I never really discussed with anyone, but I didn't think you played a terrible game (though my opinion my be slighted by the fact I've never played before). IMHO, bandwagoning seems to happen a lot in this game (one player having suspicion of me in the first round swung 3 votes against me - i.e. PD, even though he had SEVEN other suspects) and I'm not sure if that's the way to go. Seems like your being bandwagon'd here (that's meta right?). PD - Thanks for making our jobs easier . I knew something was up, so I tried to push for Gawain when you had your page long conversation - not sure if anyone bought you were the cop though, ask the others. Favorite quotes of the game - "I can change man" (paraphrased from Gawain). Buggers "Holy censored" saying he'd change his vote to me. Random note - My first suggestion for the NK was to kill the person that spoke last on the thread (which would have been Gawain). Zakman - I find it odd you were gonna do the same thing as me :P (in the same round) Re: the changing votes - surprised no one tried to latch on the fact that I changed knowingly when I only had 3 votes against because I was wanting to cast some suspicion on one of those people who voted Zakman first round. About second round of voting - tried to cast suspicion on everyone - Jaz, OGB, Monty, Bugger, and whoever came in late to vote on me while securing my cohorts. Also, I wasn't drunk when I was posting that, as someone had suggested that. Overall, I wasn't trying to play the "noob card" as I had a million other questions I wanted to ask but I didn't - such as WIFOM, which I googled. Jaz - sorry again, I wanted to make sure I posted around Bugger but he didn't show up for awhile that's the only reason I made that last post. See ya all in a couple of games folks (if you'll have me)
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