An Island was auctioned more recently (4 months maybe?), but I don't recall the price exactly. I think he was asking $800 on here and ended up getting closer to $500 on Ebay. I was interested at the time, but I only went to 350 myself.

It's possible that there's a premium for the first known Mountain, but more likely it's proportionately less than the Island. There are definitely some people out there who just want an example of the misprint. Personally I don't care much if my misstamped Guru is an Island, Plains or whatever; it's just an example of the process.

i think the mountain should be around 400-450$ considering the price proportionality if i were to buy. i have not seen a mountain yet but i know the existance of swamps.

and of the islands not so many are known, it is basically a lot of maybe 2, maximum 3 changing owners from time to time (and all will find me as their final owner ^^ )

A severely miscut Brainstorm, for example, is worth close to fifty times as much as a similarly miscut unplayable card, even though as a misprint collector I regard them as the same error. The pool of players is just so much larger that it hardly makes sense to include them in the same discussion.

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Originally posted by ermabwed:
It's true that several Islands are known, but it isn't possible for this error to happen to less than a sheet, so there must be at least 24 Mountains in existence somewhere.

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quite curious where you came up with that 24 number

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Originally posted by coolio:
quite curious where you came up with that 24 number

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presumably, minimum number of cards on a sheet (121) divided by 5, ergo, 24 of each basic on a misstamped sheet.

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Originally posted by thror:
presumably, minimum number of cards on a sheet (121) divided by 5, ergo, 24 of each basic on a misstamped sheet.

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you are assuming these were printed on normal sized sheets... my info says they werent

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Originally posted by coolio:
you are assuming these were printed on normal sized sheets... my info says they werent

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ive no idea what size sheet they were printed on, but that's where he got 24 from.

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Originally posted by thror:
ive no idea what size sheet they were printed on, but that's where he got 24 from.

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Originally posted by Vermilion:
Coolio is correct. Guru's were not printed on normal size sheets they were actually printed in two 5x5 sheets. One sheet has 2 rows of Plains under that 2 rows of Island and 5 Swamps. On the second sheet it starts with 5 Swamps then goes to 10 Mountains and then 10 Forests. So the assumption that 24 Islands exist is completely wrong.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
but with islands and mountains being on separate sheets, that would confirm the existence of the other 3 types of lands having the misprint. I don't ever recall seeing a plains or swamp missprint, but then again I also don't ever recall looking for them either.

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This would not confirm anything if the Islands and Mountains are in the same row of the sheet and the stamping tool was made for the row it would make perfect sense.

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Originally posted by Vermilion:
This would not confirm anything if the Islands and Mountains are in the same row of the sheet and the stamping tool was made for the row it would make perfect sense.

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if the stamping tool has only one row, why should it have turned around 180° twice on exactly the same spot?

if the tool would be a 5x5 pattern it also would not make sense that one row was turned upside down at some point.

either way, when it is a 1x5 tool it is very unlikely that it hit only one row of islands and then all of a sudden one row of mountains because it that happened to the islands first and it was noticed, the employees would take more care in cleaning and replugging in the tool so it doesnt happen again. so the conclusion is that more than these 2 rows have been misstamped before it was noticed.
i dont know how fast this process went but according to this theory there must exist at least 5 islands, 5 mountains and 10 swamps if the plains/islands/swamp sheet came first and was stamped top-down.

if such a low quantity exists, how could the stuff have been packed and leaked into the public then? initially a bigger quantity must have been produced before it was noticed, with the main part being destroyed and a small amount leaking into the guru program.

with the tool being 5x5 it would not change a lot in the quantity that leaked into public but it would confirm that all types of basics exist.

i just can not believe that there are only 5 islands and 5 mountains out there, the number must be higher.

i have heard of swamps by the way, so my theory that all types exist should be more consistent. but to be clear, i have never seen the swamp in person or on a scan.

if vermilions theory is right that "it doesnt indicate anything" that all types exist, it would strictly have to be a 5x5 tool with 5 rows that were cleaned separately and one was inserted the wrong way or both sheets were printed at the same time with a big 10x1 tool.

if its a 5x5 tool with one line inserted wrong it would indicate that more than one row of these 2 types exists since upon a quick inspection all types would seem correct since it is only one odd row somewhere in between and chance increases to leak into the guru program.

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Originally posted by toploader:
if the stamping tool has only one row, why should it have turned around 180° twice on exactly the same spot?

if the tool would be a 5x5 pattern it also would not make sense that one row was turned upside down at some point.

either way, when it is a 1x5 tool it is very unlikely that it hit only one row of islands and then all of a sudden one row of mountains because it that happened to the islands first and it was noticed, the employees would take more care in cleaning and replugging in the tool so it doesnt happen again. so the conclusion is that more than these 2 rows have been misstamped before it was noticed.
i dont know how fast this process went but according to this theory there must exist at least 5 islands, 5 mountains and 10 swamps if the plains/islands/swamp sheet came first and was stamped top-down.

if such a low quantity exists, how could the stuff have been packed and leaked into the public then? initially a bigger quantity must have been produced before it was noticed, with the main part being destroyed and a small amount leaking into the guru program.

with the tool being 5x5 it would not change a lot in the quantity that leaked into public but it would confirm that all types of basics exist.

i just can not believe that there are only 5 islands and 5 mountains out there, the number must be higher.

i have heard of swamps by the way, so my theory that all types exist should be more consistent. but to be clear, i have never seen the swamp in person or on a scan.

if vermilions theory is right that "it doesnt indicate anything" that all types exist, it would strictly have to be a 5x5 tool with 5 rows that were cleaned separately and one was inserted the wrong way or both sheets were printed at the same time with a big 10x1 tool.

if its a 5x5 tool with one line inserted wrong it would indicate that more than one row of these 2 types exists since upon a quick inspection all types would seem correct since it is only one odd row somewhere in between and chance increases to leak into the guru program.

in the end i think we will never know how many are out there. at the moment i only know the location of 2 copies of an island, but havent asked around that much so far.

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I'm not exactly sure where your coming up with Swamps all of a sudden since they are on both sheets.