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Topic: Mox Pearl. looking for expert opinions
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s14sh3r
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posted October 04, 2012 07:12 AM
        
This is my friend's Mox Pearl. He is worried this may not be authentic, and I am just looking for some second opinions from people who deal with these often. He is concerned since there seems to be differences compared to his other moxes.http://i.imgur.com/wvHMJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nLegI.jpg
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jjflipped
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posted October 04, 2012 07:22 AM
Same story here, but an alpha wheel.http://imageshack.us/a/img231/4471/wheelfront.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img145/9360/wheelback.jpg
[Edited 1 times, lastly by jjflipped on October 04, 2012]
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sdematt
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posted October 04, 2012 08:34 AM
The corners and colouring on the Pearl look really bad. I'll have to take a better look when I'm at home.JJ, the Wheel looks legit. They all have the print mark on the top border. -Matt
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Godswill
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posted October 04, 2012 09:29 AM
Coloring seems way off. I don't know if it's quality of the picture or that's how the card really looks, if latter, the dots are way off for it to be legit.
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dhamil3
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posted October 04, 2012 04:00 PM
go get a good magnifying glass and look at the side of the card. see a blue strip? it's genuine. i dont like the idea of the 'bend test'
would you bend a honus wagner to test for authenticity? dont think so.
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airwalk
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posted October 04, 2012 04:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Godswill:
, the dots are way off for it to be legit.
Maybe my eyes are getting bad in my old age but the dots look fine on the Pearl. After seeing more pictures, I would say the Pearl is very likely fake, the printing pattern looks good to me from the scan but the difference between it and the other Moxes when compared under the light makes it very suspect. Definitly bring all those points up to the seller, best of luck. quote:
Originally posted by dhamil3:
go get a good magnifying glass and look at the side of the card. see a blue strip? it's genuine. i dont like the idea of the 'bend test'
would you bend a honus wagner to test for authenticity? dont think so.
Ah dont mention the bend test or else we will just have 10 people saying how it's a good test and you just need to 'do it right'.
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TheGreat1
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posted October 05, 2012 10:12 AM
What does the light test yield?
Also a good investment might be a 10x-20x jeweler's loupe (these can be bought for like 7-8 bucks). Take another UNL artifact (preferably a low-end common that you are certain is real) and compare the print pattern.
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coasterdude84
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posted October 05, 2012 11:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dhamil3:
i dont like the idea of the 'bend test'
would you bend a honus wagner to test for authenticity? dont think so.
I'm not a fan of the bend test either, but it works to detect rebacked CE cards, but since it's Unlimited, I doubt very much it's a reback (by the same logic, no one is rebacking T206 Wagners either).
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ermabwed
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posted October 05, 2012 01:09 PM
The bend test detects such a very narrow range of counterfeits it isn't worth doing, and it does stress the card. It takes about 120-150 correctly performed bend tests before a new card will be stressed to failure, but some damage does occur (based on 3 tests involving Ice Age-era cards).CE cards can be identified visually without a bend test. You should not be buying black bordered power without having looked at CE enough to be familiar with this. However, white-bordered cards can also be rebacked (genuine cards rebacked to hide wear). This is better detected by the light test though. Take a real card and a light bright enough that you can see it shining through the back. Rebacks will show an unevenness in light transmittance due to uneven distribution of the glue. Rebacks will also be detected by careful visual inspection, such as with a loupe, of the edges, looking for that blue line mentioned above. If the line is missing in places, or duplicated, you're looking at pieces of two different cards or a counterfeit on inferior cardstock. __________________
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jordanicus
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posted October 12, 2012 07:43 PM
This thread was posted on my behalf before I registered, and I just wanted to thank everyone who replied and gave advice/input. I wanted to follow up and say that I was able to resolve the issue with the seller and received a refund. When I received the card, I immediately thought it was off, and in comparing it to other (authentic) cards noticed significant differences--some of which were addressed by members in this thread, and additional ones as demonstrated in these photos: it was extremely transparent when compared to other Moxes:
http://i.imgur.com/Pbvnx.jpg the print pattern, though "correct", was too distinct and visible to the naked eye (on right), and under magnification, the black border on the card back showed traces of colored dots rather than being a single color offset print:
http://i.imgur.com/wq0jp.jpg I'm providing this information to hopefully educate others who may have questions regarding authenticity. While I definitely felt something was up with this card, and I'm sure many people in this forum would've easily spotted it for a fake, I think it would have fooled many people, particularly because it was embedded in a card lot. It was by observing the overwhelming and cumulative strikes against it that allowed me to get the case resolved. Thank you all for your help!
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