"7. Abuse of the reference system will not be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to, giving away references, offering cards for references, swapping refs with your friends, and trading refs without actually trading cards. Remember, if you didn't exchange through the mail, you can’t get a reference for it."

The spirit of this rule is to prevent abuse of the system. Selling MTGO tix was not a thing a few years ago. So how does that play into this, since things are exchanged and trust is still involved, with sending payment and sending tix?

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Not that it's going to matter for either of us (I bought tix from coinmagic45) in the grand scheme of refs, but I did make a nice sized transactions with him. Successfully. That seems like a good enough reason for a ref, again for the sake of argument.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
I agree with you as well. Maybe it's time to consider a change? Maybe post a thread in 'Suggestions' and see where it goes.

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What one could do is debate whether or not to put MTGO tix on your Have/Want list and accept it as trade stuff.

i.e. 'My Fetchland for your 15 tix'.

I mean, we can trade digital cards on here too. Perhaps tix can be as well, it sounds fair to me. But what you have to watch out for is that the refsystem doesn't get used for stuff not related to Magic.

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
The thing is, if you trade digital stuff, there's close to no risks. The cards cannot get lost or stolen since there's no mail involved. New members would trade like crazy on MTGO to get a bunch of refs and then rip people off by mail easily.

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
The thing is, if you trade digital stuff, there's close to no risks. The cards cannot get lost or stolen since there's no mail involved. New members would trade like crazy on MTGO to get a bunch of refs and then rip people off by mail easily.

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If you trade digital for digital, yes, there is close to no risks involved. However, like others have stated, what happens when one party trades cash or real cards for online stuff? There is plenty of risk involved still with that. What if you pay, and they don't ever meet you for the tix exchange? Or what if you send out cards for tix, and the cards don't arrive? Or simply reverse those scenarios. You give tix first for cash or cards, then you get screwed. As long as the trad isn't digital objects for digital objects....it should be considered a ref-able(is that even a word?) transaction.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
Maybe post a thread in 'Suggestions' and see where it goes.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
I agree with you as well. Maybe it's time to consider a change? Maybe post a thread in 'Suggestions' and see where it goes.

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Done